NinjaDev Posted July 24, 2016 Posted July 24, 2016 A little background on myself I am an Atheist Conservative American with German ancestry who was raised Lutheran, but even as a young child I never believed in Christianity. Recently, I realized why Christians and other religious groups dislike Atheists. It comes down to being seen as a visible weakness within a group as nearly all of my Atheist friends are Left leaning. I found myself almost entirely siding with Christians during political debates & on policies compared to Atheists that I knew personally and I think I have some insight into why Progressivism works particularly well on them, rather than Christians/Other Religious that are more resistant to it. Despite being Atheist, I pay for my son to go to Christian school rather than be indoctrinated in Public School. Atheism vs Religion - Step 1. The Breaking of Consistent Standards Two of the first things Globalists do to destroy a Country is ruin the family & remove their groups religion. Removing religion is extremely important & much easier to do without a cohesive family unit. One will eventually lead to both as well. Christians have a SET standard of how they are supposed to uphold their lives, Atheists do not. I understand this is very obvious, but it is not as obvious to Atheists who's ideals are gradually moved to the Left over long periods of time.They have no standard to look upon and think, "Wow, I'm really far from what I know to be my goal, I should head back a little towards it." They also believe that it was their own logic & values that lead them to where they are. This is why it never triggers the sense to return to normalcy because there are no obvious Markers to be used as a gauge of where they currently stand. Progressivism - Step 2. The Acceptance of Inconsistent Standards "Progressive" implies that you are "making improvements" within society. But it's true definition only means "To move towards a goal" with no actual basis on improving. Progressives keep people pliable through CONSTANT small changes to what is considered accepted standards, even if those changes have no real effect. One of the most apparent examples I can give for this, is the idea of what is considered to be acceptable terminology for Blacks. "Nigger" used to be acceptable, then horribly offensive. "Coloreds" was then acceptable, then offensive, then "Black", then "African-American", and now to "People of Color" despite it being close to "Coloreds". The terminology never actually mattered, but your society's acceptance of changing its ideals is the base of Progressivism and without our own core value system we are always subject to being molded by propaganda. Relativity & Nihilism - Step 3. Destruction of Race & Homeland as a Standard Present Day: "Our race has a heinous history, all will be forgiven when we mix races." "Giving away our resources to other groups is a positive thing." "Surrendering our homelands to other groups because they were never ours to begin with & stole them from another group." "Mixing races with other groups that have less desirable traits is a positive thing." Atheist "Religion" - Filling The Void for Consistent European Standards Do you think Whites should work together to create a set of standards that shields us from propaganda? I will never believe in Christianity, but I will always believe in Christians & Whites. However, many Atheists have been coerced into thinking the opposite & Christians are also subject to it. I hope to hear your thoughts. Keep in mind, "Just be Christians" isn't acceptable to nearly every Atheist. I'd really love to see White Atheists & Christians have more common ground & would like to work with anyone with a plan to help that happen. Originally posted: https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/4uf2x2/globalism_religion_atheism_the_need_for/
junglecat Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 A little background on myself I am an Atheist Conservative American with German ancestry who was raised Lutheran, but even as a young child I never believed in Christianity. Recently, I realized why Christians and other religious groups dislike Atheists. It comes down to being seen as a visible weakness within a group as nearly all of my Atheist friends are Left leaning. I found myself almost entirely siding with Christians during political debates & on policies compared to Atheists that I knew personally and I think I have some insight into why Progressivism works particularly well on them, rather than Christians/Other Religious that are more resistant to it. Despite being Atheist, I pay for my son to go to Christian school rather than be indoctrinated in Public School. Atheism vs Religion - Step 1. The Breaking of Consistent Standards Two of the first things Globalists do to destroy a Country is ruin the family & remove their groups religion. Removing religion is extremely important & much easier to do without a cohesive family unit. One will eventually lead to both as well. Christians have a SET standard of how they are supposed to uphold their lives, Atheists do not. I understand this is very obvious, but it is not as obvious to Atheists who's ideals are gradually moved to the Left over long periods of time. They have no standard to look upon and think, "Wow, I'm really far from what I know to be my goal, I should head back a little towards it." They also believe that it was their own logic & values that lead them to where they are. This is why it never triggers the sense to return to normalcy because there are no obvious Markers to be used as a gauge of where they currently stand. Progressivism - Step 2. The Acceptance of Inconsistent Standards "Progressive" implies that you are "making improvements" within society. But it's true definition only means "To move towards a goal" with no actual basis on improving. Progressives keep people pliable through CONSTANT small changes to what is considered accepted standards, even if those changes have no real effect. One of the most apparent examples I can give for this, is the idea of what is considered to be acceptable terminology for Blacks. "Nigger" used to be acceptable, then horribly offensive. "Coloreds" was then acceptable, then offensive, then "Black", then "African-American", and now to "People of Color" despite it being close to "Coloreds". The terminology never actually mattered, but your society's acceptance of changing its ideals is the base of Progressivism and without our own core value system we are always subject to being molded by propaganda. Relativity & Nihilism - Step 3. Destruction of Race & Homeland as a Standard Present Day: "Our race has a heinous history, all will be forgiven when we mix races." "Giving away our resources to other groups is a positive thing." "Surrendering our homelands to other groups because they were never ours to begin with & stole them from another group." "Mixing races with other groups that have less desirable traits is a positive thing." Atheist "Religion" - Filling The Void for Consistent European Standards Do you think Whites should work together to create a set of standards that shields us from propaganda? I will never believe in Christianity, but I will always believe in Christians & Whites. However, many Atheists have been coerced into thinking the opposite & Christians are also subject to it. I hope to hear your thoughts. Keep in mind, "Just be Christians" isn't acceptable to nearly every Atheist. I'd really love to see White Atheists & Christians have more common ground & would like to work with anyone with a plan to help that happen. Originally posted: https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/4uf2x2/globalism_religion_atheism_the_need_for/ Yes, there has been a definite slide into 'progressivism' for a long time. But just in the past year I have seen many younger conservatives gain a voice in the public sphere, Milo, Gavin McInnes, etc- and while they are definitely giving a fresh face to conservativism they are not a homogeneous bunch. This trend is a natural mimetic shift. The important thing to keep in mind is that conservatism is not going to save us. It could easily be that this natural push back could escalate the violence if it is not kept in check with Christian principles. Jesus gave us the best advice on how to avoid runaway violence: Matthew Chapter 5: 38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. He is not advocating masochism. He is warning us of our innate potential for our own violence to get out of hand. When conflicts arise, and they inevitably will, that is the moment when we must drop everything to prevent the violence from escalating. It's not a political program, it's salvation in the broadest anthropological sense. How does this look as boots on the ground? I don't think it necessarily means laying down all arms and being killed. There is a spectrum of aggression and violence. Much of what we confront as aggression is not physical violence and can be diffused by responding with love instead of aggression- no matter how justified our natural response to push back may be. A man who comes across as aggressive has most likely been the victim of abuse himself. Having empathy and understanding of his story can help curb our natural reaction to push back. It sounds simple but it is hard work. This is the most difficult Christian discipline. The good thing is you need not be a Christian to practice it and see immediate benefits in the world. This is why I say the non-aggression principle is not enough to save humanity from it's own violence. Merely refraining from initiating violence will only work if all people do it at the same time. The problem is there is a chain of violence that is as long as the history of culture. The violence has a life of its own at this point. It's the 'image of the beast' that we can't seem to shake. The beast is a phantom, for sure. It's the opposite of the Christian 'holy spirit', the advocate for the defense. It boils down to something Jesus said over and over again, "Love one another."
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