RichardY Posted October 18, 2016 Posted October 18, 2016 Out of curiosity, anyone know any helpful or seemingly rational passages from the Bible? Nothing too long.
shirgall Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 Out of curiosity, anyone know any helpful or seemingly rational passages from the Bible? Nothing too long. Matthew 7:15: Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. Matthew 7:16: By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Once you figure out that all of the prophets are false, because they are mutually contradictory and there exists no objective standard to choose one set over another, you realize you are surrounded by wolves that don't even realize they are wolves. Time to get out of the garden.
Boss Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 I will say the golden rule Matthew 7:12Do to others what you want them to do to you
wintermute Posted October 19, 2016 Posted October 19, 2016 Out of curiosity, anyone know any helpful or seemingly rational passages from the Bible? Nothing too long. John Chapter 10 [17] Therefore doth the Father love me: because I lay down my life, that I may take it again. [18] No man taketh it away from me: but I lay it down of myself, and I have power to lay it down: and I have power to take it up again. This commandment have I received of my Father. [19] A dissension rose again among the Jews for these words. [20] And many of them said: He hath a devil, and is mad: why hear you him? [21] Others said: These are not the words of one that hath a devil: Can a devil open the eyes of the blind? [22] And it was the feast of the dedication at Jerusalem: and it was winter. [23] And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon' s porch. [24] The Jews therefore came round about him, and said to him: How long dost thou hold our souls in suspense? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. [25] Jesus answered them: I speak to you, and you believe not: the works that I do in the name of my Father, they give testimony of me.
RichardY Posted October 19, 2016 Author Posted October 19, 2016 Timothy 4:1 "For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick(alive) and the dead". Never read the full passage before only the last part, which I was lead to believe meant work till you drop dead, but be quick about it, you can rest in the grave. Interestingly it was mentioned on wikipedia that the phrase was quoted in Hamlet, which I haven't read, but I guess people sometimes pick up parts from certain pop culture. --------- "Ezekiel 25:17, naturally" Funny as heck that part on Pulp Fiction, kind of glossed over the part on equity with vengeance and hot lead.
Mister Mister Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 I don't know the Bible that well, but my favorite was always Matthew 7. I believe the context is that a woman is being stoned for adultery. Jesus says: “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. I think it's one of the most misinterpreted passages in the Bible, as Stef talked about with Vox Day. It is not a criticism of judgment, but of hypocrisy. I also think it's a primitive, folk version of UPB: the message is not "do not judge", but rather "do not judge LEST ye be judged". In other words, the standards by which you judge another person, are the standards by which you should be judged. Jesus was not arguing against having a general social rule against adultery, but the barbaric, violent way that stone-age desert culture dealt with such things.
sweathog1 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Read recently, that out of 5 religious killings nowadays 4 of them are Christians. Never had much use for fundies of any sort coming from a Catholic background, although Revelations are in the Catholic bible, that section is glossed over or passed over quickly by everyone. (Too crazy) Matter of fact last 30 years didn't have much use for Catholics either. Anyways starting to think it's time for me to brush off that pile of dust on that book. In my old age this gives me comfort after so many years. Strange? Ecclesiastes 3King James Version (KJV) 3 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: 2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; 3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; 4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; 5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; 6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; 7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; 8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. 1
wintermute Posted November 11, 2016 Posted November 11, 2016 "Never had much use for fundies of any sort coming from a Catholic background," have you listened to Stefan's video on the Crusades or read any of the material debunking the hype about the Inquisition? I think that would give you a more balanced view.
sweathog1 Posted November 12, 2016 Posted November 12, 2016 yes, I usually get around to watch most of Stefan's stuff. Don't always agree. Have you dusted off the old book and tried to make sense of revelations? I have. Separate from that... where is Stefan's mention of the burning of the ancient library of Alexandria? Believe most of that was burned before 300 ad during the Roman empire, rather than the then pope.
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