themortalgod Posted February 24, 2017 Posted February 24, 2017 So, at the recommendation of some folk on this forum I've been tinkering with online dating and so far had very little success. One thing I noticed, though, is that the frequency of women who write "feminist" in their profiles is really high which certainly compounds the issue. Today, though, I discovered an advanced search feature on the site which allowed me to search based on the answer to questions so I decided, out of curiosity to filter based on political identity. When I filter to include women (21-30) that identify as "liberal/left wing" I am met with thousands of profiles found. If I filter for women who identify as "centrist/other" only 42 results are returned. Finally, if I filter based on conservative/right wing only 2 results are returned. This was quite interesting to me as I know that it isn't likely that 99.9% of women are Liberal. Which got me to thinking about trying to make sense of these results, off hand I have a few potential theories, but am not able to test them so was wondering what everyone else thinks or if I'm missing something:1. I live in a very Liberal city (Vancouver), thus an extreme split might actually be real. 2. Conservative and moderate women are not drawn to online dating 3. Conservative and moderate women are listing themselves as Liberal when they are not as they believe showing their true beliefs are too dangerous even in an anonymous setting 4. There is something wrong with the search algorithm that the site is using. Thoughts, feelings, suggestions? This, naturally, comes from a personal desire to date but it also has me quite curious and interested. I expected leftists to be the majority, but certainly not over 99%.
shirgall Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 I lived in Portland, Oregon, and it was a miserable market. I met my wife when she brought a friend of hers to one of my gun classes. You might find that focusing on an aspect of philosophy with external activities and focusing meeting people doing that activity will give you some exposure. Traditional answer is church, for example, but there are also political forums, speeches, prepper parties (some organizations do group buys of supplies, group canning, workshops), going to get your book signed by an author...
Gloria Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 I'm not proud LOL I picked my husband up on line , close to twenty years ago. I am a born conservative. I did not however , put my pic and profile out there ...oh no ...I am not that bait. No lady would shame herself! LOL Put your own pic out there with a well written profile ...hook in the water and wait. Now ...times have seriously changed ...if the majority of the women are liberal ...your hook may be in the wrong pond. A very, very dear friend of mine once said ...find a man with a hobby! Cars, etc. The oldest joke in the book about college is the Mrs. degree ...nice girls know where to look ....I think :-) Good Luck! 1
themortalgod Posted February 26, 2017 Author Posted February 26, 2017 I'm not proud LOL I picked my husband up on line , close to twenty years ago. I am a born conservative. I did not however , put my pic and profile out there ...oh no ...I am not that bait. No lady would shame herself! LOL Put your own pic out there with a well written profile ...hook in the water and wait. Now ...times have seriously changed ...if the majority of the women are liberal ...your hook may be in the wrong pond. A very, very dear friend of mine once said ...find a man with a hobby! Cars, etc. The oldest joke in the book about college is the Mrs. degree ...nice girls know where to look ....I think :-) Good Luck! Ha, I suspect you are right about the wrong pond thing. I'm wondering, though if its the wrong pond in that I'm trying online dating or its the wrong pond in that I live in the wrong city. I have been joining social groups as well. (Mostly around outdoor activities such as climbing and hiking, its super uber liberal leaning as well though. ). I have attended some more right wing events (Red Pill screening for example) They tend to be sausage fests though. It is curious though, dating life aside, I can't imagine that its actually true that in this city (or ones like it) that liberalism is quite literally 99%+ that seems insane to me. That number must be skewed somehow.
Rventurelli Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 Ha, I suspect you are right about the wrong pond thing. I'm wondering, though if its the wrong pond in that I'm trying online dating or its the wrong pond in that I live in the wrong city. I have been joining social groups as well. (Mostly around outdoor activities such as climbing and hiking, its super uber liberal leaning as well though. ). I have attended some more right wing events (Red Pill screening for example) They tend to be sausage fests though. It is curious though, dating life aside, I can't imagine that its actually true that in this city (or ones like it) that liberalism is quite literally 99%+ that seems insane to me. That number must be skewed somehow. Be mindful that if you have a car, your possibilities expand dramatically.
themortalgod Posted February 26, 2017 Author Posted February 26, 2017 Be mindful that if you have a car, your possibilities expand dramatically. Ha, I've set the search to search out several hundred km in all directions
Rventurelli Posted February 26, 2017 Posted February 26, 2017 Online dating has all sorts of problems due to its pre-selected crowd. What I would recommend is to try to use proxy interests as a form to meet people, even if it is online. For example, there is this social media website about music called Tastebuds that help you find people with a similar music taste to yours. Was able to get two dates out of it. One was a self-described Fascist and the other one a social conservative. Also chatted for a while with another one who was Alternative Right. Most people do not realize it, but you can very accurately judge someone's ideology by their time killers.
mgggb Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 So, at the recommendation of some folk on this forum I've been tinkering with online dating and so far had very little success. One thing I noticed, though, is that the frequency of women who write "feminist" in their profiles is really high which certainly compounds the issue. Today, though, I discovered an advanced search feature on the site which allowed me to search based on the answer to questions so I decided, out of curiosity to filter based on political identity. When I filter to include women (21-30) that identify as "liberal/left wing" I am met with thousands of profiles found. If I filter for women who identify as "centrist/other" only 42 results are returned. Finally, if I filter based on conservative/right wing only 2 results are returned. This was quite interesting to me as I know that it isn't likely that 99.9% of women are Liberal. Which got me to thinking about trying to make sense of these results, off hand I have a few potential theories, but am not able to test them so was wondering what everyone else thinks or if I'm missing something: 1. I live in a very Liberal city (Vancouver), thus an extreme split might actually be real. 2. Conservative and moderate women are not drawn to online dating 3. Conservative and moderate women are listing themselves as Liberal when they are not as they believe showing their true beliefs are too dangerous even in an anonymous setting 4. There is something wrong with the search algorithm that the site is using. Thoughts, feelings, suggestions? This, naturally, comes from a personal desire to date but it also has me quite curious and interested. I expected leftists to be the majority, but certainly not over 99%. Women are natural conformists. Find one that is just saying stupid things because thats what all her friends say and reason her into submission.
themortalgod Posted March 15, 2017 Author Posted March 15, 2017 So been continually trying out this online dating thing over the last couple weeks and have made some interesting observations in addition to the ones above: - Seattle is close enough to Vancouver that the "system" doesn't allow me to filter out them as results. Which is really unfortunate as I have zero interest in a long distance relationship. (and I'd consider crossing a national border and a 3h long distance even if the dating site doesn't). Because Seattle results are mixed in though, I've noticed some really interesting things. 1. There is at least a 20:1 ratio of profiles from Seattle as there are profiles from Vancouver even though both cities are about the same size. This suggests that the Vancouver sampling is actually really limited relative to the population as a whole which might explain my initial observations above. 2. The Seattle results represent a much more diverse pool of profiles. Women ranging from a 1 to 10, conservative to liberal. Varying viewpoints, etc. It feels like a representation of the population. Meanwhile the Vancouver profiles skew very heavily towards the liberal and unattractive end of the spectrum. Other than fake scam accounts there are almost no profiles that would be above a 6 or 7 and certainly no 9s or 10s. Tons of blue hair though. Which makes me wonder if there is something about the culture in this city specifically that makes it less likely for women to use online dating which would explain why my previous experience had pointed to such a rough experience.Which has me quite curious as to what about the local cultures that contribute to such a stark difference between the two. Any ideas? I've never been to Seattle so really can't comment on it.
shirgall Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 I've never been to Seattle so really can't comment on it. I live near Seattle now and I'm really glad I'm married. My 20-year-old daughter complains that it is worse than Portland...
themortalgod Posted March 15, 2017 Author Posted March 15, 2017 I live near Seattle now and I'm really glad I'm married. My 20-year-old daughter complains that it is worse than Portland... hahah, which kinda shows how "bad" Vancouver is if Seattle looks so much better In comparison.
themortalgod Posted March 15, 2017 Author Posted March 15, 2017 Further interesting information. haha I have more fun analyzing the patterns in these apps than the actual dating. After asking around it seems most women in Vancouver now prefer "Bumble" to all the other social media apps because it blocks men from taking the lead. They much prefer being presented with a buffet of men and choosing based on their desires with no ability for the men to take initiative. Their business model appears to be giving men the ability to show up on women's "buffet" for longer. That kinds says a lot about the culture hahah. (And is kinda insane to me, there is no way I'd be interesting in just putting my face up and "waiting" for someone to pick me and hoping they are good match. That sounds like online dating for omega males to me. )
thecurrentyear Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 Further interesting information. haha I have more fun analyzing the patterns in these apps than the actual dating. After asking around it seems most women in Vancouver now prefer "Bumble" to all the other social media apps because it blocks men from taking the lead. They much prefer being presented with a buffet of men and choosing based on their desires with no ability for the men to take initiative. Their business model appears to be giving men the ability to show up on women's "buffet" for longer. That kinds says a lot about the culture hahah. (And is kinda insane to me, there is no way I'd be interesting in just putting my face up and "waiting" for someone to pick me and hoping they are good match. That sounds like online dating for omega males to me. ) Yes this is totally backwards! A lady putting up a profile online is just this century's version of dressing up and walking the boardwalk with your girlfriends. Guys should definitely still make the first move, if at all possible. Ladies can definitely make hints however. Like "I wish a guy like you would ask me out." But never ask him out on a date.
themortalgod Posted March 15, 2017 Author Posted March 15, 2017 Yes this is totally backwards! A lady putting up a profile online is just this century's version of dressing up and walking the boardwalk with your girlfriends. Guys should definitely still make the first move, if at all possible. Ladies can definitely make hints however. Like "I wish a guy like you would ask me out." But never ask him out on a date. Personally, I'd prefer it to just be open to whoever wants to take the initiative. The idea that "men" should be forced to patiently wait while the women select who they want is insane to me. I didn't install it for giggles and its pretty obvious that the local crowd on bumble is much much bigger so it does seem to be wear the Vancouver ladies are.
violet Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 My point of view (no statistics to back it up though): - Canadians are rather liberal overall - British Columbia is more liberal than some of the other provinces - women are more liberal than the men - younger women are more liberal than older generations - urban centres are more liberal than rural areas So I'd say if you're interested in young, female urbanites around the area of Vancouver, the results seem accurate enough to me. I'm a millennial woman in a largely liberal Canadian city too. It wouldn't surprise me if 99% of the young women identified as leftists and/or feminists. I've had relatively conservative friends, but they weren't white and dated/married within their cultures, i.e. they weren't in the online dating world. EDIT: Actually, thinking about it, the women that are more conservative usually seem to have some kind of wider community around them that is making them so. It's related to religion in my experience, so you see Christian or Islamic women with conservative views. Because they are part of community, they have real-life options for dating and wouldn't need online sources as much. 1
themortalgod Posted March 23, 2017 Author Posted March 23, 2017 My point of view (no statistics to back it up though): - Canadians are rather liberal overall - British Columbia is more liberal than some of the other provinces - women are more liberal than the men - younger women are more liberal than older generations - urban centres are more liberal than rural areas So I'd say if you're interested in young, female urbanites around the area of Vancouver, the results seem accurate enough to me. I'm a millennial woman in a largely liberal Canadian city too. It wouldn't surprise me if 99% of the young women identified as leftists and/or feminists. I've had relatively conservative friends, but they weren't white and dated/married within their cultures, i.e. they weren't in the online dating world. EDIT: Actually, thinking about it, the women that are more conservative usually seem to have some kind of wider community around them that is making them so. It's related to religion in my experience, so you see Christian or Islamic women with conservative views. Because they are part of community, they have real-life options for dating and wouldn't need online sources as much. Ha, seems about right. I've always felt being a non religious right winger leads to a pretty lonesome life haha.
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