SJWs in comics

[jamcity]

The SJW leak in the comic book industry has been taken to a laughable level that I would like to catalog and share with you.  

I'm no expert on any part of comics so I will just go about listing what I have observed, including comic characters in popular media.  Before I get into that I just one to point out that I have always felt that Marvel vs DC had a left/right dichotomy- to put it short DC stories show man is not angels while Marvel attempts to create angels.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now let me take you through what I've come across...
Green Arrow Rebirth #1 - best selling Green Arrow comic ever off the hype of the Arrow (TV Series)
Who is this new Arrow?  I'll quote I'll on this one
"I prefer the company of the streets.  I prefer the job description of social justice warrior."
Well I guess this is what I get for blindly buying from the new DC line instead of just sticking to DKIII.

That's on the last panel of page 3.. I don't think you will make that far so just glance at page #1 and I'm sure you will understand why I'm writing this.
http://www.readcomics.net/green-arrow-rebirth/chapter-1/4
 

 

Okay... so Green Arrow Rebirth is going to be a dud... Can still get caught up on Arrow, right? 
Visits /r/Arrow... sees MARVEL DAREDEVIL
It would seem as though the Arrow fans have gone into revolt over how poor the past season was.
Although I'm 2 seasons behind this thread seems to explain everything; 
https://www.reddit.com/r/arrow/comments/4nk5jy/s4_donna_smoak_has_now_had_more_screentime_in_the/?st=iqbxctgq&sh=46bdce71
Now I don't know who Donna Smoak is... cause she was never in any Green Arrow comics.. she also spoiler alert hasn't been introduced yet in the show until season 3.  no idea what role she plays.. but people are not liking it.

 

This Donna Smoak character is not unlike something that happened in a DC show I am current on.  Gotham. In Gotham there is another newly created for TV character, Fish Mooney.  She seems incredibly out of place on the streets of Gotham.  With hardly any indication of martial training or athleticism her skill is apparently seducing people... did I mention she is black and bi?  I'm she you can see why she had to be made for tv.
Set up as Penguin's foil it kind of makes sense. Penguins eat fish.
But there is already a Fish character in the Batman universe. Arkham Asylum: Living Hell gives us a really great story of him.  An embezzler sent to Arkham all of the worst say, "your the worst person i've ever met" he undergoes a really brutal time in Arkham eventually learning from it all to rule the place...  Fish Mooney? Couldn't tell you.




 

Nothing spectacular from DC Rebirth, continue reading old DC like when the joker became khoemini's iranian ambassador to the un and walked past guards into the place with a bomb strap to his chest while batman is going, 'stop him he's gonna blow the place up', superman has to explain to batman the politics of it.
http://pm1.narvii.com/5791/c6b26d9c0c51d7b6f1f5923548557eaeecc791f6_hq.jpg






Honestly this thread would of never been made if it weren't for the Washington Post today.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2016/07/06/iron-man-will-soon-be-a-young-black-woman-named-riri-williams-but-not-everyone-is-satisfied/

This is really want I want to share.  At this point my commentary isn't needed anymore.  I'll leave that WaPo article for you to fully appreciate.




Bonus post
SJWs freak out that DC won't let Batwoman 'gay marry'... because DC has a ban on any of their characters 'marrying'
http://io9.gizmodo.com/dc-wont-allow-batwomans-gay-marriage-to-be-depicted-1257106266

[Will Torbald]

SJW's are a tiny minority, but they have the loudest voices, ans the angriest mobs. This leads publishers to appease them and force diversity, but the people who actually read and buy comics aren't buying it, literally. Marvel has always had diverse heroes, but the problem is when they replace white heroes with POC. Imagine if Marvel replaced Black Panther with a Japanese teenager. There would be pandemonium. Replace a white character (like they did with Spiderman, Captain America, the Human Torch, Thor, Ms Marvel) with a POC or a woman and it's great! Like Stef said, diversity is just code for anti white.

[Wuzzums]

The comics giants, DC and Marvel, are more interested in numbers than anything else. Comics is an odd industry, it's fueled by people who love the medium but it cannot survive on fandom alone so they try to pander to as many people as possible. It's no secret, they've been doing every marketing gimmick you can think of since forever.

 

The demographic they have to pander to is also very tricky: kids and people in their 20's. So what we have are stories for young adults marketed as children's stories thus you have 2 types of readers: people who read the comics as they are, and people who read inbetween the lines. The writer has to cater to people who only look at the outside story, like SJW's, and to the people who know the story is nothing more than just some SJW bullshit. An analogy would be a juggling stand-up act with the comedian trying to be a people's comedian and and a comedian's comedian.

 

They got their numbers up when they turned Thor into a female, even though they didn't turn Thor into a female, they just put another character on the cover holding the hammer. Other attention grabbing ploys include: transforming Thor into a frog, Loki becoming a female (which everybody loved, and I mean everybody), revamping the Spider-Man narrative with a half hispanic half black half whatever kid, crippling Flash Thompson (Peter Parker's bully) only to become the superhero Flash Venom, turning the Punisher into Frankenstein's monster, turning the Punisher into Snake from the MGS series (everyone loves MGS), making Deadpool asian, making Reed Richards an evil villain, making Nick Fury black, killing Cpt. America, reviving Cpt. America, killing Cpt. America again, and so on.

 

It's very easy for them to do these kinds of of changes because they can revert them the following month if it doesn't work out. They turn Iron Man into a 15 year old girl (that looks like a woman in her 20's, remember the 2 demographics they have to pander to?), it gets a lot of viral marketing, people that bought Iron Man comics up till this point will of course buy it out of inertia, people who are outraged might buy it out of curiosity, and people who think it's a good idea will suddenly become long-time buyers of Iron Man comics. It's just a great business idea, SJW's or not.

 

Most of these are the tactics Marvel uses, and they work. DC however are really falling behind. They have issued a statement at some point saying that the whole comics branch of the company is a net loss, they don't scrap it because they need to keep their IP alive. There is no DC comics fan out there that actually likes DC. DC is to its characters what George Lucas is to Star Wars. The good comics that come out of DC are made for and by true-believers unfortunately there's no market for it.

 

The market will redirect itself and it will cleanse comics of the SJW influence. Just remember, after Thor became a woman the sales dropped and now mysteriously Thor is back to his old self again.

[Donnadogsoth]

The locus of the problem is the absence of Christianity. Without its moral cohesion, rationality, and sense of tradition the high moral ground has been ceded to the squeaky-wheel Year Zero secularists who are more invested in having a totalist society than modern Christians were.

 

So in that rainbow spirit, why not a polyamourous S&M Australian Aborigine Superman or a Red Indian paraplegic virtuous-paedophile Wolverine? Or whatever. Will it be long before the heroes' (remember when there were heroines?) names themselves of these characters are discarded in favour of funkier, more “diverse” and ethnicised names? Time will tell.

 

Darth Vader's portrayal is RACIST

[DaVinci]

The comics giants, DC and Marvel, are more interested in numbers than anything else. Comics is an odd industry, it's fueled by people who love the medium but it cannot survive on fandom alone so they try to pander to as many people as possible. It's no secret, they've been doing every marketing gimmick you can think of since forever.

 

The demographic they have to pander to is also very tricky: kids and people in their 20's. So what we have are stories for young adults marketed as children's stories thus you have 2 types of readers: people who read the comics as they are, and people who read inbetween the lines. The writer has to cater to people who only look at the outside story, like SJW's, and to the people who know the story is nothing more than just some SJW bullshit. An analogy would be a juggling stand-up act with the comedian trying to be a people's comedian and and a comedian's comedian.

 

They got their numbers up when they turned Thor into a female, even though they didn't turn Thor into a female, they just put another character on the cover holding the hammer. Other attention grabbing ploys include: transforming Thor into a frog, Loki becoming a female (which everybody loved, and I mean everybody), revamping the Spider-Man narrative with a half hispanic half black half whatever kid, crippling Flash Thompson (Peter Parker's bully) only to become the superhero Flash Venom, turning the Punisher into Frankenstein's monster, turning the Punisher into Snake from the MGS series (everyone loves MGS), making Deadpool asian, making Reed Richards an evil villain, making Nick Fury black, killing Cpt. America, reviving Cpt. America, killing Cpt. America again, and so on.

 

It's very easy for them to do these kinds of of changes because they can revert them the following month if it doesn't work out. They turn Iron Man into a 15 year old girl (that looks like a woman in her 20's, remember the 2 demographics they have to pander to?), it gets a lot of viral marketing, people that bought Iron Man comics up till this point will of course buy it out of inertia, people who are outraged might buy it out of curiosity, and people who think it's a good idea will suddenly become long-time buyers of Iron Man comics. It's just a great business idea, SJW's or not.

 

Most of these are the tactics Marvel uses, and they work. DC however are really falling behind. They have issued a statement at some point saying that the whole comics branch of the company is a net loss, they don't scrap it because they need to keep their IP alive. There is no DC comics fan out there that actually likes DC. DC is to its characters what George Lucas is to Star Wars. The good comics that come out of DC are made for and by true-believers unfortunately there's no market for it.

 

The market will redirect itself and it will cleanse comics of the SJW influence. Just remember, after Thor became a woman the sales dropped and now mysteriously Thor is back to his old self again.

 

That has always bugged me about comics. I understand they are a product for consumption, but that product-ness often times comes at the expense of the story. 

[Worlok]

The political correct comic scene is partially bullcrap and partially logical. 

 

I recently had to be corrected on the demographics of comic book readers. Around half of all readers are female. Pandering to women is perfectly logical and what I would say is clearly economically sound.

 

The Green Lantern from the 40s was turned into a gay man just because. He has a daughter. He's like 100 years old in the continuity. He just came out of the closet and never boned a dude. Just because. Not Awesome.

 

Captain America, Steve Rogers is being written as always having been hydra. In an interview with the writer it can be viewed that the American way, of English common law, basically the American way is fascist. Captain America is a nazi and people that agree with him are nazis because trump is a nazi and trump is a "republican." and republicans are for the American way that Cap represents. That's what I got out of it. The writer is a leftist, so it won't be an impartial commentary of government corruption.

 

Spider-man had to be a black kid... but also a hispanic kid. This is despite the fact that the very popular spider-man 2099, miguel o'harra is hispanic and super popular. Then there is pretty much spider-everybody. But we need a black one. Not Awesome.

 

Spider-Gwen (good comic) a 19 year old is going to have some sort of romantic involvement with black kid spider-man, a 15 year old. Just because. Not awesome.

 

Amadeus Cho, super genius, buddy of Hercules is now the incredible Hulk. Just because. You may have guessed, the korean super genius is being written by a Korean American. Coincidence? Not awesome.

 

Ms. Marvel. Later known as Captain Marvel (said to honor the actual Captain Mar-vel) and now some middle eastern girl that is basically a Reed Richards reject is now Captain Marvel. Brand recognition, I guess, but bullshit nonetheless.

 

Wiccan and Changeling, a mutant and a kree/skrull mix are gay together. They were made that way. Awesome.

 

Mystique, the shapeshifting mutant. Was always bisexual. Awesome.

 

Black Panther. Always a powerful, intelligent, highly respected black man. Sure, racially ignorant writers offended plenty of blacks, but the intent was always good and T'challa was always a bamf.

 

New black iron man. Tony Stark is still iron man. A young super genius black girl happened to design a super suit and catch his eye. Stupid idea, but awesome. 

 

 

My main problem is trying to change anybody. They are what they are and we like it that way or we would not buy the issues. Making new characters gay, black, or whatever is great. I'm all for inclusiveness. However, when you replace heroes with gay ones or black ones or whatever, it's offensive to my comic sensibilities and the fact that you think these groups need special treatment. Also, when it comes to sexuality, nobody should care. I don't care about a wedding. I don't care about two characters banging (jessica jones, anybody?) The fact that you are gay has nothing to do with anything except what you do in your bedroom. Comics should spend almost 0 time in the bedroom. Nobody cares. We don't judge you on your sexuality. 

[jamcity]

With all of this being said the most successful comic out now is The Walking Dead, it's not that PC and seems to be the opposite of everything established names are doing.

The reactions in the fan mail section are funny, they always seem to go along the lines of "aww man why couldn't you of', or "just had to have the ___ guy do ___"


 

 

Black Panther. Always a powerful, intelligent, highly respected black man. Sure, racially ignorant writers offended plenty of blacks, but the intent was always good and T'challa was always a bamf.

 

 

Judging by the social media reaction to the movie announcement/how ignorant most media is I doubt anyone is going to be willing to that far.




Seems like comic book business as usual.  Easier to bring someone back from the dead or reinvent them than launching a new comic or interesting storyline. 

Batman still puts out some amazing stories... but there are like 12 different Batman lines to choose from
Correction 14! http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/the_poet/lists/current-batman-series-list/20697/