The Truth about the Migrant Crisis and Hungary

[M.2]

To everyone interested in knowing the truth.

I have seen no good summary of the events of the situation in Hungary and the Eastern Route, that sees 3/4 of all migrants to Europe as of yet, so here it is.

This is a chronological summary of the "Migrant Crisis" events of 2015, 2016 and 2017, their impacts on Hungary, and how Hungary handled the situation as the primary Transit Country for migrants headed into the EU Schengen Zone.

Sources are in blue, and I have listed them directly after the corresponding story. Some sources are in English, but since coverage on Hungary has been very scarce, most are in Hungarian or a few even German. I was very reluctant to use sources from left-leaning media, but I did include some that I know to be credible.

Researched and compiled by myself using mostly reports of Hungarian media, EU data, police data, private citizens and my personal insight as a JRS Jesuit Refugee Service worker.

Important words are in red.

 

2015 The First Wave:

- August: For the Hungarian people, the "refugee crisis" really began in the last days of August, when without notice, hundreds of  people of foreign origins set up a camp within the recently renovated Keleti train station. The camp had an uneasy feeling about it. One could smell the stench of urine, see the bored people, and feel the tension brewing between the locals and the newcomers. No bypassers understood what was going on, the average hungarian couldn't even find Syria on a map, from where hordes of people could be flooding into Europe. Nobody was informed by the authorities of why the camp was set up, the local media began investigating immediately, but all anyone could actually do was to watch and wait. (http://alfahir.hu/igy_nez_ki_a_menekulttaborra_valt_keleti_palyaudvar)

- On the 1st of September however, the calm was gone. To this day, nobody truly knows what caused the unrest, but the people present at the station were witnesses to the migrants shouting, blocking roads, chasing after some men and being all-round unpeaceul. The hungarians didn't even know how to react to this behaviour. The last time anything of this sort happened in the peaceful city of Budapest was in 2006, when the people revolted against the leftist government that admitted to lying to the country. Some curious pedestrians went closer to the raging mob, whipped out their mobile devices, and did what any normal western millenial would do - take selfies. The riot police arrived on the scene in under an hour, and started pushing the mob off the roads. Nothing much happened after that, but this incident was enough to prompt the government to act. Most of the station became off limits to all migrants, and at least two dozen police officers stood guard at the gates at all times, all without heavy gear or firearms. (http://www.origo.hu/itthon/20150901-menekultek-tuntetnek-lezartak-kiuritetek-a-keleti-palyaudvart.html)

- On 3rd September 2015, one day before the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group F match, Hungarian football hooligans clashed with the Hungarian police in the streets of Budapest, 16 of them being arrested. No definitely credible sources exist on this, but many claim that the camp at Keleti was also attacked by the hooligans. This may have been the reason why on the 4th, hundreds of the migrants suddenly packed their things, and began their march towards Austria.
By the end of September, no migrants were left at Keleti. (http://www.press-report.hu.com/clanek-102723818-osszeverekedtek-a-szurkolok-a-menekultekkel-a-keletinel)

- On September 16th, to the surprise of the arriving migrants, and to the outrage of the EU and the global leftist media, the Serbian border crossing of Röszke-Horgos was closed to all illegals (Serbia not a Schengen country). As all criminals do, the migrants began throwing a tantrum, assaulting the border fence, throwing rocks at police. The police responded with tear-gas and water cannons. The western media reported on the incident, for whatever reason they also denounced the behaviour of the police. According to the hungarian press, 2 officers were injured, the migrants merely got a healthy dose of tear-gas. (http://www.delmagyar.hu/szeged_hirek/ez_tortent_penteken_kitores_kodobalas_es_konnygaz_a_roszkei_hangarnal/2444060/)

- By September 17th the prime minister of Hungary had ordered a temporary fence to be erected on the 151km Serbian border, and a permanent 4 meters high razor-wire fence was already being constructed. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/13/hungary-begins-work-on-border-fence-to-keep-out-migrants)(http://www.fidesz.sopron.hu/?p=4275) 

The chancellor of Germany, the EU parliament, Austria and the hungarian left all attacked the prime minister, accusing him with racism, xenophobia and far-right ideology. (http://index.hu/kulfold/2015/06/23/magyarorszag_kitette_a_megtelt_tablat/) 

The majority of the hungarian populace still had not caught up with the events.

The 329km border with Croatia was also set to be fenced, as the migrants could still go around the serbian fence. (Croatia also not Schengen). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_border_barrier)

- On 22 September 2015, European Union interior ministers meeting in the Justice and Home affairs council approved a plan to relocate 120,000 asylum seekers over two years from the frontline states Italy, Grrece, and Hungary to all other EU countries (except Denmark, Ireland and the United Kingdom which have opt-outs). The relocation plan applies to asylum seekers "in clear need of international protection" (those with a recognition rate higher than 75%, i.e. Syrians, Eritreans and Iraqis) – 15,600 from Italy, 50,400 from Greece and 54,000 from Hungary – who will be distributed among EU states on the basis of quotas taking into account the size of economy and population of each state, as well as the average number of asylum applications. The decision was taken by majority vote, with the Czechia, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia voting against and Finland abstaining. Since Hungary voted against the relocation plan, its 54,000 asylum seekers would not be relocated for now, and could be relocated from Italy and Greece instead

 

Historical context:

It is important to understand the position of the people who were not ok with the actions of the pm. These people took it as a given that every single one of the migrants were refugees. Hence, as the Geneva Convention of 1949 dictates, every country that signed the treaty agrees to take in every person the treaty designates as a Refugee. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions)

An example of the treaty in effect was Austria in 1965, when revolutions broke out in Poland, Hungary and Chechia. Following the failiures of the insurrections, thousands of refugees fled to Austria. The Austrian border guards could have simply shot the refugees, since they were crossing the border illegally, but thanks to the Geneva Conventions the refugees were distributed among the western nations. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/ir2/hungaryrev2.shtml)

Why did Hungary build the fence? The only reason is that these new types of refugees had no papers, they refused to comply to the rules, to cooperate with the hungarian authorities and register. (http://www.bmbah.hu/index.php?lang=hu)
How a refugee is admitted to the EU is outlined in the Dublin agreement. According to which, the the first country that foreigners enter into, must be the one to register them. https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/asylum/examination-of-applicants_en

And Hungary, being the very edge of the Schengen zone, was responsible for vetting every foreigner that sets foot in the EU. Also, it is worth mentioning that the border was not completely closed, and legal immigrants were still allowed to enter at checkpoints, as long as they had papers. (https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/asylum/examination-of-applicants_en)

By 2016, if sources are at least some indicator, Hungary has seen 2/3rd of all immigrants into the Schengen zone. Which until 2016, was 300 000 persons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Migrant_routes.2C_development.2C_and_responses_in_individual_countries

 

Hungary's history with refugees:

- From the 17th until the 19th century, the southernmost part of the country, a 50-100km wide, 1000km long strip of land including Croatia, Slavonia, Vojvodina and Southern Transylvania was officially designated the Borderguard Territories (Határőr vidék). The only job of every person living in this land was to systematically keep out or vet every refugee fleeing from the Ottoman Empire. Thousands of people fled from the South, and most settled and contributed very diligently to the economy and the culture that had given them asylum.

Please note that Hungary, as all other European powers, has a long History dealing with multiculturalism. For 900 years only half of the country's population was ethnically Hungarian, the others were Romanians, Slavs and Germans.

During Communism many Palestinians were settled in the country and they were integrated without much effort.

Today 10% of the population of Hungary is ethnically Gypsy. Quite stereotypically, they do not work, they are uneducated, they are violent, and they are hostile towards Hungarians. The FIDESZ government implemented many solutions to integrate the Gypsy population: Revoked child support for the unemployed, started low-wage job programs, subsidised education...

Everyone who immigrates to Hungary simply has to learn the language, the customs, the laws, must work, and above all, has to come in legally. Just like my father did, who came in from Mongolia, worked, graduated University, married a very nice Hungarian lady, and never asked for free stuff. Then he went back to Mongolia along with his family, to spread European culture to the East.

 

The first terror attacks in Europe (reactions of Hungarian citizens and the government):

- November 15th, Paris attacks. One of the attackers was found to have crossed the Hungarian border in September. The west suddenly stops attacking Hungary, and in fact, I myself have not found a single English-language article about Hungary and the refugee crisis since then... One wonders why. State of emergency declared in most EU countries. (http://estiujsag.hu/belfold/rendkivuli-allapot-kihirdetese-meg-nincs-magyarorszagon)The Visegrad 4 hold meetings almost every month after that in order to address the crisis. Slovakia, Poland and Chechia all dispatch police units to patrol the now 500km long Southern border barrier.

(http://kitekinto.hu/cimke/visegradi-negyek/)

- March 22, Brussels attacks. I was talking to my brother on skype, who studies in Brussels. I belive our talk very accurately embodied the tragic state of the European mindset that day. During the conversation he picks up his phone and comments in a calm voice "They bombed the train station". Without lifting an eyebrow, I said "Yep". After a couple minutes he continues "the airport as well", to which following a brief pause I ask "So germany next?". He said "Yep". Shorty afterwards, a Facebook notification arrives on my phone, saying that my brother has been marked to be alive. Yes, apparently Facebook has developed a service just for such catastrophies. I can almost imagine an ad like: "Next time a terrorist blows himself up next to you, you too can be marked as alive by your friend!"

Almost every country in the EU declared a state of emergency. That including Hungary, where every metro station was patrolled by a squad of heavily armed counter-terrorism officers (TEK). This was the first occasion in my lifetime on which I saw a sub-machine gun in Budapest. I had seen quite a few in London 3 years prior, where they always have had armed police at every major Underground station since the London bombings.

(http://nepszava.hu/cikk/1089030-terrortamadas-brusszelben-34-halott-106-sebesult---videok)

- The Austrian and the Slovenian governments place orders to Hungary for 1000km of razor-wire fence. (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/691905/Austria-plan-build-huge-border-fence-stop-migrants-Schengen-EU-Brussels)

Hungary stocks up with enough fence to be able to seal off the 443km border with Romania in a single day if the order is given.

(http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-hungary-minister-idUKKCN0UX284)

Bavaria stands by Hungary. (http://www.dw.com/de/festakt-zum-ungarn-aufstand-im-bayerischen-landtag/a-36072499)

 

2016 The Second Wave:

- The spring brought hundreds of new "refugees" to Hungary. Nevertheless, the hungarian government ordered all except 3 refugee camps closed For perspective, the small camp at Fót, which used to house around 60 refugees until April, was suddenly home to 250 people. Every week, about 50 people left for Austria, and 60 new people came. This meant that every list the camp authorities had at any given time were 3 days out of date. (http://alfahir.hu/tulzsufoltak_a_magyarorszagi_menekulttaborok)

About our refugees. We had no means to verify their names, their age, nor their nationality. I myself have no idea how they were allwed through the border. The rounded ratio of nationalities in the camps at any given time were 40% Afghani, 25% Pakistani, 10% Subsaharan, 10% Saharan, 5% Bangla, 10% other including Iraqi, Turkish (note: I have not seen confirmed reports of a single person from Syria.)

These numbers are classified information , so there are no sources to this data anywhere.

Official reports, if to be trusted are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Origins_and_motivations

- By summer, contrary to what we were expecting - a tidal wave of immigrants - things were extremely calm. To everyone's surprise, the government closed down another refugee camp, and the remaining two had their occupants reduced to normal numbers. Only 40 total number of refugees are admitted each day. Most continue on to Germany anyway. (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/22/hungary-border-fence-massive-success-balkan-route-trickle/)

In all fairness, there had been only one confirmed violent action carried out by a migrant within Hungary. An afghani stabbed another unknown migrant at Bicske. This low crime rate is probably a result of strictly enacted policies from the right-leaning FIDESZ majority government.

- October 2. Hungary holds a referendum over whether or not to accept the EU dictated migrant quotas. With a 43% participation rate, 98% of voter vote to reject the quotas. This referendum in effect is inconsequencial, since the government can only act on referendums for which the participation rate is above 50%. Nevertheless, the results mean that FIDESZ is still by far the most popular political party among voters. (https://www.rt.com/news/361390-hungary-referendum-migrant-quotas/)

(http://www.dw.com/de/referendum-orban-hat-sein-ziel-schon-erreicht/a-35933763)

- By the end of 2016 only 1 refugee camp remains in Hungary. (http://444.hu/tag/menekulttabor?page=1)

Accepted refugees, who do exist, of course, are given 2 months to find residence in Hungary. They are provided free education, as education is free in Hungary, so they have no reason not to learn Hungarian. Meanwhile, volunteers and from all over the country, civil services, and various Christian denominations, most notably the Catholic Church, all assist in the assimilation of these people.

Lesson: You do not need to build a wall, America. Just purchase a fence from Hungary!

 

- 2017 February Update:

With the "Border Hunter Initiative" fást in motion, with cooperation of the Visegrád Alliance, and with the Second Border Fence being built, one would expect not to see any more illegal migrants coming in from the Balkans ever again.

http://www.police.hu/hirek-es-informaciok/hatarvadasz-kepzes/hatarvadasz-hirek

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-hungary-fence-idUSKBN16614A

However, since there is currently virtually no unified stance on the matter between all EU countries, it is quite impossible to completely halt the flow of illegal migrants.

9 EU members have already reinstated border controls, but only Spain, Hungary, Austria and Slovenia have built fences along their borders.

https://eblnews.com/news/europe/current-migration-border-controls-europes-schengen-area-6981

 

- 2017 The third wave:

There is always a sizable influx of people from the south at the arrival of Spring. Just like it happened in 2015 and 2016, the March of 2017 is seeing a another Wave of men without papers, nor nationalities, nor the will to apply legally.

The Hungarian Police have reported that the migrants seem to make an attempt of crossing Hungary every Weekend, as the Police would arrest one or two illegals on a slow day, but over 20 or 30 on Mondays. It is almost as if they were organising a  trekking party on a weekly basis.

http://www.police.hu/hirek-es-informaciok/hatarinfo/elfogott-migransok-szama

By now, there is only one Refugee Processing camp left in Hungary. Numbers have finally stabilised at 80, but almost all of them leave west in less than a month.

Austria has not erected a fence on their border with Hungary, which means that it is impossible to know how many migrants slip past Hungary into Western Europe.

As of April 2017, at least 50 000 people are stranded in Greece, and another 8000 in Serbia, partly due to the border controls of Hungary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#International

By April 28th, Hungary has completed construction of second layer of razor-wire fence. http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/28/hungary-builds-a-second-wall-against-illegals/

 

- The sorry state of the EU:

In short, the EU has still not come up with a comprehensive proposal to deal with the crisis.

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/explainers/understanding-migration-and-asylum-european-union

The plan of distributing migrants was vetoed by 4 EU states in 2015 (Czechia, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania).

http://publications.europa.eu/webpub/com/factsheets/refugee-crisis/en/

They haven't got sufficient hands on the ground, their numbers are out of date by almost a year, all asylum centres west of Bratislava are overcrowded, real information is very hard to obtain, and the independent organisations are unable to cooperate with each other.

Terror attacks in Europe in 2016:

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/list-of-terrorist-attacks-that-have-struck-europe-in-2016/

- Official EUROSTAT statistics on asylum seeker applications (have a blast, but take a salt mine with it): http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Asylum_statistics

- Analyzing EUROSTAT data:
1. All data are extremely outdated, with last records from early 2016.
2. There is no way to actually track anyone. Most asylees have no papers, and they apply multiple times in various countries, or they do not apply at all.
3. There is no centralised bureau that handles immigration in the EU, henc reports come from various EU states, most of whom have not set up border controls, thusly unable to acccurately measure numbers.
4. I am unable to find reliable data on the number of admitted refugees and their origins. Curious.

[JoeH]

We just need to stop giving people free stuff.

[M.2]

Many people theorise about what the solution is. But they do not realise that the solution has already been enacted in practice by Hungary. I wish Mr.Molyneux would make a show about this, since not many western media outlets report on this.

[RichardY]

 a Facebook notification arrives on my phone, saying that my brother has been marked to be alive. Yes, apparently Facebook has developed a service just for such catastrophies. I can almost imagine an ad like: "Next time a terrorist blows himself up next to you, you too can be marked as alive by your friend!"

Hey that is reassuring to know the next time an Islamic Terrorist blows himself up, you can be marked as alive   by a friend.

 

Interesting that you mentioned Brussels (25.5% Muslim), I had almost forgotten about the terrorist attack on the airport and train station. Was thinking briefly about Belgium as a country recently, it is in effect 2 main cultures Walloons and Flemish. What might help prevent ethnic and religious tensions blowing up big style again... Would be if the Flemish gained independence and stopped funding the capital of the EU.

 

The fence is too late for France, England and probably Germany. The language is also a major problem as most people around the world speak at least a little English or maybe French if from Africa, but not Hungarian. Western Europe is also very decadent given the relative wealth and hedonism of the baby boomers, its also has become largely antithetical to Christianity (bulldozing cemeteries, destroying bibles in schools).

 

I think Freeing the Flemish from Belgium, considering Walloons have a veto on all political decision might be the way to go as one step. Would be Ironic if a major focal point for both World Wars and Napoleonic had some big political changes before conflict breaks out. Germany seems to have gone full blown fascist again, though Britain isn't exactly far behind. Though how practical secession is who knows, maybe there is a better solution.

[M.2]

The fence is too late for France, England and probably Germany. The language is also a major problem as most people around the world speak at least a little English or maybe French if from Africa, but not Hungarian. Western Europe is also very decadent given the relative wealth and hedonism of the baby boomers, its also has become largely antithetical to Christianity (bulldozing cemeteries, destroying bibles in schools).

Hi, RichardY! I have added another paragraph outlining how Hungary has dealt and still deals with multiculturalism:

"Hungary's history with refugees"

[M.2]

So here is the thing...

When the next wave arrives from Turkey, how will they get into the Schengen zone?

The Carpathians block the route east, the Alps block the West, and inbetween are the borderwalls kickstarted by Hungary.

Nevertheless, the migrants will break through. So where exactly will that be? 

[HunyadiJanos]

The EU made a decision to strenghten the controll at the borders. I do live near Röszke where migrants did attack the border and just out of curiosity (after seeing CNN's report about poor refugees there) I went there to check it out for myself, so I saw what has happened. Reality and CNN are pretty disconnected I would say...
My parents live in Serbia, so I do travel on a regular basis there. Yesterday instead of the usual 0-20 misn I have been sitting at the border for 3 hours, 'cos EU needs to protect itself from us EU citizens. In the car next to me there was a familly from Hungary with 3 kids, a 2 a 3 and 5 year old boy. This is just outrageous.

[M.2]

So, apparently I was right. About a 1000 illegals stormed the border crossing at Röszke-Horgos at 21:00 on May 1. They broke through, the police pulled back at first, but eventually stopped the assault. Police reports are not out yet, but I will post updates as soon as they are. http://utcaemberek.blogspot.hu/2017/05/felfegyverzett-migransok-rohamoztak-meg.html?spref=fb

Note: There are currently 50-100 thousand migrants stuck in the Balkans because of the border policies of Hungary, Austria and Slovenia.

 

[RichardY]

Why would they even bother to storm the fence? How many I wonder go through Slovenia. The whole setup is more idiotic than the Maginot Line.

[M.2]

5 hours ago, RichardY said:

Why would they even bother to storm the fence? How many I wonder go through Slovenia. The whole setup is more idiotic than the Maginot Line.

The map I posted earlier is a bit outdated.

Slovenia has a fence as well. Also, it is much harder to traverse the Slovenian mountainoius woodland terrain compared to the Hungarian lowlands that stretch into Serbia.

That said, a few dozen migrants are apprehended each week, who somehow manage to get past the fence. Police stats here: http://www.police.hu/hirek-es-informaciok/hatarinfo/elfogott-migransok-szama

[RichardY]

Wouldn't be surprised if they dug tunnels, must be hundreds of ways to cross the border illegally.

[M.2]

1 hour ago, RichardY said:

Wouldn't be surprised if they dug tunnels, must be hundreds of ways to cross the border illegally.

Am I correct in detecting some level of scepticism from you regarding the efficacy of the fence? If so, could you explain your grounds for that?

[RichardY]

14 minutes ago, Mishi2 said:

Am I correct in detecting some level of scepticism from you regarding the efficacy of the fence? If so, could you explain your grounds for that?

Well, have the fence but I don't think it is enough to stop major problems that are coming in Europe. Hungary and Eastern Europe might be ok for the foreseeable future. Thing is the governments aren't willing to turn back the boats crossing the Mediterranean. Some migrants even crossing via Finland, though they're probably more innovative. Doesn't look certain Marine le Pen will win in France. I wonder if I could claim asylum in Canada or USA, have European natives move overseas..., maybe could emigrate legally, though personally I'd be classified as unskilled. For Europeans staying what can be done, its not like the information isn't out there but still people virtue signal.

[M.2]

Although I share your sentiment, Richard, statistically speaking, Western Europe is not yet lost. Here is my reasoning. 

In 2006, Hungary had its own little civil war, because the leftist government messed up soooo bad. We literally had tanks on our streets. It was pretty awesome, I encourage you to look it up. 

Here are 3 maps to illustrate my point (before and after leftism): In order: 2006, 2010, 2014.

Your counter argument may be that Hungary is a high-IQ homogeneous country, but that is not true. Over 10% of the population are ethnic Gypsies, who we have been trying to assimilate for decades. Yes, they steal, they are violent, and they vote left. Germany is 91% ethnic German.
To this you may argue that Germany has the guilt culture. But I remind you that Hungary was the only country in the world to fall beside Germany in WW2. We have had our fair share of guilt culture.
Within Germany, Saxony, Bavaria, and Burgenland are on their ways to being redpilled.

As you see, Hungary is nothiing special, just a bit ahead of the curve. Europe may follow yet, but first the left has to f up real big. And that is what is happening now.