Freedomain Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 MP3: http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3132/the-truth-about-the-syrian-refugee-controversySoundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/stefan-molyneux/fdr-3132-the-truth-about-the-syrian-refugee-controversyOn the heels of the Paris Terrorist Attack and new ISIS threats against the United States, the American people are beginning to ask questions about the intake of Syrian refugees.The United States is currently taking in 10,000 Syrian refugees and President Barack Obama has commented about taking in 100,000 refugees total (not just from Syria) in each of the next two years.The Governors of 31 U.S. States are refusing to take any additional refugees from Syria – and others are demanding additional information on the efficacy of any screening procedures.On November 19th, the U.S. House of Representatives approved legislation requiring new screening of Middle Eastern refugees. President Barack Obama threatened to veto the legislation, but the 289-137 vote - including 47 Democrats - is enough to override any veto attempt and these concerns cross party lines.What is the Truth About The Syrian Refugee Controversy?Freedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at: http://www.fdrurl.com/donate Sources Syrian Refugee Controversyhttp://news.yahoo.com/attackers-used-refugee-crisis-slip-france-pm-200055808.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.htmlhttp://thehill.com/homenews/house/260782-house-defies-obama-approves-bill-halting-syrian-refugeeshttp://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/report-8-syrians-caught-at-texas-border-in-laredo/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/18/repeat-after-me-obama-is-not-admitting-100000-200000-or-250000-syrian-refugees/http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/11/18/31-states-north-dakota-joins-majority-of-governors-refusing-to-relocate-syrian-refugees-cites-security-concerns-n2082522http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151116/1030184464/eu-refugees-isil.html#ixzz3rekugSbP http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-09-09.htmlAmerican Opinion Poll: Should The United States Accept Syrian Refugees?http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-11-18/bloomberg-poll-most-americans-oppose-syrian-refugee-resettlementThe High Cost of Resettling Middle Eastern Refugeeshttp://www.cis.org/High-Cost-of-Resettling-Middle-Eastern-Refugeeshttp://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/camarota-refugees-15_0.pdfWelfare Use by Legal and Illegal Immigrant Householdshttp://www.cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Native-Householdshttp://www.cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Householdshttp://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/camarota-welfare-illegals_1.pdfhttp://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/camarota-welfare-final.pdf
Mattertea Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Why does the CIS always seem to contradict the findings of CATO? "Low-income non-citizen adults and children generally have lower rates of public benefit use than native-born adults or citizen children whose parents are also citizens. Moreover, when low-income non-citizens receive public benefits, the average value of benefits per recipient is almost always lower than for the native-born." http://www.cato.org/publications/economic-development-bulletin/poor-immigrants-use-public-benefits-lower-rate-poor
Mattertea Posted November 24, 2015 Posted November 24, 2015 If you read Dr. Camarota's reports it explains how/why the CATO data is wrong and he also does some debunking/rebuttals in the below interview:{snip}If you use data sets which underreport welfare usage, look a individual usage instead of household usage and count anchor baby welfare benefits as citizen usage then you can maipulate the data to say something unreflective of reality. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, their study even adjusts for income... which makes absolutely zero sense. Thats like trying to find out who is the tallest group and normalizing for shoe size, it flattens out the data and distorts it. Dr. Camarota's work is well worth reading, it includes tons of detailed notes and explanation of his methadology and the errors of other approaches. Thanks for showing me this - I really was scratching my head at this major discrepancy. I missed this interview. I would like to follow up and ask what you think of this private solution to the syrian refugee crisis - "Private sponsorships in Canada have helped resettle more than 200,000 refugees since the program was created in 1979." https://mises.org/blog/private-solution-syrian-refugee-crisis I believe that in a free society, free people should be able to travel between geographic regions, freely, especially when there is an individual or group on the other side willing to voluntarily accept them into their home and support them for them for up to 12 months or until they are independent, whichever comes first. People who want to make a better life for themselves should be welcome, as my family did in 1890. Hell, I'd probably have never been born and my family would have been slaughtered by Nazi's if they hadn't immigrated when they did. A lot of fear mongering and false information went around about how some of the Jewish refugees escaping the Nazis were actually secretly Nazi Spies. I am seeing very similar fear mongering about Muslims escaping a terrible situation - that they are all terrorists, even though they are actually fleeing the terrorist groups that the US helped create. Even though forced wealth redistribution is a drain on resources and progress, the welfare issue is, to me, not nearly as important as the military industrial complex, which is by far, the biggest welfare recipient on the planet. Not to mention the fact that every bomb that gets dropped likely creates dozens more future terrorists. The biggest problem is Intervention. If the US just stopped intervening it would stop making things worse!
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