Where is the best place in the US to live for anarchists/libertarians?

[Camionneurbiker]

Well, where is it? 

 

I'm at the point in life when I see no growth for improving, socially and in self improvement, in the place I live. I've literally joined every atheltic group there is, went to weekly shows at the local venues, and did fishing derbies with coworkers.  I still can't resonate with anyone, as the functioning people are either super statist and will ostercize you if you are anti gov in the strict sense that freedomain radio is known for.  On the flip side there is the cliquish art crowd who is anti state, but will glady take gov handouts and do fuck all with their lives.  Both sides of the spectrum are no bueno   Been working a well paying job as a local truck driving Teamster( 80-85k a year but a worthless pension) here in the midwest, so I have an endgame financially planned out: leave at 35 with 150k and IRA savings and start over.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say the Northwest, particulary the state of Washington.  I've been to the area for vacations and school, so I don't know the the place intimately but that's where'd I guess it would be. Places like Toronto for the Canadians or NYC for us below the border are massive enough to find like minded people from all walks of life, but just look at the real estate!

 

Where is the fucking tribe??  

[SigmaTau]

Physical locations (if you are rich):  Dubai, Swiss Confederacy (Kanton Zug/Sweiss, stay out of Kanton Bernd-- filthy socialists!),

Physical locations (if you are not so rich): Mexico/Panama (they have only territorial taxes, so work over internet for US companies and you pay 0% tax!! plus cheap living, you can have your own private island in Panama for 20K usd-- bring your own solar and satellite uplink).

[villagewisdom]

You can get on someone else's bandwagon but by your post you sound like the kind of person that has definite ideas about how the community should work.  Have you considered creating your own tribe? It would take some time but would be worth it in the end I think. 

[NGardner]

What if you moved and then the government turned that place into a more socialist operating system? Would you pick up and moved to the next most free area? Living life by the whims of government seems to be like a person who the government has massive control over. Pick the place where you would live if there was no government and then live freely in that area. Avoid and pay minimal taxes once a year and forget about the government. If you find this tribe of people would you follow them around?

[Alan C.]

Washington and Texas have no state income tax. Some people in Washington drive into Oregon to go shopping because there is no sales tax. Washington tends to have overcast weather and high precipitation. Seattle is a beautiful city, but it's a little pricey. Texas has a low cost of living and real estate is cheap. Some areas are very humid. New Hampshire has very cold winters if you can tolerate it.

[Camionneurbiker]

I was thinking on how, say, Eugene became the haven for weed snobs and outdoor fitness. Aerospace and puters in that area seem more promising than quite new england towns in NH.

 

I suppose that level headed anarchists and or libertarians have their friends and family situation already solved, so uprooting that, even if it is in the cesspool great lakes rust belt, might be foolish. 

[Susana]

strategic relocations by joel skousen is an interesting read. But its where ever you make your stand. also diversify aka gold silver bitcoin etc

[shirgall]

Washington is by no means friendly to libertarians. (Lived here for over 15 years)

[JanneW]

I sympathize with your exasperation that it's so hard to find good people. But, aren't you running into contradictions here? I get the idea that your emotions are really speaking with your question: "Where's the (my?) tribe?" Can there be a tribe made up of the kind of people who oppose cleaving to a tribe?

 

Perhaps a tribe is too much to ask for in this complicated world, if you fully take into account all the complications that make up you. I'd say, if you can find *one* good person, who's really right for you, it might be worth moving to the other side of the country to live near this person. If you can find a cluster of two or three, so much better. With one person you can have a deep and complicated relationship, in which you can grow further. A tribe might be too much of an idealization to permit real connection and growth. Try living intimately and truthfully with one person, then three, maybe that's all of tribe anyone needs?

[Steve Winder]

I live in Missouri and am interested in potentially moving to New Hampshire bc FSP. Not for any of the political stuff, but just bc I want to be around more liberty minded people and to get away from my family. 

[Shea Roberts]

I was born and raised in Texas. Texas is good for no state income tax & cheap real estate. However, there are lots of religious people in Texas and while they may appear friendly to outsiders, it's all very superficial. They would sympathize with you on government control over taxes and what not, but by no means ever mention anything to do with drug legalization, opposition to the military, or general talk of "anarchy" of any kind. They're the other side of the coin of the nanny-state liberals, the nanny-state conservatives who feel they need to control what you do in your personal life. For example, in my home county up until the year 2008, you could not buy alcohol of any kind (including beer and wine) at any establishment other than restaurants or bars. Now only beer and wine is sold in stores (hard liquor you have to travel out of county to border liquor shops). And even then, you cannot purchase it "any time". You can't buy on Sunday's before noon. That is the actual law in Texas. All because you should be in church instead of boozing it up on Sundays. But it's all very hypocritical as most of the churchies still drink in their private life, but condemn it publicly.

But, I see more and more libertarians among younger people, so within a few generations it might be ok.