saspatz Posted February 3, 2017 Posted February 3, 2017 By "women", I assume you are talking about "quality women" (pardon the term, I can't think of a better one), because let's face it, almost every man ends up with a woman sooner or later. My mother is very much a "quality woman", but my father was dirt-poor when they married, and not only poor, but also short, temperamental, a foreigner, and most tragically, quite uneducated. So I asked my mother some years back what she saw in him, and she said - "I saw the fire of ambition in him". Now, after 25 years of marriage, my father is a successful entrepeneur, highly respected in his milieu, can afford to send his children to top universities in western Europe. So, rephrasing the question of DaVinci, do we have an aisle where I can purchase ambition? I strongly recommend the following resource. http://www.sybervision.com/Discipline/It has been tranformational for me. 1
Gloria Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 For whatever it's worth ..I was attracted to my husband by a few different things. First, during our first meal ...I giggled and he said with a firm tone ..."we aren't going to embarrass ourselves?" as if he were the disciplinarian. To someone's who's biological clock was going off this was huge. It also helped that although his earnings potential were stable as evidenced by his education and employment ...his clothing was off or quirky ...I think he actually had a hem out or something. It made me feel needed ...I saw a need (being able to sew) ...I could contribute. You folks are all correct about the liars and I apologize for the behavior of too many females. I always feel it is very wrong to misrepresent yourself ..although ..I do use some makeup to enhance rather than radically alter ...but while tall ,educated and upon meeting a professional (Later quit for kids) (All serious potential deal breakers) ...I am OK looking and thankfully don't need the cosmetic overwork. The one really interesting thing is my own brother(S) first of all they took a huge interest in how I was raised, they were very protective and made sure my head was on straight. One of them actually tracked down a professional reference about the guy I had just met (now husband). Really...he called everyone he knew (long before social media) to get the real story. He gave me the thumbs up and that has had an amazing impact. It makes me question if we didn't lose something in the concept of arranged marriages , etc. The other interesting thing I noticed is to put yourself in a situation where you compete with the person you are dating. Competition seems to be the quickest way to vet out serious mental problems. The real problem children will reveal themselves quickly. One guy I dated (he was a very smart and good guy ...but said I was too tall)..anyway ..his rule was to not buy gifts for each other ...not even at Christmas ...but instead you should make something. Super good way to get a feel for their skill set and sincerity. Some folks are just drawn to the bad boy or the bad girl or whatever ...Carl Jung writes about it ...usually one person is more "complicated" than the other ...the question is will you make it over that hump when it comes out ...or do you break apart. Men raise your daughters /sisters and more men will be able to find good women.
saspatz Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 For whatever it's worth ..I was attracted to my husband by a few different things. First, during our first meal ...I giggled and he said with a firm tone ..."we aren't going to embarrass ourselves?" as if he were the disciplinarian. To someone's who's biological clock was going off this was huge. It also helped that although his earnings potential were stable as evidenced by his education and employment ...his clothing was off or quirky ...I think he actually had a hem out or something. It made me feel needed ...I saw a need (being able to sew) ...I could contribute. You folks are all correct about the liars and I apologize for the behavior of too many females. I always feel it is very wrong to misrepresent yourself ..although ..I do use some makeup to enhance rather than radically alter ...but while tall ,educated and upon meeting a professional (Later quit for kids) (All serious potential deal breakers) ...I am OK looking and thankfully don't need the cosmetic overwork. The one really interesting thing is my own brother(S) first of all they took a huge interest in how I was raised, they were very protective and made sure my head was on straight. One of them actually tracked down a professional reference about the guy I had just met (now husband). Really...he called everyone he knew (long before social media) to get the real story. He gave me the thumbs up and that has had an amazing impact. It makes me question if we didn't lose something in the concept of arranged marriages , etc. The other interesting thing I noticed is to put yourself in a situation where you compete with the person you are dating. Competition seems to be the quickest way to vet out serious mental problems. The real problem children will reveal themselves quickly. One guy I dated (he was a very smart and good guy ...but said I was too tall)..anyway ..his rule was to not buy gifts for each other ...not even at Christmas ...but instead you should make something. Super good way to get a feel for their skill set and sincerity. Some folks are just drawn to the bad boy or the bad girl or whatever ...Carl Jung writes about it ...usually one person is more "complicated" than the other ...the question is will you make it over that hump when it comes out ...or do you break apart. Men raise your daughters /sisters and more men will be able to find good women. The role of involved fathers and other male relatives in a girls upbringing and later dating life can not be overstressed. 1
meetjoeblack Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 There is content but it is very much so nuanced and far from the mainstream. As much as I like Stefan and FDR, when the topic of such content comes up, Stefan is up on his high horse and moralizing about it. The reality being that women are not waiting for marriage nor are men. Yes, the data definitely shows a alternative lifestyle but, there is a better way of attracting women then courting, buying a ring, and swearing away half your shit. It is okay in society on how to manipulate men. Look at the cover of any cosmo mag on how to seduce men. Public outrage would kick off if there was the same content for men. It is about as manipulative as the so called women march which again is to get the men engaged.
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