The Practical Impossibility of Integration for Middle Eastern Migrants

[Quadrewple]

I listened to the recent call "An Honest Conversation with a Middle Eastern Immigrant" and I was thinking about what he was saying about critical theory, and how the logic of that applies to these widespread sexual assaults.

 

The amount of work the average Middle Eastern migrant young man would have to do in order to have even half the sexual market value of the average native born European man is essentially impossible and I'll try and make that case. 

 

Not only would they have to learn the new language and become proficient (requiring an intense dedication to integrate, a staggering amount of time, and a substantial amount of intelligence), not only would they have to unlearn everything they knew about their old cultures' model of sexuality and dating, not only would they have to learn everything they could about the Western worlds' model of sexuality and dating (which is difficult enough for native borns, let alone native borns which have been traumatized to the degree most of these migrants have, let alone native borns which have been traumatized to the degree most of these migrants have AND who have poor language proficiency or are outright illiterate), but they face all the psychological evolutionary pressures of spending all this time which cannot be spent reproducing.

 

When evolutionary pressure was at its highest, humans were not living past their 20's.  To fundamentally change or reverse ones reproductive strategy in their 20's means facing and overcoming the fear of not being able to reproduce (something which I've unfortunately experienced firsthand).  The fear of not being able to reproduce is essentially the same as the fear of death.  Asking or expecting statistically unintelligent people to subconsciously face death and a mind-bending amount of hard work for a potential payoff 10-15 years later is completely insane. 

• And we have to include the fact that these people do not understand evolutionary psychology (or psychology in general) so they probably aren't even consciously aware of why integration would be so massively hard and in many cases impossible.
• And we have to include the fact that a significant portion of this 10-15 year process would have to be funded by the Europeans willingly, without massive protests and chaos erupting from peoples' resentment about having their wages sucked away from them for an essentially impossible project - Project Integration.  This is assuming the economies/currencies don't collapse before that time.
• And we have to include the fact that even if they did master the language and learn how to mimic the courtship process, their beliefs about freedom, religion, and gender equality are going to be absolutely reprehensible to European women.
• And we have to include the fact that even after this 10-15 year process, they are still going to be at an massive SMV disadvantage compared to native born Europeans who instead of reworking their entire neural pathways have been building social skills, career skills, and wealth.

     

 

Basically, in order for these migrants to obtain a reasonable sexual market value it would take them being geniuses (despite probably 20-25% of them being in the learning impaired range of IQ), having the courage of Socrates (despite severe anti-Socratic influence in their host societies for centuries), and having the dedication to make it all happen, knowing it could take 10+ years, all of which they could've spent reproducing by any means necessary (including rape).  It's as close to an impossible task as I think you can get in terms of expectations for humans.  I could go and on and on.

 

Not a day goes by that this crisis of coercion does not cross my mind, concern, and frighten me - even though I don't live in Europe.  It is in my extreme fortune that I live at least a couple of hours from anywhere in California which accepted these migrants and that the US so far has taken in a relatively small proportion of migrants compared to the population of the US as a whole.  My heart goes out to everyone in Europe who has had this catastrophe forced onto them now and for generations to come.....

[Anuojat]

Well id say the FEAR is natural and expected, yet it is the very things that can paralyze. Hence why here in Finland there is an aura of skeptism and not AS bad idiot openness and naivete that has plaqued other European countrie ala the Multiculturism virus.

 

But there are few thigns that give me relief and chief among them is the fact that these people all lie to themselves. Theyre not demons from hell of unspeakable monsters by "nature" theyve been raised and now believe in things that are false and bad for themselves and others.

 

They lie to themselves. Fundamentally this gives me relief because it makes it SO painfully obvious after the paris attacks and rape statistcs that for every idiot leftist apologist for this immigration there is atleast 3 Muslims proving them wrong.

 

And also i pity these people, ive seen the cynical, tired and scared faces on many older immgrants and also feelings of frustration among the younger ones who seem lost. Sense of direction in life for many young muslims/immigrant to be out of grasp. (This is from about 15-30 groups of such people in my area all from differant bakgrounds and countries and also from differant group appoaches to one another.)

 

Many previously "foreigh" people take identity similiar to african americans even if they were originally from not america at all... even muslims and former muslims.

 

I get the distinct sense that while such agression, rape and violance is inherited from the vile religion and antihuman bbeliefs of Islam and the not so rational cultures of Africa and middle east... i think many people coming are in search of identity even if they do GHETTOFY (and minority dont).

[Guest Gee]

I think it is even more than this.

The degree to which peoples identity is simply compliance to abuse a.k.a. the false self being that part of you which adapts to external threat and then forgets about the existence of said threat and the degree of violence in immigrant cultures closed the case for me. 

Because integrating into our superior culture (oh yes, I just said that) then requires a capacity for introspection and self knowledge (to overcome the stripping away of the false self identity) which must be so great that if it existed within such populations of people then their native cultures could not be philosophical paradises.

So more than all the reasons listed above, I think integration into our culture requires the complete reinvention of the identity of each and every immigrant. 

 

I also think this is why values can not be passed to adults.

 

p.s. if anyone knows how to provoke an existential crisis in another such that they launch upon a philosophical and intellectual exploration culminating in a re-evaluation of their actual identity do tell.