PatrickC Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 A simply grim attack on tourists shot dead on a beach in Tunisa. 38 are now confirmed dead with more perhaps. A beheading also in France. The religion of peace strikes again. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33287978 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/world/europe/french-factory-lyon-attack-isis.html?_r=0
shirgall Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Patriarchy! 'He took a bullet for me' One survivor told the BBC how her fiance, a Welsh tourist, had been shot three times as he used his body as a shield. "He took a bullet for me," said Saera Wilson. "I owe him my life because he threw himself in front of me when the shooting started. "It was the bravest thing I've ever known. But I just had to leave him under the sunbed because the shooting just kept on coming.
Donnadogsoth Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Wouldn't it be nice if feminists would take one for the team now and then?--that is, to read that a woman died to save her husband, instead of vice versa?
shirgall Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Wouldn't it be nice if feminists would take one for the team now and then?--that is, to read that a woman died to save her husband, instead of vice versa? You get plenty of stories of women sacrificing themselves for their children, and to most that's the equivalent.
PatrickC Posted June 26, 2015 Author Posted June 26, 2015 I don't know guys, but a feminist repsonse was the last thing on my mind regarding this attrocity. What has struck me since, is the level of apologising and tolerance for a faith (particularly from the left) that seems to just want to say, we (or they) are a religion of peace. More than they are appalled by the attrocity itself. As far as I can tell this just fuels the terrorists further in their thuggery and degenerancy. I feel quite sick imagining these thugs just gunning innocents down on their sun loungers in cold blood.
MMX2010 Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 I don't know guys, but a feminist repsonse was the last thing on my mind regarding this attrocity. What has struck me since, is the level of apologising and tolerance for a faith (particularly from the left) that seems to just want to say, we (or they) are a religion of peace. More than we are appalled by the attrocity itself. As far as I can tell this just fuels the terrorists further in their thuggery and degenerancy. I feel quite sick imagining these thugs just gunning innocents down on their sun loungers in cold blood. Females hate the men of this culture because we're neither strong enough nor willing enough to provide them with guidance. Hence, they support the fantasy of strong, guiding men in a distant culture. What greater proof that females cannot stand strong and become virtuous without the guidance of virtuous men do you need? 2 2
shirgall Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 I don't know guys, but a feminist response was the last thing on my mind regarding this atrocity. Sorry, the reinforcement of the "disposable male" jumped out at me from that story.
PatrickC Posted June 26, 2015 Author Posted June 26, 2015 What greater proof that females cannot stand strong and become virtuous without the guidance of virtuous men do you need? I wouldn't expect anything less from you David given your recent conflations of course. Remind me, just how many women have you saved from the brink of lacking virtue. 1 1
MrCapitalism Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Wouldn't it be nice if feminists would take one for the team now and then? Wouldn't it be nice if the victims returned fire for once? Oh, but then it wouldn't be on the news..... 1
shirgall Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Wouldn't it be nice if the victims returned fire for once? Oh, but then it wouldn't be on the news..... http://m.snopes.com/jeanne-assam/ 1
MMX2010 Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 I wouldn't expect anything less from you David given your recent conflations of course. Remind me, just how many women have you saved from the brink of lacking virtue. Personal attacks have no business on this forum, Patrick. I'm allowed to give my opinion about the state of men in this culture, and you're allowed to counter-argue against that opinion. But resorting to sarcastic insult has no place here. 1 2
Donnadogsoth Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 I don't know guys, but a feminist repsonse was the last thing on my mind regarding this attrocity. What has struck me since, is the level of apologising and tolerance for a faith (particularly from the left) that seems to just want to say, we (or they) are a religion of peace. More than they are appalled by the attrocity itself. As far as I can tell this just fuels the terrorists further in their thuggery and degenerancy. I feel quite sick imagining these thugs just gunning innocents down on their sun loungers in cold blood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya Islam is a Janus-faced beast, as Dr. Bill Warner has described. There is the homicidal warlord version, and there is the we-just-want-to-do-our-thing version, both derived from the same basic texts of Koran, Sira, and Hadith. As he says in https://www.politicalislam.com/author/ Statistical methods applied to the Islamic texts showed that: Islam is far more of a political system than a religion. There is no unmitigated good in Islam for the Kafir (non-Muslim). Islam’s ethical system is dualistic and is not based on the Golden Rule. Islamic doctrine cannot be reconciled with our concepts of human rights and our Constitution. The great majority, 96%, of all Islamic doctrine about women subjugates them. The Sunna (what Mohammed did and said) is more important than the Koran in a Muslim’s daily life The only standard I apply to Muslims with regards to terrorism is whether they, without qualification, renounce violent jihad, and if they similarly denounce all who adhere to it. If they distance themselves from violent jihadi acts but do not renounce violent jihad and denounce all who adhere to it, consider them taqiyya.
shirgall Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 I pretty much place all Abrahamic religions on the same scale. They all have the same base rules, even if they have been modified by later players.
PatrickC Posted June 27, 2015 Author Posted June 27, 2015 Interesting Tunisia has ordered all mosques to be closed. They seem to think they know where this extremisim lies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33297245 The only standard I apply to Muslims with regards to terrorism is whether they, without qualification, renounce violent jihad, and if they similarly denounce all who adhere to it. If they distance themselves from violent jihadi acts but do not renounce violent jihad and denounce all who adhere to it, consider them taqiyya. Yes, I tend to agree with this. Maybe this is a eurocentric view, given that the Muslim poplualtion in the US is mostly integrated. Here in Europe we have large communities of Muslims that barely speak the language, who are often poorly educated. Since there are so many of them (500+ per day), they naturally want to hang together. They come with all the cultural scarring of the underclasses from totalitarian nations. Compared to Christians and Jews (even Hindus) I share little to no values with those of the Islamic faith, other than a few enlightened individuals. It should be noted that the more educated Muslim in Europe tends to spend most of their time defending their faith rather than condeming the attrocities done in it's name. It's more profitable for them to join forces with the left, who value the Muslim vote of course. Hence why we now have the most ridiculous slur of Islamaphobia. Which is designed to shut down any reasonable debate about this religion. Meanwhile Jihadi's run amok killing and butchering innocents.
SigmaTau Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 The voters themselves are very much to blame, if they had to choose between "no Sharia" vs "welfare state" many would choose the latter.I find this "blaming politicians" or 'the left" distracting from the fact that a majority of people enables them I am not feeling sorry for any "innocent" voters. Education doesnt cure anything, Educated muslims have a higher chance becoming terrorist then uneducated ones. So its not about education, its about moral framework!
PatrickC Posted June 27, 2015 Author Posted June 27, 2015 I am not feeling sorry for any "innocent" voters. Wow!
SigmaTau Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 "..given that the Muslim poplualtion in the US is mostly integrated..." EU leaders after decades of government sponsored segregation (multikilti) finally discovered "integration"., another nonsensical new-speaked word. integration in the US. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/ground-zero-mosque-developer-now-plans-museum-of-islam-at-ground-zero US tends towards balkanisation, not integration. a leftist nation wrecking tactic. Not because they hate the state , they just want their version of statism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWKp80UwA-M
MMX2010 Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Am not going to post pictures or links, but ISIS in Syria executed four gay men by throwing them off a roof, and posted some pictures under the hashtag LoveWins - (the same one Americans used to celebrate the Supreme Court gay marriage decision).
MMX2010 Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Thought this was definitely funny, and probably true. ================== Where the Muslims are not happy: They're not happy in Gaza.They're not happy in Egypt.They're not happy in Libya.They're not happy in Morocco.They're not happy in Iran.They're not happy in Iraq.They're not happy in Yemen.They're not happy in Afghanistan.They're not happy in Pakistan.They're not happy in Syria.They're not happy in Lebanon.They're not happy in Indonesia. So, where are they happy? They're happy in Australia.They're happy in England.They're happy in France.They're happy in Italy.They're happy in Germany.They're happy in Sweden.They're happy in the USA.They're happy in Norway. They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame for their unhappiness? Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy. Try to find logic in that. 2
Donnadogsoth Posted June 27, 2015 Posted June 27, 2015 Thought this was definitely funny, and probably true. ================== Where the Muslims are not happy: They're not happy in Gaza. They're not happy in Egypt. They're not happy in Libya. They're not happy in Morocco. They're not happy in Iran. They're not happy in Iraq. They're not happy in Yemen. They're not happy in Afghanistan. They're not happy in Pakistan. They're not happy in Syria. They're not happy in Lebanon. They're not happy in Indonesia. So, where are they happy? They're happy in Australia. They're happy in England. They're happy in France. They're happy in Italy. They're happy in Germany. They're happy in Sweden. They're happy in the USA. They're happy in Norway. They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame for their unhappiness? Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy. Try to find logic in that. An efficacious and timely observation.
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