rosencrantz Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jot Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Is this Go? Also, are you a good player of renju/gomoku? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Is this referring to the AI beating the current human champion?This is pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb23rd Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Out of the left field indeed. To my understanding Googles deepmind is still a supervised ai meaning that a true ai as depicted on Hollywood films is yet to beat a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosencrantz Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Is this referring to the AI beating the current human champion? Yeah, it's a spoof on the AI game. Also, are you a good player of renju/gomoku? I liked playing that a lot. However, it has been found that there is a winning strategy for black. I read that the AI played on its own. In the last few years we began to rely heavily on neuronal networks in areas that require a lot of computation, say the computation of mechanical parts or the development of new drugs. The problem there is that we can't comprehend the reason why the neuronal network chose one approach over another. We only see the result but the network does not give any reason why it preferred A over B. The reason why the AI won seems to be, that it used both decision trees and learning. It could take moves into account that could be bad, but in reality give you an advantage. A human player does not take those into accout so we are at an disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jot Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I liked playing that a lot. However, it has been found that there is a winning strategy for black. Gomoku is solved for black on 13x13 or larger board, the winning strategy is called SW (sure win) and it never fails if you know all the variations, which are now that few trust me... By convention, good players do not SW one another, SW is only possible I believe if and only if black's second move is to place his second stone near his first one. Good players make their second move always in the 3x3 area that encapsulates the first stone but does not actually connect with it. Renju is the professional version of Gomoku, it has several restrictions for black which are believed to equal out the parties....I don't really like renju that much because it feels like you are playing a totally different game as black... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosencrantz Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 By convention, good players do not SW one another, SW is only possible I believe if and only if black's second move is to place his second stone near his first one. Good players make their second move always in the 3x3 area that encapsulates the first stone but does not actually connect with it. I played it like crazy when I was 14 to 15. Good to know it's still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jot Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I played it like crazy when I was 14 to 15. Good to know it's still around. On which website did you play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosencrantz Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 I played with my father and a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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