OCD_Buddha Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Hello all - thank you for the recent acceptance to the forum. The following is directly relevant to the UK, although I suspect it may have wider ramifications across the Atlantic. There is a lot of talk of "rape culture", as though this is something that has been normalised among particularly young men. The recent Ched Evans and Adam Johnson (both young white male football players) brought this to the public sphere, along with many other examples. I am not a for a moment saying that rape is not an issue that shouldn't be taken seriously. I am suggesting that white British Men from my standpoint and Western European culture generally is taking the flak for their lack of sexual morality, general chauvinism and sense of entitlement. If anyone would like to look at the official statistics we see that 26% of sexual grooming in the UK was carried out by Asian men. However, 32% of convictions was classed as unknown; therefore the true % is clearly between the 26%-58% extremes of possibility. Someone of unknown ethnicity is surely much more likely to be non-white (although not necessarily Asian), as British-born people almost certainly have birth certificates and other forms of ID, and established a family and social networks to ascertain their ethnicity, which immigrants may not have. Furthermore, it is just logical that there could be more chance of someone being in reality "any other ethnicity" rather than "definitely white British" due to the plethora of other conceivable options. Thus I suspect the true reflection is much closer to the 58% than the 26%. Regardless, by the official surveys own definition of ethnicity, Asian people (both men and women) represent 6% of the UK population. If we assume that all the grooming is conducted by men, we see that Asian men are 5 to 9 times more likely to be sexual groomers than white British men. However, these are only the official statistics. In my opinion, considering cases such as the Rotherham grooming gang which proved that information was actively hidden by mainstream media and socio-political institutions, combined with the apparent absence of any kind of internal inquiry by the British Muslim community, I suggest this estimate is lower than reality. Please keep in mind that this 6% figure is an umbrella term for a large proportion and population of Chinese, Thai and other generally non-Muslim and predominately East Asian people, who commit statistically negligible sexual grooming crimes. Thus if the specific ratio of Muslim men against generically "white men" was available, it seems obvious the existing 5-9 times (already low) estimate would be even higher. A reasonable and conservative re-estimation could be 11 times. As mentioned the total percentage of all Asian people in the UK is at 6%; however, the percentage of Islamic (and for all intents and purposes entirely Asian, and mainly Pakistani) newborn babies is 10%. Thus a massive 40% of this original 6% pool of Asian people will be very young, thus not relevant to the grooming statistics, which can only be reasonably attributed to adult men (or at least older teenagers). This crucial report is consistently overlooked by official statistics and the media. Thus if we had data to compare specifically 'Islamic Asian Adult Men' against any other demographic, be that either "Christian White Adult Men", or even "Any Non-Muslim Adult Man", we would find a concentrated true demographic people significantly more than the already low estimate. A second reasonable and conservative re-estimation could be 15 times. Conclusion; the official basic data extrapolated to include conservative assumptions which very likely expose the wider picture can be said to show that Islamic Asian Adult Men are 15 times more likely to sexual groom vulnerable children and young adults relative to any other men, be that Christians or Atheists etc. This is once the date has been stripped back to remove a.) the bias of non-Muslim Asian people who are clumsily grouped together by official statistics, but commit negligible grooming crimes, b.) the huge number of Muslim children inaccurately grouped together by official statistics who obviously aren't themselves child groomers, c.) a reasonable estimation of the number of Asian Muslim people are currently hide behind the huge portion of "unknown ethnicity people" and d.) the small extrapolation of the data to include the obvious in-group preference, lack of internal enquiry and insular nature of the Islamic community in the UK as demonstrated by the Rotherham case study (and many others, which I didn't want to list as this would distract from the overall point). The majority of the facts were taken from https://fullfact.org/news/are-asians-disproportionately-represented-prosecutions-sex-offences/, the rest widely available from a Google search. I am not a mathematician; I am happy for the above to be corrected, or my points challenged in any way. I'd love to know your thoughts. As Stef would rightly say the following: "Is not an argument" - White people rape people to - The police are racist - I must be racist for discussing this important issue Cheers 1
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