Mister Mister Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 http://qz.com/465915/a-sprinters-landmark-case-rules-in-favor-of-gender-fluidity-in-sports/ I just found this interesting. So let the women compete with the men "Although athletics events are divided into discrete male and female categories, sex in humans is not simply binary,” says the court in its 161 pages dissertation, one of longest the tribunal has issued. “As it was put during the hearing: ‘Nature is not neat.’ There is no single determinant of sex." ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gee Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 What kind of self respecting man would compete against women in athletic endeavours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuzzums Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 "There is no single determinant of sex." I don't know how I could possibly refute this, except by quoting any phrase from any biology textbook ever written. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fractional slacker Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Another example of sociology > biology.Testosterone good until an arbitrary measurement is achieved, then testosterone is bad. If that's a standard for women's sports, why not apply it to men's sports? Muh egalitarianism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. D. Stembal Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 What kind of self respecting man would compete against women in athletic endeavours? The kind that doesn't mind getting beaten by a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gee Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The kind that doesn't mind getting beaten by a woman. Show me someone who doesn't mind losing and I'll show you a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. D. Stembal Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Show me someone who doesn't mind losing and I'll show you a loser. The only way to lose is to not show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gee Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The only way to lose is to not show up. If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percentient Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hold on, they're using a measure of male-ness that's not just chromosomes or penis, and they've been doing that since the 60s. Isn't that gender-fluid to begin with? To accept that there is never a universal and clear-cut criterion for gender? If women in sports is supposed to be this glorious thing for girls to look up to, and aspire to, what good does it do to see a bunch of self-identified intersex women with genetic disorders, who most girls can never and should never want to be like? What do these people want?? I have short legs and I can never be successful in sprinting either. THE IAAF IS OPPRESSING ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeardslastcall Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It's more interesting when you have some natural limiters on performance. IE, Can run a mile in X minutes and capable of naturally birthing healthy children isn't the same as someone who can't. Though it may be uncomfortable for some people to hear, you're not fully women if you can't give birth to new life and you're not fully man if you can't produce sperm or equivalent. Whole point of sexes is tied to ability to reproduce and which side of the puzzle you fit into on that and the natural limits that gives. If you can't do either of those roles you're playing a different game and aren't working under the same limitations, thus you're in a different competitive category. Isn't that also why they don't like doping, because it breaks the game if you're willing to hurt yourself and break some healthy limitations to achieve the goal? Running X miles and being okay and running X miles with drugs, but dropping dead shortly after isn't the same game. To me a level playing field is about working under the same fair constraints and then seeing who can perform best under those constraints. The more you remove constraints and break lines the more you break the nature of the game and the ability to have a 'fair' game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gee Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 There is no level playing field, there has never been a level playing field, there never will be a level playing field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_age_effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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