Omega 3 snake oil Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I'm dealing with some scary health symptoms at the moment and am wondering if Stef or anyone else can offer some insight re: how to navigate Ontario's health care system.Over the past year or so I've had issues with weight/muscle loss and rapid aging/collagen depletion. I went to my GP for some basic tests and was told everything is normal.Over the past few months the loss of strength has gotten more pronounced and there has been increasing fatigue both physical and mental. Again my GP can't find anything. I've had a few instances of losing massive amount of weight quickly coupled with a general sense of malaise and been to an ER. Again basic tests, again normal.The past two weeks I've developed a cough at nighttime along with headaches, confusion, and the worst fatigue I've ever experienced (hurts to get out of bed). Haven't been to work in three days. Can barely function. Now there are pounding headaches and a burning pain in my chest. Went to ER tonight and was looked at then quickly sent home.Other symptoms I've had include skin lesions that don't heal, and slow healing in general, hoarseness/loss of voice. This has been over the past couple of months as well, even up to a year. I have a past history of autoimmunity and Epstein Barr infection which makes me worry about lymphoma specifically.I'm not sure what to do next. the ER doc told me he can get me a referral to a specialist in about a month.Any input re: where to turn for a proper diagnosis would be much appreciated.
J. D. Stembal Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 Find a naturopathic doctor in your area. Forget about insurance and pay cash. You can't be fooling around with symptoms like this. Did any of the doctors you saw ask you about your diet and lifestyle?
Alan C. Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 The symptoms you're describing reminded me of a co-worker who was on sick-leave for months due to similar symptoms. When she returned, she told me that she had Mononucleosis. What is your diet like?
Omega 3 snake oil Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 diet is pretty clean, tons of veggies, fruits, protein, healthy fats, supplements...I've been maowing melatonin for the past three years as it's the only thing that allows me to get sleep. Now I'm learning you shouldn't use it if you're at risk for autoimmunity (!).Have already seen a naturopath, have been doing so for over two years.
Omega 3 snake oil Posted July 3, 2015 Author Posted July 3, 2015 The symptoms you're describing reminded me of a co-worker who was on sick-leave for months due to similar symptoms. When she returned, she told me that she had Mononucleosis. I do have a history of Epstein barr infection--thats the same virus that causes mono. So yeah that could play some part here. What I'm worried about is, EBV has triggered something autoimmune like it did three years ago
Alan C. Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 I've read negative things about melatonin. Try chamomile instead. Also, avoid caffeine.
shirgall Posted July 3, 2015 Posted July 3, 2015 Melatonin regulation should be limited to resetting one's sleep cycle... one at sundown, another at bedtime. I haven't really seen it's helpful for much else.
Omega 3 snake oil Posted July 4, 2015 Author Posted July 4, 2015 What tests specifically did they run? - CBC - ESR - TSH - AST - C reactive protein - Glucose - HbA1C - Creatinine - Sodium/Potassium - ASR also a chest xray. All these were normal and I've been assured a disease like lymphoma would show up in the blood, but I'm not convinced. I've read negative things about melatonin. Try chamomile instead. Also, avoid caffeine. Melatonin regulation should be limited to resetting one's sleep cycle... one at sundown, another at bedtime. I haven't really seen it's helpful for much else. Melatonin is the only thing that has allowed me to get somewhat normal sleep in the past three years. Prescription meds were of little help; I could fall asleep but not stay asleep, or reach deep sleep. I think there is an autoimmune dysfunction with my HPA axis. My main worry is I've jacked my immune system with illness and stress, and I've been taking supplements to keep it propped up, and now it's finally blown a gasket. Does anyone know any details on how Stef got diagnosed? I'm going to a private MRI clinic as soon as they'll take me, just got the lab req from my doctor today.
Omega 3 snake oil Posted August 21, 2015 Author Posted August 21, 2015 Turns out I have Lyme disease. Glad it's not cancer but this is still pretty effed up. May have to leave Ontario for treatment.
shirgall Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Turns out I have Lyme disease. Glad it's not cancer but this is still pretty effed up. May have to leave Ontario for treatment. Very sorry to hear that. It's a tough one to fight. My father got it from a tick bite a couple decades ago. It's definitely good that you and your team figured out what was wrong.
A4E Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Have you been eating, or are you eating any artificial chemicals at the moment?
green banana Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 any artificial chemicals at the moment? What are artificial chemicals?
A4E Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 What are artificial chemicals? I reserve the word 'medicine' for all things natural that is beneficial for health. But that is not what the dealers in white coats give you. Those are artificially made, and they need to be in order to make lots of money from them with patents. However few people realize what they are actually ingesting, which is artificial chemicals/compounds that have never before been in nature, and so all biological life do not know what to do about them, which translate into all kinds of different wrenches in the biological machinery of our bodies. And plenty of people dying. 1
green banana Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Lets say you have H20, one is artificially made, the other one is 'natural'. How can you tell the difference? Those are artificially made, and they need to be in order to make lots of money from them with patents. Where do you draw the line? Are anaesthetics 'unnatural'?
A4E Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 Lets say you have H20, one is artificially made, the other one is 'natural'. How can you tell the difference? Where do you draw the line? Are anaesthetics 'unnatural'? 'Artificial' have been defined as 'not found in nature'. Here is the google quick result: "made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally, typically as a copy of something natural. 'her skin glowed in the artificial light'" 1
Pelafina Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Anyone with any infectious disease should research medical ozone therapy.
Omega 3 snake oil Posted August 28, 2015 Author Posted August 28, 2015 I think anyone who drinks tap water and buys food in a supermarket is ingesting artificial chemicals, so yes I definitely have. Maybe there is a toxicity component to my illness, but my Lyme test isn't lying. 2
shirgall Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 'Artificial' have been defined as 'not found in nature'. Kinda arbitrary. We're part of nature, everything we make uses ingredients we find in nature, so why is it what we make suddenly not "natural"? Arbitrary distinction. Gaia made us because it had no easier way to produce styrofoam for itself, and when we stopped making it, She got angry and made it warmer and the oceans deeper. 1
A4E Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Kinda arbitrary. We're part of nature, everything we make uses ingredients we find in nature, so why is it what we make suddenly not "natural"? Arbitrary distinction. Gaia made us because it had no easier way to produce styrofoam for itself, and when we stopped making it, She got angry and made it warmer and the oceans deeper. I have seen this argument before. And it is logical yes. But it fails on a biological life form perspective. O2 was not found in the atmosphere in the early times of our planet, and apparently Cyanobacteria filled the atmosphere with O2. Quote: "the rising concentrations may have wiped out most of the Earth's anaerobic inhabitants at the time." So that might have been the first example of a life form introducing a new compound which the other life forms had no idea how to handle. I am fairly certain that the human biological life form does not know how to handle all the new chemicals we are adding into our lives. So if you accept that everything we make is natural, then you should also accept that it is natural when people's health go down and can die from what we make. I know people will want to defend these horrid things because they might be using them right now. I am very happy that I am not on any of that anymore. I advice everyone to find out what you really need, and stop using them asap. I was eating artificial hormones for low metabolism for 10 years, which made me slightly retarded. Iodine/Iodide was what I needed. After getting what I really needed, energy went up, and retardation went away. I had a period where I was getting arthritis, turns out you need calcium and gelatin for that. 1
shirgall Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 I am fairly certain that the human biological life form does not know how to handle all the new chemicals we are adding into our lives. And I'm fairly certain that the life on Earth now is some of the most adaptable life that has ever existed on this planet. 1
A4E Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 And I'm fairly certain that the life on Earth now is some of the most adaptable life that has ever existed on this planet. Yes of course. You could even say that the life on earth now IS the most adaptable because it is the life forms that has survived. If you however think that ie humans are very adaptable and can handle most things, like new compounds never before been in nature, then how come so many cannot handle them when directed in how to use them by other humans? (I have not researched anything to see if the number is correct or not) Edit: This looks like a better link. I actually take this more seriously than you think, because a person close to me almost committed suicide because of these things.
Omega 3 snake oil Posted September 1, 2015 Author Posted September 1, 2015 Yep so anyway Lyme disease...Saw a specialist in Toronto today, surprise surprise he says my Lyme test from a private lab in the US is inconclusive. He wants me to get another, OHIP test done to confirm. I'm thinking of going out of Ontario for treatment...
shirgall Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 If you however think that ie humans are very adaptable and can handle most things, like new compounds never before been in nature, then how come so many cannot handle them when directed in how to use them by other humans? (I have not researched anything to see if the number is correct or not). Edit: This looks like a better link. I actually take this more seriously than you think, because a person close to me almost committed suicide because of these things. I am familiar that iatrogenic disease kills a lot of people. But it saves far more people than it kills, so we accept it. I do take it seriously, especially since my wife is a emergency room nurse.
A4E Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 I am familiar that iatrogenic disease kills a lot of people. But it saves far more people than it kills, so we accept it. I do take it seriously, especially since my wife is a emergency room nurse. We have a natural substance for most if not all ailments, that are in many cases more effective than artificial patented drugs. But most importantly, deaths due to natural substances like vitamins and minerals and oils and fats, are virtually nonexistent, so they are actually safe to use and mostly without side effects, compared to patented drugs that can also tag along several other patented drugs to 'manage' the side effects of the first one. I can say that natural substances have 'saved' a lot more people than patented drugs.
Dumitru Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 I'm dealing with some scary health symptoms at the moment and am wondering if Stef or anyone else can offer some insight re: how to navigate Ontario's health care system. -snip- Any input re: where to turn for a proper diagnosis would be much appreciated. Re: navigating the Ontario Hell Insurance Plan: as far as I can tell he didn't even try, fortunately. Any chance you can get to a private clinic in the US for a diagnostic/second opinion? I wouldn't put it past the commie doctors to give you a diagnostic that kinda fits just to get you out of their hair. 1
Omega 3 snake oil Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 Re: navigating the Ontario Hell Insurance Plan: as far as I can tell he didn't even try, fortunately. Any chance you can get to a private clinic in the US for a diagnostic/second opinion? I wouldn't put it past the commie doctors to give you a diagnostic that kinda fits just to get you out of their hair. Basically yes that's what's been going on. I'm planning on seeing a naturopath in British Columbia, where they are able to prescribe drugs.
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