J. D. Stembal Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Dr. Rhonda Patrick Interviews Wim Hof, who endorses natural approaches to health and wellness, including hyperventilation and cold shock therapy. I'm going to swim in the Dillon reservoir tomorrow morning, and hopefully not drown.What are your thoughts on the presentation, FDR? 2
McBeer Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 I just listened to Joe Rogan interview him. Pretty interesting stuff.
Dermot Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Hi J.D I'm listening now. I watched his vice documentary and joe rogan podcast yesterday. I'm trying some of the breathing exercises and find them good so far. I think this stuff has huge value. It can really change your state. The fact that he's using science and getting results is great. The trauma from his wife's suicide has had a huge impact. I'd love to hear your thoughts if you get time to watch it. 2
Carl Green Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 His altruism and commitment to improving the world are very inspiring. He's one of my favorite people in the world. 1
Lars Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Based on that interview, I don't think Wim Hof is very credible. He uses scientific buzz-words to obscure rank mysticism. I'm all for unleashing one's potential, just not by hyperventilating and freezing yourself to death.I wonder what James Randi has to say about him.
Dermot Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 That's cool carl, and its all coming from him working on himself and sticking with it. It has taken like 25 years for the science to get on board.
BD91 Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Based on that interview, I don't think Wim Hof is very credible. He uses scientific buzz-words to obscure rank mysticism. I'm all for unleashing one's potential, just not by hyperventilating and freezing yourself to death. I wonder what James Randi has to say about him. But he doesn't freeze to death. That's kind of the linchpin to his credibility, there's tons of videos of him performing these feats live and I'm sure if you looked into the research he mentioned you would find the data to back up the claims. 1
Lars Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 But he doesn't freeze to death. That's kind of the linchpin to his credibility, there's tons of videos of him performing these feats live and I'm sure if you looked into the research he mentioned you would find the data to back up the claims. It's not like scientists haven't been fooled before. I will look into it further, though remain incredibly skeptical.
J. D. Stembal Posted October 23, 2015 Author Posted October 23, 2015 I took a little swim this morning. Would anyone care to come up and join me for some fun and frostbite?https://youtu.be/B-si9ubugRM
AccuTron Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Really enjoyed the OP video. The guy is spot on to what I've experienced, and I learned a lot more. I've learned that physical pain (skin injury at least) can be willed away, or at least kept at bay a good while. I've learned that I can ignore the urge to get air when swimming underwater (in a pool). I've been spoiled of late but recall earlier years in less well heated rural dwellings, that along with physical movement, kept me feeling primed. I've been somewhat conservative with winter heating, but may knock it down even more this year.
J. D. Stembal Posted October 23, 2015 Author Posted October 23, 2015 It's not like scientists haven't been fooled before. I will look into it further, though remain incredibly skeptical. How about you try it out and see how it works for you. Meet your skepticism headlong with experiential data.
J. D. Stembal Posted October 23, 2015 Author Posted October 23, 2015 Hi J.D I'm listening now. I watched his vice documentary and joe rogan podcast yesterday. I'm trying some of the breathing exercises and find them good so far. I think this stuff has huge value. It can really change your state. The fact that he's using science and getting results is great. The trauma from his wife's suicide has had a huge impact. I'd love to hear your thoughts if you get time to watch it. This is amazing evidence for natural therapies for disease. We need to get this idea that modern medicine always has the answer off the table. I hosted a man who was diagnosed with Crohn's disease at 13, and has spent the last ten years on immunosurpressants. His disease is in remission, but he is now making the choice to fix his nutrition by eating more fermented foods and cutting out the processed garbage food, and reducing his dosage against his gastroenterologist's advice. This man is so brave and I am cheering for him. I hope that he will watch this video and consider using heat or cold shock therapy. It has already done wonders for my body and mind!
Lars Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 If something bizarre is in fact going on, I'm far more inclined to consider him a unique case rather than someone we should all emulate. 1
bugzysegal Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 If something bizarre is in fact going on, I'm far more inclined to consider him a unique case rather than someone we should all emulate. He's replicated his results with others.
Losilluminati Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 If something bizarre is in fact going on, I'm far more inclined to consider him a unique case rather than someone we should all emulate. In research done by Radboud University (The Netherlands) Wim Hof trained a group of 12 volunteers to prove the immune system can be modulated.[14][15] He had already proven in 2011 the ability to control his own immune system. [16] [17] There was a control group of 12 other people who did not practice his method before the experiment. They were injected with endotoxins which would produce flu like symptoms in a normal person. From watching the documentary about him, you can see he is pretty confident that he isnt a special case and that he can teach what he practices. My biggest beef with Wim Hof is that he claims his method can cure all diseases(hopefully there will be more studies in the future on this) In fact there is another person who crushed some of Wims world records and he has his own breathing/focusing techniques. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stig_Severinsen Personally im 3 days in on taking only cold showers and im loving it. There seems to be a learning curve to this whole breathing thing but hopefully with consistent practice ill see some objective results. Would really come in handy here in Canada land where it gets -30C in a few months.
Losilluminati Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Another interesting interview with Wim Hof on Tim Ferriss's podcast http://fourhourworkweek.com/2015/09/07/the-iceman-wim-hof/
J. D. Stembal Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 Another interesting interview with Wim Hof on Tim Ferriss's podcast http://fourhourworkweek.com/2015/09/07/the-iceman-wim-hof/ It popped up on my YT feed today. In addition to breathing and cold shock therapy, Wim has been practicing intermittent fasting for the past 35 years. I find this very inspiring as I've been doing IR on and off for the past few years, and I credit it for much of my fat loss.
J. D. Stembal Posted November 30, 2015 Author Posted November 30, 2015 If you cannot get enough Dr. Rhonda Patrick, like me, here's another video which discusses the science of breathing, meditation and cold shock therapy. 1
Kurtis Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 If you cannot get enough Dr. Rhonda Patrick, like me, here's another video which discusses the science of breathing, meditation and cold shock therapy. Just listened to this one over the weekend... Powerful stuff.
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