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I, like I presume many people here, enjoy engaging in discourse in various communities around the net. I like to challenge myself in the pursuit of reason, knowledge, and evidence by trying to pit my wits against discourse.

 

But often times I feel like maybe I'm missing something when it comes to being as precise as I desire. I know I'm not terrible by any means, but I often feel a little lacking in feedback. Like there's no experienced individual I could turn to for judging my discussions. It'd also be nice to have a second opinion for telling me when enough is enough. 

 

I don't want an echo chamber, just to meet people who can tell me when I've done an apt duty at defending reason, rationality, and evidence. I suppose I moreso worry that I'm picking fights which are too into the realm of being unreasonable and I'm not doing anything but wasting my time and making a foolish display for those who would like to do similar.

 

Does anyone else feel similar?

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But often times I feel like maybe I'm missing something when it comes to being as precise as I desire. I know I'm not terrible by any means, but I often feel a little lacking in feedback. Like there's no experienced individual I could turn to for judging my discussions. It'd also be nice to have a second opinion for telling me when enough is enough.

 

You might be presuming that if you just have been more precise, you could have convinced the other person, or won the argument. This is not the case most of the time when arguing with people who hold unreasonable positions. They simply "want" to believe what they believe to profit from it. They simply are gaining something with their ideas. Enough is enough after just once or twice they have ignored any argument or deferred to emotional pleas. Alternatively, when I have managed to be persuasive, I leave it the moment they start asking real questions back to me instead of just "but what about the roads" or something equally amateur. The moment they show even a glint of curiosity in you or doubt in themselves, is a good time to drop all the weapons and chill.

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