eeik Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 This is all rather grim, but it can't last and it can be reversed. Suppose we characterise these actions as socialism we might draw upon history and observe that socialism always fails and so conclude that this present attempt at socialism will certainly fail as has every previous attempt. Quoting eeik's previous post within The European "migrant" Crisis thread. I recall some pretty interesting stuff going on. Why not create a thread asking this question? It might serve as a central repository of information, might facilitate productive collaboration, there might be something that peeks your interest? @Graham, Thanks! I agree with your suggestion to fork the discussion. Let's go with that suggestion here! First of all however, I'm sensing the same sort of "hope" and "faith" that I alluded to in my previous post from your own comments. By stating that "it can't stand" and that "it can be reversed", I don't get the sense that we're on the same page in terms of what it is we're envisioning as a desirable future state. Let's concretize those statements a bit with specific individual actions, group motions in a desirable direction, or simply plans that each of us as individuals might actually have and are working to implement to assure these statements are based in something tangible vs. the collectivized hope that I feel when I read them. The cycles of this socialistic experiment have come one after another and each individual instance may have been a localized failure to some degree, however the latest versions have simply built upon the failures of the previous and upped their level of sophistication towards the global neo-feudalistic/socialistic/technocratic caste-like serfdom that is developing and enveloping the minds of the current generation quite swimmingly. Of course there's a bit of over-generalizing going on here as some parts of the world are still incredibly entrenched in a much harder form of tyranny than the happy Canadian/Denmark/Swedish models that are venerated by modern policy makers ... and bloggers of course. The ills of the world are all pretty irreconcilable, the irrational are finding more and more justification to re-entrench themselves in their irrationality, and the rational ... well, we've really not run across many FDR-type folks on our travels and we've been at this for nearly two years. This migrant crisis video highlights the particularly long-range implications of what's unfolding before our eyes. At what point do we drop the charade that our individual actions, particularly in the face of such tremendous onslaught, have an ounce of positive impact relative to what we see? Hope and faith seem to be the universal human motivators and when shedding our superstitious baggage these two notions fall away and at best we have "optimism based upon our personal efforts" to rely upon to to rouse us from our slumber each morning. That optimism for me is waning and the inner cynic in me is falling back to remind me of a Rust Cohle quote from True Detective Season 1: "I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction - one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal." - Rustin Cohle --> True Detective show Philosophy Antinatalism Is the fact that I'm constantly reminded of this quote simply evidence that I resonate with cynicism due to the environment I've been exposed to? Is the fact that I'm curious as to why I don't subscribe blindly to faith nor hope and feel that Stef's advice to me during my previous call amounts to little more than "have faith" or "there's hope" the reason that I'm writing this lengthy on but slightly off-topic post? Is there even a question that last question? Deeper still, is the fact that this quote was injected into the public consciousness via this popular show possibly a programmatic way to help encourage the educated west to stop reproducing and enable a broader and unseen plan to deconstruct the west? Is the fact that mass mind-control has been so smoothly injected into modernity evidence of an unstoppable cosmic force inherent in the nature of all things, beings, and perceived reality? Are we, in the west, simply fascinated and bio-chemically stimulated by a good story because Walt Disney taught us all to be and now wish to experience the emotional roller coaster of watching what unfolds for these "poor poor migrants" at the expense of the remnants of our own systematically collapsing cultures? Will the realization of the 500 million be perhaps the one true path to the dawn of the new "age of reason"? I have very few solid answers to any of the above ... do you? What are one or two specific actions that each of you will now take as a result of Stef's video on this "crisis" and who specifically will these actions directly impact? I'd love to hear some objectively positive and optimism inspiring action that others in the FDR community are engaging with! Please Note ... because Lars93 (post here) seemed to take away from my post that I was implying "shoulds" or "oughts" in my questions, which I was not. The "deeper still" questions above are me being a bit sarcastic and cynical to play devils advocate with my own thinking. I'm not in any way suggesting Rustin Cohle's quote is my own distilled feeling on the matter, nor am I suggesting that 500 million as per the Georgia Guidestones is my own desire, nor am I suggesting that there is an unstoppable cosmic force helping to catapult the mind-control into the public consciousness. I'm injecting these as vast bodies of psychological influence on the western mind that form the basis for our own (those of us brought up in the west) individual actions.
Anuojat Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 The relative darkness of humanitys past is my hope. And my own actions againts ANY tide of irrationality is to support this show, ostracice people in my life and make the case and arguements clear. Namely the againts me and economic and moral arguements. Also not wasting my time supporting a debate that doesnt deserve attention.
eeik Posted September 24, 2015 Author Posted September 24, 2015 And my own actions againts ANY tide of irrationality is to support this show, ostracice people in my life and make the case and arguements clear. Namely the againts me and economic and moral arguements. Also not wasting my time supporting a debate that doesnt deserve attention. Anuojat, a noble daily practice indeed! A bit abstract and from my experiences, especially while traveling, intensely isolating and confrontational to most people, but headed in the direction of a nouveau zen aphorism to live by... thanks for your reply!
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