LillyG Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 In light of the "spirit cooking" events, we've been exposed to an artist by the name of Marina Abramović. I knew of her work before these ties to Podesta, but honestly, as of late, her art has caused me to pause and question whether she is an artist or just exposed to money which is poured into an idea surrounded by institutions masquerading as art. How do we know what art really is? Is it a feeling or can it only be expressed through traditional means? Is modern art really art? If it can't hang on a wall or sit in a room is it art? Why are there so many different takes on art. There is not doubt that modern art has a "cool factor" that simply doesn't exists in the renaissance period pieces. I guess I wonder if artists are trying too hard to make something art when it really isn't. But this leads me back to... What is Art?
aviet Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 What is Art? As you allude to art can be anything someone wants to say is art. Whether you want to agree with their definition is down to you. I chose to reject the classification for modern art as I have seen it. For me, a general bar to entry would be something that I could not create myself. One of my friends is a professional, state-subsidised artist (for now). Everything I've ever seen him create has been something I could do - consisting of large but simple sculptures that are constructed in a warehouse and then after a month or so are dismantled and probably bundled into a hole in the ground. These pieces of art have meaning, but you'd probably not be able to guess them. One of my long-standing criticisms of art is the pomposity and ivory tower retreating magnanimity that both modern artists and its appreciaters subsume themselves in. They seem to think they have ascended to a higher plane by means of encoding or decoding obscure meanings from or into art. There seems to be a notion that something expressed through art takes on a higher meaning. I'd much rather people communicate these meanings via philosophical arguments, rather than this pomposity wrapped in probably misinterpreting the obscure meanings botched into such monstrosities as a figure of Jesus covered in male reproductive fluids or a twat being forced through an archway in the basement of the Tate Modern. Personally I like traditional art and have never seen any modern art that I like. A favorite is: I bought this earlier this year: PJW:
dsayers Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 THIS is art. It shows us the root of all interpersonal communications breakdown. It personifies what child abuse and the cycle of violence leads to. I get tears in my eyes every time I think about it and the ways in which it represents the tragedies I've known in my life. To answer the question itself, I would say art is in the eye of the beholder. Anything that solicits an emotional response could be considered art. Or perhaps only things that fit that criteria and were designed specifically for that purpose. Why does it matter? Not saying it shouldn't. Just curious in what way having a precise definition will enhance your life. 1
Iron Horse Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 No it's not Dsayers, it is a cheap and easily concieved political/social comment, I do no detract from the issue it attempts to tackle which we all agree is very serious, but it is not art. It is dull contrite and replicated a thousand times over, everything art is not. 1
Laforge Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 I'm with Dsayers, art is personal and subjective (like religion imho). Any movie, music, picture, text, braille that generates emotion can be considered art. I can appreciate pictures of complex systems, like nature/forests, animals, marine life and the human body. Each adult human is the selfish/cooperative voluntarism of at least 15 trillion individual primitive animals (cells). https://thebodyboughtandsold.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/death-and-art/
dsayers Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 No it's not Dsayers, it is a cheap and easily concieved political/social comment, I do no detract from the issue it attempts to tackle which we all agree is very serious, but it is not art. It is dull contrite and replicated a thousand times over, everything art is not. Political? Show me how. Replicated a thousand times over? Show me where. 1
DaVinci Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 What is art? Baby, don't hurt me... don't hurt me... no more!
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