bootoo Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 The 2nd amendment is clear, the government may not infringe on your right to bear arms People want guns for protection, hunting and recreation - ~120 million people in America have guns, <8000 use them for crimes - the most extreme gun control advocates want the government to punish the 120 million to control the 8000 Luckily the government is constitutionally restricted from taking such action, however something has to be done about the 8000 who use guns for crimes and we know its not moral or wise to sell a rocket launcher to a middle schooler from chicago This is a chance for libertarians and anarchists to take the lead and solve this issue and give the best example of making government obsolete - People can voluntarily choose who to sell guns to, people can require standards be met before a manufacturer sells to a retailer or before a retailer sells to a customer Raise money voluntarily - work with manufacturers and retailers to set up gun control designed to shut out the 8000 without fucking over the 120 million - Set up networks with mental health service providers, with law enforcement agencies, and use this next level profiling technology to run checks not only on the customer but people in the household, in the family and in the greater community, but keep mind of the reason for the 2nd amendment, make customer information as secure as possible, only make the information available to the government by warrant Then raise more money from all interested parties to regulate and provide oversight to the system - the customers and greater community have an interest in bad guys NOT getting guns, the retailers and manufacturers have an interest in ensuring everyone is playing by the rules and no one is getting undercut We can hold each other accountable through voluntarily NOT doing business with assholes that dont meet required standards, we dont need to use the force to of the state, we need to provide the best experience and most efficient low cost process and communicate the benefits and results - thats how you win There are lots of good ideas when it comes to gun control - we already know if you take out the 'chicagos' the suicide and the cop shootings America has a comparable murder/crime rate as other developed nations with and without gun control - why not have the best record?
12StringSamurai Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 Where does your 8,000 number come from? The ratio of law abiding to criminal gun owners is a helpful persuasive tool, and a source would help. Thanks!
dsayers Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 Luckily the government is constitutionally restricted from taking such action ?! The problem with pointing to a piece of paper in place of an argument is that all they have to do is write down something different. You don't have the right to own a firearm because somebody once wrote that you do; Rather because humans do not exist in different, opposing moral categories. Everything else is obfuscation meant to distract people from questioning the validity of the throne.
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