Mr. Wrong Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 While I want you guys to enjoy and discuss this video what I really want is for Stefan to do another video where he dissects a TYT host. Why this one in particular? Well because this will probably make the TYT viewership and TYT themselves the angriest and thus make the most noise to our benefit: "Stefan Molyneux the Anarchist Libtard Strikes Again in Support of Men's Rights!" It's this very form of enraged word-of-mouthery that brought Karen onto TYT in the first place no? I say why not? It's only going to take, what, an hour to respond to Cenk and without any prep? Better yet try and analyze his behavior given that he LOSES IT on her. There is more to say about Cenk's reactions than his arguments. As an aside, I reveled in the schadenfreude of seeing a man I used to admire being struck down by the very thing that had me leave TYT and progressivism altogether: men's rights. I even sent him an email long ago explaining that he should watch a few of Karen's videos. Today was just a super-duper day. Enjoy: 3
shirgall Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 I really liked this interview. Cenk made a few stupid comments, but for the most part this was interesting and informative. Admittedly he loses his cool at the end, but that's how he normally operates with guests he dislikes.
J. D. Stembal Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Cenk thinks Karen is ridiculous and radical? He doesn't get out of the booth very often, does he?
shirgall Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 Cenk thinks Karen is ridiculous and radical? He doesn't get out of the booth very often, does he? Well, given that he was losing, name-calling was the tool he had.
PatrickC Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 It was interesting reading the comments. It seemed a lot of people were new to Karen and were very curious and a little annoyed at Cenks behaviour.
LovePrevails Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 good one, lots of history I am not aware of from my main source Warren Farrell Wow Cenk is a complete douchebag at the end there he won't even listen to her views she did a good job keeping her head though!
andkon Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 TL;DR Version: Karen: [insert complicated history of suffrage] Cenk: Yada, yada, are you thankful for the vote or are you going to blobby blah?!! I thought we're having a rational conversation but you refuse to fit into my black-and-white dichotomy!
jpahmad Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 Karen's argument: information, history, and logic Cenk's argument: "Awh, come on!"
PGP Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 It's tragic. With Cenk and the non-adhering to evidence or objective standards, they cannot back down, as to do so would destroy their credibility with the trendies and face a trendy-revolt of seething impotent hashtag rage. It is a real pity because I'm sure he would be capable of alot of good with his intelligence and skills in communication. He has been sold a pup and now he has to flip it to survive.
Mr. Wrong Posted February 6, 2015 Author Posted February 6, 2015 TL;DR Version: Karen: [insert complicated history of suffrage] Cenk: Yada, yada, are you thankful for the vote or are you going to blobby blah?!! I thought we're having a rational conversation but you refuse to fit into my black-and-white dichotomy! When he actually accused her of irrationality that was my favourite part. It's not everyday an accusation of irrationality is itself such a sterling example!
James Dean Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I think Karen is great and on so many levels. One thing that tickles me so is how she epitomizes the ideal feminist in their own terms; strong willed, inindependent, intelligent, etc. And she's simultaneously their worst nightmare haha 4
Ray H. Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I have no understanding of how TYT has gained any traction as a truth-finding news dispenser. Without fail, every segment I've seen is like this one: poor arguments, no objectivity, name-calling, condescension to guests. And on a superficial level, they aren't even appealing presenters. There's no charm or wit. I don't agree with Charlie Rose, Bill Moyers or Jon Stewart on a thousand issues, but they're brilliant presenters. The only sane explanation I can come up with is that TYT is the subtlest joke ever played on the public. Andy Kaufman in a wrestling match, yeah yeah yeah yeah. 2
LovePrevails Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I have no understanding of how TYT has gained any traction as a truth-finding news dispenser. Without fail, every segment I've seen is like this one: poor arguments, no objectivity, name-calling, condescension to guests. And on a superficial level, they aren't even appealing presenters. There's no charm or wit. I don't agree with Charlie Rose, Bill Moyers or Jon Stewart on a thousand issues, but they're brilliant presenters. The only sane explanation I can come up with is that TYT is the subtlest joke ever played on the public. Andy Kaufman in a wrestling match, yeah yeah yeah yeah. because they provide a cosmetic alternative to the mainstream media that is ostensibly rational and humanitarian in nature. It's "makes sense, feels good" liberalism rather than mainstream liberal (democrat/new labour) supporting 1
WasatchMan Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 because they provide a cosmetic alternative to the mainstream media that is ostensibly rational and humanitarian in nature. It's "makes sense, feels good" liberalism rather than mainstream liberal (democrat/new labour) supporting I gotta disagree with this. My experience with TYT is that it plays off a certain demographics political hate for conservatism and the caricature of the un-cool baby eating monocled republican. It is hard to find anything they put out that isn't just a slanderous stew of left-right paradigm arguments from adjective. TYT lives and breathes off of hate for conservatism, not an embracing of humanitarianism. 2
shirgall Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I have no understanding of how TYT has gained any traction as a truth-finding news dispenser... Remember the Brookings survey that determined that 8 percentage of the US population trust the Daily Show as a source of news, versus 5 percent for MSNBC? That's the world we live in.
Alan C. Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 The foundation of left-liberalism consists of intellectual myopia, responsibility avoidance, and high time preference.As I've mentioned before, left-liberals tend to enter fields in which results don't matter such as academia, journalism, and politics.
PatrickC Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Some people credit Cenk with some intelligence. Personally I see him as just your common or garden dyed in the wool chivalrous dog of a white knight. The kind of guy you'd be afraid to be around if a woman started screaming and hitting you for no good reason.
hannahbanana Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 800 likes against 3,300 dislikes? Those can't ALL be fans of Karen. I wonder how many TYT fans got a bad taste in their mouth from this.
shirgall Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 800 likes against 3,300 dislikes? Those can't ALL be fans of Karen. I wonder how many TYT fans got a bad taste in their mouth from this. There's no easy way to Like Karen and Dislike Cenk, though.
Libertus Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 At the end Cenk was really trying to get Karen to supplicate to him. He was trying to bully a woman to agree with him, by verbally abusing her and trying to elicit some emotional reaction. He really acted like a classic chauvinst - the typical white knight, who thinks women need his aggressive support, without even realizing it.
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