Soulfire Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I'll be as brief as I can here... 1. Erwin, you're hilarious! Keep up the comedy; I like your style. Also, don't "Not an argument" me. Yes, I'm using that as a verb but that's Stefan's method for when he isn't smart enough to directly address an issue. Don't make yourself look ignorant. It's a bad look on anyone. 2. RichardY, since I like you, I'll be kindest to your criticisms (I don't mean negative criticism; I mean the scholarly kind, I'm sure). Yes, if Mexicans cross the border illegally, that does make them criminals in that regard, I won't contest that. I'd want to get myself the f*ck out of there, to be fair, but I wonder what the approval rate would be for someone trying to do it legally (i.e. how likely would they be to get the go-ahead from the American side of things)? They can't ALL be drug-smuggling, gun-toting criminals, eh? Just do it legally and see how far you get; it's not that hard. As for the "Fall to your knees" thing, that's creepy coming from any guy and I don't care how old they are. 3. Jim, that's my dad's name, so, again, I'll be nice (I'm a daddy's girl, LOL). To address your first point, alright, I'll be humble enough and say that I don't know THAT much about it, but it just sounds so ugly coming from Trump and especially after Obama never actually implemented that policy. Yes, maybe he did have a list but he never implemented it. Trump did. On your second point, what I said to Rich applies here as well, but I think "flood across our borders" is an overstatement. I think. How many migrants from Mexico do you guys get a year? I'm Canadian, see, so I don't know the American stats. On your third point, like you say, nonissue, and I'm sure you could find a mountain of evidence to support either side's argument now, so who cares? Number four, abortion is actually illegal after a certain amount of time (I think four or five months...?) because it's way too dangerous after a baby has reached a certain size. That's in Canada, mind you. I don't know the law on that in America. But that's for safety reasons. If we're talking about morality, I already explained where I stand on that and I'm not taking any of it back. On your last point...still f*ckin' creepy. There you are, lads (and lasses?). You can dispute with me all you like but I'm not changing my opinions without a solid reason for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardY Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Soulfire said: 2. RichardY, since I like you, I'll be kindest to your criticisms (I don't mean negative criticism; I mean the scholarly kind, I'm sure). Yes, if Mexicans cross the border illegally, that does make them criminals in that regard, I won't contest that. I'd want to get myself the f*ck out of there, to be fair, but I wonder what the approval rate would be for someone trying to do it legally (i.e. how likely would they be to get the go-ahead from the American side of things)? They can't ALL be drug-smuggling, gun-toting criminals, eh? Just do it legally and see how far you get; it's not that hard. As for the "Fall to your knees" thing, that's creepy coming from any guy and I don't care how old they are. I don't know what the approval rate would be, approval is not a basis of justice, even if it is the basis of a Democracy. I'm not an American, but as an Englishman I can speak with experience from being in an area of England with the highest amount of immigration up until the migrant crisis. To put ratios it into perspective Boston is 50% Polish speaking. Spalding another local town is 30% Polish Speaking, Peterborough the fastest growing city in the UK(Eastern European, Muslims, Home counties) had a primary school with 0% native speaking English children sometime a go. I'm ambivalent to Eastern European immigration, on the one hand I would be liable to do the same for a better standard of living. Plus that fact large numbers of Islamists want to saw people heads off, so the groups balance one another(though a good chunk of the former would probably move back).... On the other-hand it externalises cost onto the future and present through debt, slavery, pollution, de-industrialisation, communication, legal costs etc.. I think Stefan mentioned the total prison of France was 60%+ Muslims. Millions of pounds in large equipment agricultural theft in the UK, a neighbour down the lane had a lawn mower nicked the person left it in a field. Personally there is no one I care about. But still, maybe I might in the future and life is creativity. Actually thinking of where I could move to easily and continue to subsist, if only because things are getting more entertaining. Yeah it is kind of creepy/sexually suggestive, but it is still an Entertainment show that people like to watch, highs and lows. But he is being honest, even though it may detract from his power in politics.The Clintons aren't exactly known for being aboveboard in sexual and violent behaviour. Rape, affairs, defending child abuse etc. Either Trump or Clinton would have been interesting. Hillary: May well have started WW3 with no fly zone and shutdown censor alternative media as she talked about(as in Europe). Trump: With Trump things are more on a knife edge, personally if anyone could prevent absolute chaos it would be him. If I were American I would have voted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Soulfire said: don't "Not an argument" me. Yes, I'm using that as a verb but that's Stefan's method for when he isn't smart enough to directly address an issue. Not An Argument. 4 hours ago, Soulfire said: Don't make yourself look ignorant. It's a bad look on anyone. Keep your emotions in check. It's a bad look on a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Soulfire said: Erwin, you're hilarious! Keep up the comedy; I like your style. Thanks. It's called wisdom. Sounds like you're not used to it. I take it your still single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Lawrence Moore Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Why is everyone engaging with a snowflake? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 2 hours ago, Dylan Lawrence Moore said: Why is everyone engaging with a snowflake? For the lulz LULZ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfire Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Erwin, firstly, "you're" (as in "I take it YOU'RE still single), and secondly, no, I'm not, if that's any of your (YOUR) business. Your = Possessive, "your blanket, your house", etc. You're = "You are". Okay, grammar lesson over, but for the cowboy, what do you mean by "snowflake"? I suppose that would be a reference to the so-called "snowflake generation", where they're all told that they're "special" and all that shit. Nope. I'm just educated, but by very liberally-minded people. I've always been very liberal myself, so for all of you conservative people, I suppose that would explain everything, yes? Stefan is always arguing against "the left", which just perpetuates the time-honoured "us versus them" bullshit. If we can't find a way to work together, we're fucked. We're just going to keep making the same mistakes as our ancestors, and honestly, don't we know better by now? With all our knowledge, with all our technology, STILL, after thousands of years, we have not solved the "us versus them" dichotomy. How boring, really...are we no better than children? I'd like to work WITH all of you, rather than against all of you, so how shall we reconcile this without either so-called "side" having to compromise their beliefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Soulfire said: If we can't find a way to work together, we're fucked. Soulfire, you're hilarious! Keep up the comedy; I like your style. Also, "we" aren't fucked. Just you people. This idea that you low-IQ sex-deviant arts major welfare recipients consider yourselves our equals.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfire Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Again, you fall to the "us versus them" dichotomy. By "we" I mean the human race generally. Also, please don't insult my intelligence. I'm not a stupid woman. But you're CLEARLY a troll and I don't know what you're still doing here, so I'm ignoring you from now on. Toodles, cutie-pie! ♥ Would anyone else like to talk to me as if I were a human being rather than a subhuman animal? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Soulfire said: I'm not a stupid woman. This is a self-contradictory statement. 11 hours ago, Soulfire said: Toodles, cutie-pie! ♥ Take care, tuts! ♥ 11 hours ago, Soulfire said: talk to me as if I were a human *woman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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