Can something be anything other than random, caused or fixed

[Magnetic Synthesizer]

Can something be made of of anything other than random, deterministic or fixed attributes?

 

I use a Information Matrix view of the universe. It's the most universal and versatile in it's ability to create a model of reality with it.

 

A random attribute has properties that change overtime undetermined by the previous state of reality.

A deterministic attribute has properties fully predictable from reality.

A fixed attribute has innalieably properties  but can't change over time. It does not require a cause.

 

An Information that change overtime undetermined by the previous state of reality or anything in other words.

An Information that is determined by another piece of information.

An Information that cannot be changed. Like a natural law (such as one that governs relationships between other pieces of information).

 

You can combine the attributes, for example, to achieve specific probability distributions.

You have one random component. Then you have a fixed component that limits what is possible from the random component (ex: annihilating everything)

Then you can also have a deterministic attribute that estbalishes in relation with the attributes of other things, an outcome for which it is attributed to.

 

[thebeardslastcall]

Full predictability doesn't follow from deterministic.

[Will Torbald]

The universe could also be unfolding instead of causing itself. Like say, you see a man kicking a ball. You think that the ball was launched because the man kicked it. But in an unfolding universe, the ball was sent off flying just as a man was kicking. The event was going to happen, not by causes, but as if it were a movie where props were placed in a scene. That's something that isn't neither random nor caused.

[A4E]

The universe could also be unfolding instead of causing itself. Like say, you see a man kicking a ball. You think that the ball was launched because the man kicked it. But in an unfolding universe, the ball was sent off flying just as a man was kicking. The event was going to happen, not by causes, but as if it were a movie where props were placed in a scene. That's something that isn't neither random nor caused.

This would be a script. And a script would fall under fixed attribute. Am I correct?

 

 

to op: Actually 'random', defined as something new that had no cause, but just sprung into existence, is something that just does not happen. However if you are talking about 'random' as something produced by a number generator, then it would fall under 'caused'.

 

That means you are wrong that something can be random, unless you include external input. Like a creator who is typically not part of this universe could put in new things or take out other things. Akin to ie a board game. If the board game is a universe of itself, then people putting things on the board game, or taking things off will be external input.

[dsayers]

Why do you ask? Not saying you shouldn't. I'm curious as to what leads to somebody thinking about such a thing and investing effort to understand it better.

 

I too have a problem with "random." It's the consistency of matter and energy that allows for us to develop logic and reason.

When I first saw the title, I thought about the way that gravity is an emergent property of matter. After reading the post, I think this would fall under your definition of fixed. Is that correct?

[Kikker]

To offer some other form of abstraction:

Random would be a property which is only affected by time and not space (4th dimension)

Deterministic would be a property which is affected by time and space (4 dimensions)

A fixed attribute would be a property only affected by space and not time (3 dimensions)