Wuzzums Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 You said: a pretty good chance a pedophile is also a criminal Now you are recanting that ? You're either trolling or have no idea how logic and words work. 1
Flying Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 Ever notice how Russia is one of the only places not hit but the joke show of western political correctness and specifically the western PC take on gays and pedophilia ? Look at what Putin said.. Putin to Gays: Leave Kids Alone and You'll Be Safe - The ...www.advocate.com/.../putin-gays-leave-kids-alone-and-youll-be-safe-0 Jan 17, 2014 - The Russian president contends LGBT people will be welcome in Sochi for the Winter Olympics, as long as they don't try to speak to children. 2
Flying Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 You're either trolling or have no idea how logic and words work. There is someone who doesn't know how logic works and its not me. You have not yet given a logical reason why you are sympathetic toward homosexuals. I have a logical reason why I am sympathetic to them. I know that western PC logic just simply states that homosexuality is not even something to be sympathetic to because the logic convinces a person that homosexuality is just normal and equal to heterosexuality. But I know that under that ruse, it is still based on sympathy. 2
Flying Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 I never said such a thing, in fact I have stated the exact opposite. You might be arguing with some alternate version of me that did, which will explain why you're so confused. Are you seriously trying to shame me for holding back empathy towards people that wanna fuck children? A little bit of work and your posts could make the basis of a killer stand-up routine. Do you really think that religious people or anti gay people in Russia or Ukraine are just evil bastards for not having empathy toward gays ? I got redded 7 times in one post and I'm seeing reds in various other posts. This is a forum you joined. If you disagree with something I've said then why not engage in discussion ? Anyone.. Why do you have empathy toward gays ? Or do you not have empathy because you believe that they are normal ? I am not trolling. I just have no idea how people are drawing to some of these conclusions. These are complex issues. 2
Flying Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 More reds, still no replies. Deer in headlights moment for some people.. It is a logical contradiction to disapprove or slander Russians (75% do not approve of homosexuality) for not having empathy for gays and at the same time, have no empathy for born pedophiles yourself. Because Russians and the anti gay community believe that there is a biological connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. And I have provided some of the evidence for that and can provide more. If you claim to have empathy for people with disorders, then you would have to have empathy for all disorders. Homosexuality, pedophilia, autism ect. If you do not have empathy for one then you cannot claim to have empathy for disorders. If you claim to have no empathy for pedophiles then you cant claim empathy for homosexuals because there is evidence that there is a connection between the 2. So. You either have to make an argument that homosexuality is normal and is not a disorder. Or you have to make an argument that there is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia.
Sima Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 hmm, stefan answers this question in podcast 1113, start with 1112 maybe. Will explain a lot and much more, then you and us were discussing in this topic.
J. D. Stembal Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 More reds, still no replies. Deer in headlights moment for some people.. It is a logical contradiction to disapprove or slander Russians (75% do not approve of homosexuality) for not having empathy for gays and at the same time, have no empathy for born pedophiles yourself. Because Russians and the anti gay community believe that there is a biological connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. And I have provided some of the evidence for that and can provide more. If you claim to have empathy for people with disorders, then you would have to have empathy for all disorders. Homosexuality, pedophilia, autism ect. If you do not have empathy for one then you cannot claim to have empathy for disorders. If you claim to have no empathy for pedophiles then you cant claim empathy for homosexuals because there is evidence that there is a connection between the 2. So. You either have to make an argument that homosexuality is normal and is not a disorder. Or you have to make an argument that there is no connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. I'll bite, troll or no. How strong is the correlation between homosexuality and child rape? How strong is the correlation between heterosexuality and child rape? Please include genital mutilation statistics in this comparison of the data because it is also child rape. You are presenting a false dichotomy, as it stands, and we have as yet no evidence for the assertion that child rape is positively linked to homosexuals. If Lloyd Demause's The Origins of War in Child Abuse is factually accurate, child abuse, including cannibalism, mutilation, and child rape, is prevalent at all levels of society now and throughout our recorded history. Asserting that homosexuality is linked to child rape misses the point of how evil and prevalent child abuse really is. I doubt that it's factually accurate, at least not until I see air-tight statistics. 1
Flying Posted November 13, 2015 Author Posted November 13, 2015 My choice to have homosexual sex was political? What does that mean? How do you know why I chose to do that? Modern psychiatry also prescribes dangerous drugs to treat the disorders that they identify, so I do not give much credence to their diagnostic capabilities. By the logic you presented, if I take risque pictures of high school and middle school students, it's not pedophilia as long as they have large breasts and posteriors? What measurements and cup sizes are the cut off? I know some men that prefer small breasts and small rear ends, regardless of the age. Does that make them pedophiles, as well? What is the criteria for identifying a female pedophile? Is focusing on the muscular jocks not pedophilia because they appear to look like full grown men? My choice to have homosexual sex was political? What does that mean? How do you know why I chose to do that? I am guessing it was political. You probably would not have tried it if you were in Russia. But since the gay movement it the west promotes homosexuality as normal, some men are trying it. Modern psychiatry also prescribes dangerous drugs to treat the disorders that they identify, so I do not give much credence to their diagnostic capabilities. It was not modern psychiatry that classified homosexuality as a disorder. It was traditional psychiatry. By the logic you presented, if I take risque pictures of high school and middle school students, it's not pedophilia as long as they have large breasts and posteriors? What measurements and cup sizes are the cut off? I know some men that prefer small breasts and small rear ends, regardless of the age. Does that make them pedophiles, as well? What is the criteria for identifying a female pedophile? Is focusing on the muscular jocks not pedophilia because they appear to look like full grown men? Im not saying that I have all the answers. You are kinda implying that most men are into the young ones. But its not like barely legal is the best selling skin mag out there. MILF mags probably outsell barely legal. I actually know that "big tits" is the most widely used porn search phrase. Makes sense since most men are heterosexual. But I am guessing that barely legal satisfies the guys out there who value youth/fertility the most. I personally prefer a mature looking woman with curves. And the barely legals don't do it for me at all. When you mentioned barely legal, you said "18-20 year old MODELS. When we think of models we mean females. At least I do. So that is the cue I used to imply that you meant females. Or when you said MODELS, did you mean male or female models ? So to sum it up, I think the barely legals you mentioned are not pedophilic. If they were barely legals involving boys, that would be different. Because boys have no reproductive features. Not even a hint of reproductive features. BTW you have been pretty brave in what you are saying. I could easily make this about you like other posters are about me. But I wont stoop that low.
dsayers Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 You are kinda implying that most men are into the young ones. You said this in response to a series of questions. Meaning you didn't address the questions and again put words into somebody's mouth. This lack of integrity is why you're getting downvoted. I could easily make this about you like other posters are about me. But I wont stoop that low. When you tell somebody they're implying something when they ask questions (instead of answering those questions), you are making it about them. When you claim you are above other people, you are "stooping that low."
Flying Posted November 14, 2015 Author Posted November 14, 2015 You said this in response to a series of questions. Meaning you didn't address the questions and again put words into somebody's mouth. This lack of integrity is why you're getting downvoted. When you tell somebody they're implying something when they ask questions (instead of answering those questions), you are making it about them. When you claim you are above other people, you are "stooping that low." I don't care that I am getting downvotes other then I think its petty to disagree with someone yet not say anything about it. Your replies have been rank with condescension. Anyway I keep re-reading replies to try and get a sense of how people are processing this. This one sticks out. "If by "normal" you mean "undamaged," then I would argue that somebody who is attracted to or aroused by the pre-pubescent form and doesn't molest children IS normal. Because it would indicate empathy." How is the highlighted not simply counterfactual ? Which means you lose the argument. Somebody who is attracted or aroused by the pre-pubesent form IS NOT NORMAL. It means they have the disorder, factually known as PEDOPHILIA. Because that is the definition of pedophilia. And that is the basis of my argument once again. Why do people think that I am sticking up for pedophiles ? I am sticking up for NORMAL people. Because NORMAL people are not susceptible to molesting children. Which means child molestation CANNOT be classified as a common crime because only those with a disorder are susceptible to doing it. There is no corresponding disorder to go with any common crimes. Like robbery, murder, ect. 1
neeeel Posted November 14, 2015 Posted November 14, 2015 Somebody who is attracted or aroused by the pre-pubesent form IS NOT NORMAL. It means they have the disorder, factually known as PEDOPHILIA. Because that is the definition of pedophilia. And that is the basis of my argument once again. Why do people think that I am sticking up for pedophiles ? I am sticking up for NORMAL people. Because NORMAL people are not susceptible to molesting children. I think this is wrong. As JD points out, show me an adult male who doesnt find (teenage, at least) girls attractive , and I will show you a liar. So, unless you are going to say that attraction to teenage girls is not pedophilia, then normal people DO actually have an attraction to children. 1
Flying Posted November 14, 2015 Author Posted November 14, 2015 I think this is wrong. As JD points out, show me an adult male who doesnt find (teenage, at least) girls attractive , and I will show you a liar. So, unless you are going to say that attraction to teenage girls is not pedophilia, then normal people DO actually have an attraction to children. Pedophilia cannot exist if normal people are all pedophiles. Pedophilia is by definition, a disorder. If it was normal then how could it be defined as a disorder ? Males may find teen girls attractive but more of them find mature women more attractive. In porn searches, milf or mom beats teen searches. Look at the most popular porn stars. Lisa Ann is the most popular porn star in the US and Canada. So no. Male attraction to teen girls is not pedophilia.
J. D. Stembal Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 I am guessing it was political. You probably would not have tried it if you were in Russia. But since the gay movement it the west promotes homosexuality as normal, some men are trying it. It was not modern psychiatry that classified homosexuality as a disorder. It was traditional psychiatry. Im not saying that I have all the answers. You are kinda implying that most men are into the young ones. But its not like barely legal is the best selling skin mag out there. MILF mags probably outsell barely legal. I actually know that "big tits" is the most widely used porn search phrase. Makes sense since most men are heterosexual. But I am guessing that barely legal satisfies the guys out there who value youth/fertility the most. I personally prefer a mature looking woman with curves. And the barely legals don't do it for me at all. When you mentioned barely legal, you said "18-20 year old MODELS. When we think of models we mean females. At least I do. So that is the cue I used to imply that you meant females. Or when you said MODELS, did you mean male or female models ? So to sum it up, I think the barely legals you mentioned are not pedophilic. If they were barely legals involving boys, that would be different. Because boys have no reproductive features. Not even a hint of reproductive features. BTW you have been pretty brave in what you are saying. I could easily make this about you like other posters are about me. But I wont stoop that low. What about a deep voice, hair, muscles and physical strength?
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