Why does popular culture celebrate violence against men?

[laowai]

Hot on the heels of Katy Perrys 'Roar' music video; in which a tiger kills her male companion and she then goes on to demonstrate her independence by embodying the very thing that killed him- the tiger. To Taylor Swift's music video 'Blank Space' which sees Swift bashing up her boyfriends and trying to kill them at times.

 

Now we have prominent pop diva Lorde graphically killing a man in her new music video 'Disclosure'.

 

And what is most disturbing, Lorde admits she has had this fantasy since she was 18 and has envisioned doing this to real boyfriends. Scary.

 

So I am watching TV and noticed a lot of shows revolve around violence against men, which popular culture is ok with and nobody ever complains about. Sure you may easily dismiss it as an innocent action sequence against a faceless man- but isn't that the whole point? That men are portrayed as these disposable things who we have no problem with depicting the death of for our entertainment. Isn't this all kind of a little sick? I mean you always see this or that man being killed or attacked in some high octane action adventure drama; yet you never see women killed in similar circumstances. Usually when women are killed on TV they have at least been humanized before hand so we feel a loss when they die; yet with men we just see them as these dehumanized non-entities who are expected to be killed like worthless sacks of skin and bone, and we are conditioned to see this as normal and not feel any loss when they die.

 

And what makes this all the more worse is that everyone only focuses on violence against women; yet the majority of what we see on TV and in Movies is violence against men.

 

When you think about it, I mean really think about it, movie studios and television producers are profiting massively from depictions of violence against men. How is this acceptable in a modern humane society? Especially in the context of the way we deal with violence against women.

 

Kind of feeling like there is no hope for men in the world right now.

 

Why is it ok for women, lets remember these are GROWN WOMEN; to make such videos that celebrate, perpetuate and profit from depictions of violence against men; ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW SOCIETY REACTS TO VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN!

 

Why is this type of behavior by women celebrated, yet if the roles were reversed such a thing would be seen as domestic violence. Women can't be strong and independent without resorting to hateful attacks against men- why is this? Why is it when women get into positions of power they have to behave in a way that is hateful to men?

 

I mean in the past women were not allowed to vote etc, but you never saw men actively running campaigns of hate towards women.

 

 

She's made headlines for her new video clip for Magnets, her latest collaboration with Disclosure.

And it's not hard to see why, with Kiwi singer Lorde, 18, showing off her darker side in the raunchy clip.

From kissing a married man to later setting him on fire, it seems Lorde has enjoyed playing an onscreen vixen, tweeting: 'One of my life goals has always been "to one day play a hitgirl who pretends to seduce then burns alive douchey boyfriends (sic)."

 

Lorde, real name is Ella Marija Lani Yelich-O'Connor, first stuns on-screen in a plunging white dress as she cavorts around a party at a Los Angeles mansion.

 

She's then seen canoodling with the married man as tensions appear to rise between him and his partner.

At one point the other woman turns near a window with what looks to have a black eye.

 

While it appears Lorde's character is having an affair, she later dons a shiny leather trench coat as she looks at the wife, implying they are working together to avenge the man, before pushing him into the pool and setting him alight.

 

Lorde tweeted she not only played a 'hitgirl' but also implied the woman was the subject of domestic violence and that's why her character was around. 

'The most important part of the video is when you see her black eye as she turns away at the window.. hope it all makes sense from that point,' she tweeted.

 

She also retweeted a picture post about the black eye, which in part read: 'That's the point the whole video hinges on / takes it from being "an affair narrative" to being "dude's girlfriend hired miss ella the hit girl to 'seduce' him then take him the F**K out. (sic)"

She then later thanked fans for '1,000,000 views in 1 day, thanks beejs (sic).'

 

Lorde is known for her hits including Royals and Tennis Court and was discovered at just 12-years-old.

 

She's had a number of gongs under her belt, including Grammys and Billboard Music Awards. 

She is currently dating long-term boyfriend James Lowe, who she has been with for more than two years.

 

source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3255601/Lorde-seduces-married-man-sets-fire-embraces-dark-raunchy-new-video-Disclosure.html

 

[Koroviev]

 

Hot on the heels of Katy Perrys 'Roar' music video; in which a tiger kills her male companion and she then goes on to demonstrate her independence by embodying the very thing that killed him- the tiger. To Taylor Swift's music video 'Blank Space' which sees Swift bashing up her boyfriends and trying to kill them at times.

 

Now we have prominent pop diva Lorde graphically killing a man in her new music video 'Disclosure'.

 

And what is most disturbing, Lorde admits she has had this fantasy since she was 18 and has envisioned doing this to real boyfriends. Scary.

 

So I am watching TV and noticed a lot of shows revolve around violence against men, which popular culture is ok with and nobody ever complains about. Sure you may easily dismiss it as an innocent action sequence against a faceless man- but isn't that the whole point? That men are portrayed as these disposable things who we have no problem with depicting the death of for our entertainment. Isn't this all kind of a little sick? I mean you always see this or that man being killed or attacked in some high octane action adventure drama; yet you never see women killed in similar circumstances. Usually when women are killed on TV they have at least been humanized before hand so we feel a loss when they die; yet with men we just see them as these dehumanized non-entities who are expected to be killed like worthless sacks of skin and bone, and we are conditioned to see this as normal and not feel any loss when they die.

 

And what makes this all the more worse is that everyone only focuses on violence against women; yet the majority of what we see on TV and in Movies is violence against men.

 

When you think about it, I mean really think about it, movie studios and television producers are profiting massively from depictions of violence against men. How is this acceptable in a modern humane society? Especially in the context of the way we deal with violence against women.

 

Kind of feeling like there is no hope for men in the world right now.

 

Why is it ok for women, lets remember these are GROWN WOMEN; to make such videos that celebrate, perpetuate and profit from depictions of violence against men; ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW SOCIETY REACTS TO VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN!

 

Why is this type of behavior by women celebrated, yet if the roles were reversed such a thing would be seen as domestic violence. Women can't be strong and independent without resorting to hateful attacks against men- why is this? Why is it when women get into positions of power they have to behave in a way that is hateful to men?

 

I mean in the past women were not allowed to vote etc, but you never saw men actively running campaigns of hate towards women.

 

 

And it's not hard to see why, with Kiwi singer Lorde, 18, showing off her darker side in the raunchy clip.

From kissing a married man to later setting him on fire, it seems Lorde has enjoyed playing an onscreen vixen, tweeting: 'One of my life goals has always been "to one day play a hitgirl who pretends to seduce then burns alive douchey boyfriends (sic)."

 

Lorde, real name is Ella Marija Lani Yelich-O'Connor, first stuns on-screen in a plunging white dress as she cavorts around a party at a Los Angeles mansion.

 

She's then seen canoodling with the married man as tensions appear to rise between him and his partner.

At one point the other woman turns near a window with what looks to have a black eye.

 

While it appears Lorde's character is having an affair, she later dons a shiny leather trench coat as she looks at the wife, implying they are working together to avenge the man, before pushing him into the pool and setting him alight.

 

Lorde tweeted she not only played a 'hitgirl' but also implied the woman was the subject of domestic violence and that's why her character was around. 

'The most important part of the video is when you see her black eye as she turns away at the window.. hope it all makes sense from that point,' she tweeted.

 

She also retweeted a picture post about the black eye, which in part read: 'That's the point the whole video hinges on / takes it from being "an affair narrative" to being "dude's girlfriend hired miss ella the hit girl to 'seduce' him then take him the F**K out. (sic)"

She then later thanked fans for '1,000,000 views in 1 day, thanks beejs (sic).'

 

Lorde is known for her hits including Royals and Tennis Court and was discovered at just 12-years-old.

 

She's had a number of gongs under her belt, including Grammys and Billboard Music Awards. 

She is currently dating long-term boyfriend James Lowe, who she has been with for more than two years.

 

source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3255601/Lorde-seduces-married-man-sets-fire-embraces-dark-raunchy-new-video-Disclosure.html

 

 

yup

[Mister Mister]

  Great question.  This stuff is horrifying when you first see it, and it is everywhere.  It's even more frustrating because it's the opposite of what everyone says - violence against men is normalized whereas violence against women is exaggerated.  I think to some extent, this is biological.  Historically, women survive by cooperating with other women, and with society, to have networks which will support them through pregnancy and nursing.  Men survive by competing with other men to gather resources, and win the affections of women.  Women tend to be seen more as an amorphous blob, while there is more emphasis on the differences among men.   This is why most CEOs and politicians are men, but the homeless and imprisoned are also mostly men.  Women emphasize the differences in men because it means the difference between their kids having good genes, and having food, or not.  Men emphasize the differences amongst themselves, because it is what is different about them that gets them laid.  Does that make sense?

 

  When we see women harmed, this means one less potential breeder for the genepool, and women see this as potential harm to them, so people tend to recoil.  But when men are harmed, women see this as a loser they don't want to breed with anyway, and men see him as one less competitor.    Karen Straughan talks about the "one good man" phenomenon, where men talk about other men as if they are so horrible to women, as a way to one-up those men and improve their standing.  And when there is a conflict between man and woman, people of both sexes tend to favor the woman.  As this psych study says, "women like women more than men like men".  So it's totally fine to see Uma Thurman slice through 100 young men, but not the other way around.

 

  This is part of what's tricky about this issue, is the way we are wired.  So when you express frustration with the way men are being portrayed rather than, "fuck yea, that guy got what was coming to him", women perceive you as a whiny loser rather than an alpha who will throw other men under the bus, and other men will take it as an opportunity to put you down and elevate themselves.  I don't know if this can change in the general culture until women feel they need men as much or more than men need women.  Until then, however, you can find the rare women who actually have empathy for men.

[shirgall]

Even the recent smutty Carl's Jr ad has a cowboy getting a volleyball spiked at him for not paying attention to women, when the outrage of the moment is that men pay attention to attractive women.

[Flying]

It is mainly because the majority of men are a bunch of R selected fem boys who seem to be attracted to masculinity. They think its cool when women act like men. They  think its cool when they curse and swear or even burp. Look at how many women drive trucks these days. 

Nothing makes me more sick then seeing a woman act like this. And they are the majority.

 

The man I look up to for these issues is Marc Rudov. He sets it stright.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8V1s-NVOhY&list=PLSRJuw714FtI8fZMOcZqjiCtXn2ktQliE&index=9

[laowai]

Why do videos like this get so much interest while Stefans videos about real issues that will affect us and our society get hardly any views, it makes me want to give up on my society...

 

[Koroviev]

Why do videos like this get so much interest while Stefans videos about real issues that will affect us and our society get hardly any views, it makes me want to give up on my society...

 

 

I'd suggest giving up on their society and try to bring others into yours 

[Donnadogsoth]

 

Hot on the heels of Katy Perrys 'Roar' music video; in which a tiger kills her male companion and she then goes on to demonstrate her independence by embodying the very thing that killed him- the tiger. To Taylor Swift's music video 'Blank Space' which sees Swift bashing up her boyfriends and trying to kill them at times.

 

Now we have prominent pop diva Lorde graphically killing a man in her new music video 'Disclosure'.

 

And what is most disturbing, Lorde admits she has had this fantasy since she was 18 and has envisioned doing this to real boyfriends. Scary.

 

So I am watching TV and noticed a lot of shows revolve around violence against men, which popular culture is ok with and nobody ever complains about. Sure you may easily dismiss it as an innocent action sequence against a faceless man- but isn't that the whole point? That men are portrayed as these disposable things who we have no problem with depicting the death of for our entertainment. Isn't this all kind of a little sick? I mean you always see this or that man being killed or attacked in some high octane action adventure drama; yet you never see women killed in similar circumstances. Usually when women are killed on TV they have at least been humanized before hand so we feel a loss when they die; yet with men we just see them as these dehumanized non-entities who are expected to be killed like worthless sacks of skin and bone, and we are conditioned to see this as normal and not feel any loss when they die.

 

And what makes this all the more worse is that everyone only focuses on violence against women; yet the majority of what we see on TV and in Movies is violence against men.

 

When you think about it, I mean really think about it, movie studios and television producers are profiting massively from depictions of violence against men. How is this acceptable in a modern humane society? Especially in the context of the way we deal with violence against women.

 

Kind of feeling like there is no hope for men in the world right now.

 

Why is it ok for women, lets remember these are GROWN WOMEN; to make such videos that celebrate, perpetuate and profit from depictions of violence against men; ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW SOCIETY REACTS TO VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN!

 

Why is this type of behavior by women celebrated, yet if the roles were reversed such a thing would be seen as domestic violence. Women can't be strong and independent without resorting to hateful attacks against men- why is this? Why is it when women get into positions of power they have to behave in a way that is hateful to men?

 

I mean in the past women were not allowed to vote etc, but you never saw men actively running campaigns of hate towards women.

 

 

And it's not hard to see why, with Kiwi singer Lorde, 18, showing off her darker side in the raunchy clip.

From kissing a married man to later setting him on fire, it seems Lorde has enjoyed playing an onscreen vixen, tweeting: 'One of my life goals has always been "to one day play a hitgirl who pretends to seduce then burns alive douchey boyfriends (sic)."

 

Lorde, real name is Ella Marija Lani Yelich-O'Connor, first stuns on-screen in a plunging white dress as she cavorts around a party at a Los Angeles mansion.

 

She's then seen canoodling with the married man as tensions appear to rise between him and his partner.

At one point the other woman turns near a window with what looks to have a black eye.

 

While it appears Lorde's character is having an affair, she later dons a shiny leather trench coat as she looks at the wife, implying they are working together to avenge the man, before pushing him into the pool and setting him alight.

 

Lorde tweeted she not only played a 'hitgirl' but also implied the woman was the subject of domestic violence and that's why her character was around. 

'The most important part of the video is when you see her black eye as she turns away at the window.. hope it all makes sense from that point,' she tweeted.

 

She also retweeted a picture post about the black eye, which in part read: 'That's the point the whole video hinges on / takes it from being "an affair narrative" to being "dude's girlfriend hired miss ella the hit girl to 'seduce' him then take him the F**K out. (sic)"

She then later thanked fans for '1,000,000 views in 1 day, thanks beejs (sic).'

 

Lorde is known for her hits including Royals and Tennis Court and was discovered at just 12-years-old.

 

She's had a number of gongs under her belt, including Grammys and Billboard Music Awards. 

She is currently dating long-term boyfriend James Lowe, who she has been with for more than two years.

 

source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3255601/Lorde-seduces-married-man-sets-fire-embraces-dark-raunchy-new-video-Disclosure.html

 

 

This isn't just a sex issue, it's an issue of general lowering of standards of crassness and grossness and violence. The immolation and general violence against men is not shocking but tends toward the amusing, as we see male power get inverted by slapstick, whether it's knees to the package, or exploding limbs.

 

Furthermore, men are the evolutionary and historical bad guys. Not much chance, even at this late date, of fighting an army of chicks. Thus we're programmed to find satisfaction in the annihilation of our male enemies. The twist is that now chicks are getting off on revealing their fantasies not of slapping a man, but of torture-murdering him.

 

Lighting someone on fire in a movie was unheard of and nigh unthinkable fifty years ago.  Now it's a known thing, and that it has migrated to a girly-pop video is another notch down. But, it's also her fantasy, so it's okay, although male fantasies of immolating cheating girlfriends remain unthinkable.

 

The cries of hypocrisy by the red pill community are always going to fall on deaf ears because everyone knows that women aren't the same as men.  They're human, but they're also female.  Men are the source of power and have voluntarily relinquished that power, letting women grow increasingly wilder as they seek to use the power they're given to disorientate men.

 

I'll say it again: Men are the source of power, and what power women get they use against men. Hypocrisy has nothing to do with it, we're dealing with two different Types of people.  They're human, but insofar as they're acting female qua female, as opposed to human qua human, they'll tend to act like this, including at the ballot box.

 

EDIT:  I want to say here with more clarity if possible that I'm speaking about instincts.  Humans are capable, if properly educated, of rising to the level of reason, transcending instinctual excess, and thus charges of hypocrisy are warranted against people who would treat the sexes differently.  What level of residual instinct should be maintained (e.g. heterosexuality in the majority), and how that translates into policy, remains to be established.