OtherOtie Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 In the second episode of House of Cards season 3, President Underwood, a democrat, turns on medicare, medicaid, and social security... he tells the poor that they are entitled to nothing. How interesting. This is how Stefan said the narrative would start to be shaped once the economic reality started to set in. Guess House of Cards sees it too. 2
WasatchMan Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 I would have to ask, do they see it, or are they part of it?
OtherOtie Posted February 28, 2015 Author Posted February 28, 2015 I would have to ask, do they see it, or are they part of it? Dunno. Not familiar with the creators, just thought it was interesting.
Jer Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 I was thinking the same thing when I heard that speech. Amazing that this is in the mainstream media. Slightly OT, I didn't understand the scene where the Underwoods had sex. It felt awkward and out of place. Was she asserting dominance or something?
TheSchoolofAthens Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 In the second episode of House of Cards season 3, President Underwood, a democrat, turns on medicare, medicaid, and social security... he tells the poor that they are entitled to nothing. How interesting. This is how Stefan said the narrative would start to be shaped once the economic reality started to set in. Guess House of Cards sees it too. I really like the line, "you are entitled to nothing." Unfortunately, Underwood is really saying the opposite. With his plan, the biggest job creation program since the new deal, there will be no more unemployment. "If you want a job, you get one." He's not saying that you have to go look for one, on the contrary he is saying the government will create jobs and give jobs to everyone. It is socialism under the guise of individualism. It reminds me a lot of Stalin's art style, socialist realism. Work hard, through government jobs, and watch as we all prosper! Very similar to the message of the New Deal policy and the art that was commissioned by the US government for the policy. Underwood specified in a meeting that the 3 points of focus for job creation would be infrastructure (build a bridge here! ooh ooh and a dam there! Build a highway system in the middle of nowhere!) military, as well as the the private sector. (One can imagine all the subsidies, bail outs, and cronyism) The narrative is interesting though. Once the economy gets so bad that it can no longer be ignored, will socialism take its hold on the entire nation under the guise of individual hard work? Twisted! I was thinking the same thing when I heard that speech. Amazing that this is in the mainstream media. Slightly OT, I didn't understand the scene where the Underwoods had sex. It felt awkward and out of place. Was she asserting dominance or something? I don't think this scene was about dominance, as in, Claire wasn't trying to dominate Frank. I think it was actually about them coming together, quite literally, in order to pull themselves up in order to dominate their obstacles, not each other. They are stronger as a pair than they would be separately - they get the media attention that comes with being a powerful couple, going out to dances and events, people also tend to like when a politician is married for a long period of time (we can trust that guy!) but overall they are stronger together. It is all their relationship really is. They are a power hungry couple who can only get satisfaction through high office and political scheming - and they would have destroyed each other long ago had they not realized the power they each gain by working together. They remind me of the relationship that Bill and Hillary must have, I'm sure Obama and Michelle have the same relationship, but Bill and Hillary are a better example because both are so addicted to titles and power. 1
Matt D Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I just watched this episode. I thought it was very well done. I can't help but be awed by the creativity of evil people. Underwood knows that people expect politicians to lie and so he throws in a nugget of truth, i.e. you are not entitled to anything, to really surprise people and separate himself from the typical gangster who only worries about being elected. Of course, this is the exact opposite of his real ambitions. No matter how bad things get there will always be those who believe in a savior... a golden gun, as Stef puts it. Until we raise the standard of parenting, that is. Speaking of which, what did people think of the opening scene when Frank pees on his father's grave? 1
BaylorPRSer Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 I didn't know what to make of that line "you are entitled to nothing" because Frank Underwood is a villain after all, so is the show portraying that as an evildoer's way of thinking? I took the pissing on his father's grave as acknowledging the role bad parenting played in the development of Frank into a sociopath.
Matt D Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 I took the pissing on his father's grave as acknowledging the role bad parenting played in the development of Frank into a sociopath. I appreciate that in this season we are getting hints of the main characters' upbringings, especially with the author tasked to write a propaganda piece about Frank.
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