aviet Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 There is a girl in my town who is about 24 and recently had a baby with a much older guy. I think he's in his forties and he is notoriously untrustworthy among other things. He has about 4-5 children with different women. Before hooking up with this guy another guy was interested in her. His lot in life is no better than the father of her child, but doesn't have the father's baseless confidence and bad boy appeal. She cast this potential suitor away.Today I heard the girl say, "I am over my fuckboi phase. I'm looking for a gentleman."This girl has had a terrible life and I feel it is going to get much worse. When she was 20, she was with another guy who was about 38. I only met him once, during which time he made an argument on the imperative of hitting your children. She was also abused.As the conversation went on, it is obvious that she is clueless that her sexual market value has just gone through the floor. She was completely oblivious of the ideas that go through many men's minds when they come across a single mother - that is that they are an easy target for a liaison. Personally, I am not interested in a single mother, but if I was not better principled, I'm sure it's something I would entertain as a short sojourn. I've also heard on this forum, a guy who was pursuing a single mother, but essentially knew he was not planning on sticking around long and tried to cover up to himself his true intentions.I couldn't find any studies that shed light on this. A search mainly threw up articles on why all single mothers are virtuous, powerful and deserve a medal and are so unfortunate as having to navigate a maze of immature and stupid men. So, I am going anecdotal. How have you seen the romantic expectations of single mothers change over time? As an extra note, personally I think it's unlikely that a gentleman would be interested in a girl who had a fuckboi phase.
meetjoeblack Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 I could be mistaken but, I knew from a young age, a significant portion of women were leftist, were pro choice, sloot gonna sloot, and dedicated to squandering their youth. It blows me away. I met a chick off tinder. Late twenty something. She was a jump off. I have friends who date a lot and even really good guys get the same nonsense. I feel like if I wasn't mentally tough, I would be mgtow by now. I have several women in my life from the past that are single moms. Of course, they would do anything to get me back in their life but. they dropped the ball. They made their bed. They got to lie in it now. I thought there be more advice here with respect to this. I don't feel there is or I have not yet seen it. I have heard a lot of chatter that its easy or ok but, they have then gone onto contradict themselves. Approach a lot. Risk failure and rejection. There is no alternative. Take your chances. Stake a claim int he dating market like youd o the business world. Bet on yourself. Call all in.
thecurrentyear Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 I think you have the causation flipped. Women with low standards become single mothers. Single mothers *by definition* have low standards. It takes a herculean effort to right the ship. Why are you hanging around such low value women? I think we've talked about this before. Stop taking on crazy-ass projects and work on yourself, find a good woman (she will want nothing to do with you as long as these skanks are around), and have kids. Good luck.
aviet Posted March 2, 2017 Author Posted March 2, 2017 I think you have the causation flipped. Women with low standards become single mothers. Single mothers *by definition* have low standards. It takes a herculean effort to right the ship. Why are you hanging around such low value women? I think we've talked about this before. Stop taking on crazy-ass projects and work on yourself, find a good woman (she will want nothing to do with you as long as these skanks are around), and have kids. Good luck. Flipped: Good point. Hadn't thought of it like that. Hooking up with an unattractive guy 20 years your age, who has four random kids, owes money all over town, multiple failed businesses, history of drug use, having to leave town and cry-for-help suicide attempts isn't exactly a high standard to start with. The only other point of reference I have for single mothers is a woman who has five kids. I think they have multiple fathers. She's unattractive and has nothing going for her. But she's happily married now ... to a perennial candidate for the Green Party. This isn't someone I hang around with. They just happened to be there. The other project/person you're referring to wasn't/isn't a prospect. But you did happen to be right about them. They've shown themselves to be manipulative, so they're gone.
thecurrentyear Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 ...wasn't/isn't a prospect. Doesn't matter. Stay far away. Proximity gives the wrong vibe/energy and will block out the good people.
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