Syria REDUX

[Wuzzums]

I recently got finished watching the debate between Stefan Molyneux and Bill Mitchell.

Bill's stance was trust Trump because he's smarter than all of us. Which he is.

Stefan's stance was invading the middle east is and has always been a bad idea. Which is true.

 

Speaking as an ancap/libertarian/voluntarist, I have never bothered with politics because there's no point fighting against that which we cannot change. Before Trump's election the world had a different view on politics than today. Politicians make a lot of promises, we "vote" and if we're really, really lucky maybe a tiny fraction of those promises will be kept.

 

I used to laugh at people that got so involved into politics to the point they were genuinely shocked when a politician didn't keep their promise. I still do this to be fair, with this whole Marine Le Pen hype. She's a lawyer, a career politician, a woman, and a socialist. Who does she remind you of?

 

Anyways, I got invested in Trump not because of his policies but because of the man himself. He fought against literally everyone and won. I genuinely believe that if there's anyone that could put a halt or slow down the machine of power known as the state it would be him. I can't think of anyone else who could do it. Well, maybe Batman but crime-fighting billionaire playboys don't exi--

 

 

So where I'm getting at is what if the the cogs of the warmachine with Syria were put into motion and Trump couldn't stop it? What if the "most powerful man on Earth" doesn't really have that much power?

A lot of shady stuff has been going on in Trump's cabinet with Bannon being pushed further away, Trump loyalists getting kicked out and neocons brought in, the corrupt media suddenly doing an 180 literally over night, other globalists start praising him, and so on.

 

How much of these events is Trump and how much is deep state?

How could we possibly even know the difference at this point?

 

I think this is the most important question. It used to be simple. Are the democrats, McCain, Merkel, MSM, etc upset? Then it's Trump. Now's I'm just confused who's doing what. There's no point in debating x decision was right or wrong when we don't even have a method of determining if he's the one that's making it.

 

So what do you guys think? Are these high-ranking state officials just glorified poster boys (and girls) or does the office actually hold power?

[DaVinci]

I don't see this as being too dissimilar from Obama. Hope! Change! Eh, turns out he's more of the same. They all make promises they don't keep, or say things they can't actually do, or say things they won't do that they end up doing.

 

Is a promise being kept a sign of someone changing the game, or is it a sign of sophisticated and subtle manipulation? I think we all know what the answer to that question is, even if we don't want to admit it. These aren't saints we're dealing with. 

[Gavitor]

My faith was never high with Trump to begin with but I do get why people voted for him and are upset with how things are going especially after this. I look at it this way, either way fucked up shit was gonna happen with Hillary and at least there was (still is) a chance that Trump will have some positive affect. He's already done some good things, I wasn't expecting perfection from the guy and sure as hell don't agree with this stupid meddling in the middle east but he isn't all bad. Just don't forget we are still dealing with a corrupt institution run by assholes with guns, this isn't a group with everyone's best interest at heart.

[oaksdave]

The ship of State is very large and heavy. To expect one man to sail it as if it were a skiff is naive.

[ofd]

Obama was pressured just as much, yet he resisted. It's time to wake up to the option that the Trump supporters have been had and that Trump is a reality TV show host who buckles under pressure or worse that he never intended to implement his positions from the campaign.