conservativism Ready for our "Easy Rider"

[RamynKing]

Bill Whittle had mentioned that Easy Rider was the big turning point that signaled the shift from the Right to the Left culturally. 

Now that "conservatism is the new counterculture," I'm wondering what the Rightist Easy Rider would look like. (Easy Righter?) (Uber Driver?) (Anarchy Self-Driving Car?)

Easy Rider sold a certain set of values in a cool package. Could the same be done in the other direction? One wouldn't have recreational drug use, free love, cross-country advenure, or wild fashion to offer up as fun incentives.

The right also doesn't have stereotypical boogie men like rednecks in pickup trucks and cops to get fictionally oppressed by in a movie.

Maybe I have a lack of vision! Maybe my idea of fun and cool is still tied to the hedonism of the left because I grew up buying into it.

I'd love to hear ideas on themes that an aspiring writer might chew on in creating a new landmark cultural film that somehow coolifies the right.

Side note:
I've never seen Easy Rider! I'm 35 and I love film, but I just haven't gotten around to some of those classics. Clockwork orange is another one that nags me.

But from the plot summary, it says the main characters are coming off of a lucrative coke sale! My question is, for all the persecution these guys seemingly suffer, is it lost on the audience that they could indeed be heartless thugs participating in a blood-soaked black market for the sole purpose of making an easy dollar?

 

 

[Siegfried von Walheim]

2 hours ago, RamynKing said:

Bill Whittle had mentioned that Easy Rider was the big turning point that signaled the shift from the Right to the Left culturally. 

Now that "conservatism is the new counterculture," I'm wondering what the Rightist Easy Rider would look like. (Easy Righter?) (Uber Driver?) (Anarchy Self-Driving Car?)

Easy Rider sold a certain set of values in a cool package. Could the same be done in the other direction? One wouldn't have recreational drug use, free love, cross-country advenure, or wild fashion to offer up as fun incentives.

Maybe it's because I'm K-selected, but I don't find them to be at all fun incentives, and I've grown up in a very Leftist berg. Perhaps Easy Rider mainly only appealed to the r-selected of the times?

 

2 hours ago, RamynKing said:

The right also doesn't have stereotypical boogie men like rednecks in pickup trucks and cops to get fictionally oppressed by in a movie.

We have Antifa, the Red Guard, the SJW, the Divorce Corps, etc. It's not hard to invent fictional villains based on real ones. According to Wikipedia the move ends with rednecks killing the heroes; an easy parallel would be Antifa stormtroopers singing the Internationale while napalming the protagonists. I doubt any viewers will be sympathetic of the Leftists when their terrorist wings are publicized on cinema and are used as the cause for the hero's downfall.

Heck if I were a film writer I'd make a character duo like Stef and Mike the main characters, using the framework of Easy Rider made Rightist. Basically the Philosopher Kings would be a pair of activists seeking to be both the figurative and literal man shouting in front of and against the mob, seeking to prevent an otherwise imminent danger.

 

2 hours ago, RamynKing said:

Maybe I have a lack of vision! Maybe my idea of fun and cool is still tied to the hedonism of the left because I grew up buying into it.

I'd love to hear ideas on themes that an aspiring writer might chew on in creating a new landmark cultural film that somehow coolifies the right.

Easy: the plague of Statism; degeneracy; Lefitst violence; political violence in general; the "Hard men create soft times; soft times create soft men; soft men create hard times; hard times create hard men" cycle; peaceful parenting; individualism (i.e. praising the merits of the great individuals who do XY or Z to save the A from the threat of B, by creating or doing C.); Nationalism as opposed to Globalism; Racial realism as opposed to racial "blindness"; Antifa compared to the Sons of Odin (or some other modern Right Wing protection group); etc. 

There is a bounty of wealth for ideas to be found on the Right that is far more intellectually and humanly stimulating than the hedonism and cynicism of the Left. I don't mean to put down, perhaps the ideas come easy to me because it's what I am currently doing as a novelist, but I'm frankly surprised so few people of my generation (late 90's early 2000's born) and earlier have been able to come up with interesting and enjoyable bits of culture with these themes. 

 

2 hours ago, RamynKing said:

Side note:
I've never seen Easy Rider! I'm 35 and I love film, but I just haven't gotten around to some of those classics. Clockwork orange is another one that nags me.

But from the plot summary, it says the main characters are coming off of a lucrative coke sale! My question is, for all the persecution these guys seemingly suffer, is it lost on the audience that they could indeed be heartless thugs participating in a blood-soaked black market for the sole purpose of making an easy dollar?

 

 

I dunno because the Wikipedia doesn't mention any violence being used to transport the drugs. The heroes may be degenerate but they aren't "evil". 

If I wanted to portray Leftist evils I'd focus on their hypocrisy, "political flexibility", and their love of violence and their dark childhoods. I'd totally make a portrait of evil out of them using the very real facts we know about them in contrast to the generally good-natured and far-sighted Rightists, Libertarians, and Conservatives, with the Stefpai and Mike being my templates for the "ideal Right Wing Hero".

[RamynKing]

Thanks for the robust reply! Lot's to digest.

Where can I read some of your writing? (I hope it's not that one fiction novel that an FDR person put out some months back that I haven't gotten around to yet!)

I'm impressed you find it so easy to come up with these ideas. I'm familiar with the things you mentioned, but when I run them through my mind for entertainment purposes, I run into my walls. I worry about it coming off as square, or pretentious, or boring, or even just way too open to leftists namecalling. I can see the reviews: "RamynKing's new christian climate-denier film is sure to delight Alt-Right White Supremacists, but for actual humans, stay far, far away from this steaming pile of trash."

Of course, that's kind of what makes it edgy. If you can make a story that just makes so many people explode in puritanical rage, then you've got potential on your hands.

Also, if easy rider somewhat capitalized on a timely motorcycle trend, which is not hedonistic in itself, what current trend could a conserva-cool story utilize? I'm imagining someone in an air-conditioned mini-SUV sitting in traffic listening to jordan peterson on youtube and my cool-o-meter is plummeting.

You may have a point about your K-selected nature. I know a large part of me was wrestling with somewhat R-selected upbringings for a long time. I was a hedonist and a nihilist and had to overcome all of that. Maybe this hurdle about what is cool is another step on that journey. Or maybe sometimes you just have to put something out there and say: NO, this is what's cool now!

[Siegfried von Walheim]

1 hour ago, RamynKing said:

Thanks for the robust reply! Lot's to digest.

Lol I have been called verbose before... 

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Where can I read some of your writing? (I hope it's not that one fiction novel that an FDR person put out some months back that I haven't gotten around to yet!)

My writing? Let's just say I know a guy, and he's really into my ideas, and when that guy publishes the novel he's been spending five years on since middle school, I'll be the first to share it on FDR to both generate feedback and funds for this good friend of mine. 

 

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I'm impressed you find it so easy to come up with these ideas. I'm familiar with the things you mentioned, but when I run them through my mind for entertainment purposes, I run into my walls. I worry about it coming off as square, or pretentious, or boring, or even just way too open to leftists namecalling. I can see the reviews: "RamynKing's new christian climate-denier film is sure to delight Alt-Right White Supremacists, but for actual humans, stay far, far away from this steaming pile of trash."

Quite simply, you have to change your mindset. I used to be a radical Leftist back when I was first exposed to it in early high school (note: I am 19, so I was 14-15 when I was a Leftist) and therefore know what kinds of "the means are always justified by the ends" kinds of guys they really are, and know what kind of childhoods they've had and what their real motivations for being virtue-signalling Redshirts are. 

Like I said I've been writing for a long time, pretty much ever since I got bored in middle school 'cause I'd always finish my assignments quickly then retreat to the caverns of my imagination until the bell rang. I don't know how or why I'm good at coming up with ideas for film and literature, I just am, and I'm heavily inspired by a lot of things ranging from the Stefpai to my old dogmas to Objectivism, to my own personal fantasies as a troubled kid. 

I've always been an outcast (at least until I started self-knowledge and all that) and am therefore immune to peer ostracism or non-productive criticism, unless it comes from someone I highly respect and consider an authority it some way.  If I were to hypothetically write something with deep Rightist themes, I'd start off humble but once I became famous for it I'd follow the new path of self-publishing and self-promoting. Traditional publishing is a good way to get famous; modern self-publishing is a good way to both make good money and make a positive impact on the world. 

 

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Of course, that's kind of what makes it edgy. If you can make a story that just makes so many people explode in puritanical rage, then you've got potential on your hands.

We'll see if my friend does or not, we're both eagerly doing our utmost to ensure it's well-written and has what I intend to be the point at the forefront rather than something unintended. 

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Also, if easy rider somewhat capitalized on a timely motorcycle trend, which is not hedonistic in itself, what current trend could a conserva-cool story utilize? I'm imagining someone in an air-conditioned mini-SUV sitting in traffic listening to jordan peterson on youtube and my cool-o-meter is plummeting.

Conserva-cool for my generation is men marching in the streets chanting "Die Islam; Viva Europa". We're highly cynical of the elders that screwed us over and am hungry for violent change to both secure for ourselves a future and spite the parasites. However we're not all in agreement about what to do after that; we stand the risk of repeating the mistakes of the past and becoming the new Fascists or Communists (what's the difference, really).  That's why my friend want's to make sure people have Stefanist principles in mind before they start going crazy and doing radical things that may or may not affect change for the better. We're hot and angry, but we're not wise nor tempered. 

 

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You may have a point about your K-selected nature. I know a large part of me was wrestling with somewhat R-selected upbringings for a long time. I was a hedonist and a nihilist and had to overcome all of that.

To some degree I sympathize; I was always K-selected but I had Leftist ideals, I was odd amongst the Leftists I knew because of this. Eventually when I stopped holding my ears and wishing for a Papa Stalin to save the day, I grew up and became a blank-slate Nationalist, then NatCap, then AnCap. I still have growing to do, but I think I've made the most radical changes in my personal view of the world and political beliefs I am ever going to have already. 

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Maybe this hurdle about what is cool is another step on that journey. Or maybe sometimes you just have to put something out there and say: NO, this is what's cool now!

That, to some degree, is the attitude. But attitude must be met with meat. Why is a philosopher putting his hand in front of the mob cool? Because it shows his bravery and integrity; Joan of Arc is famous and beloved because she martyred herself for France, her courage and love of the French people and the Catholic Church being her (at least from what I know) guiding principles. 

Likewise peaceful parenting and the deep connections between good parents and children, as well as good spouses with each other, are very "cool" when explored in depth for how great they can be. Imagine if you were a child of a single mom without a good personal role model; wouldn't you love  to see what it'd be like for a man with integrity and foresight to be your guiding father, and a woman with empathy and wisdom to be your guiding mother? Imagine if you were a young adult, around my age, in this environment where it seems like all girls are trash and all guys are idiots; wouldn't you love to see an alternative where the wise and K-selected do what they do best? Wouldn't you be warned, if you were not so wise, if you saw what happens from the spectator's seat what the r-selected do and what kind of families they produce? And at the end of it all, the good K-selected reign supreme for their unity, values, and foresight? These ideas, and the hunger for these ideas, as well as creation into reality of these ideas, are very powerful and I am certain that, like Paul Joseph Watson said, Conservatism is the the new punk. Rightism and K-selection is the new ideal to counter the disgusting hypocrisy of the r-selected mob-ruled State.

 

 

EDIT: Heck, study Hitler for how to make counterculture cool. Hans Westmar deified Horst Wessel and made the guy dying for the cause of Nationalism against Communism cool; his speeches often spoke for public charities and the building of strong families; and his goons were made of guys fed up with Socialism and the fragmented family. While they certainly failed royally in solving these problems (I don't need to explain how they failed; persecuting Jews and WWII being the big easy pointers with their slightly altered Communism being the more subtle one) they succeeded in rallying people against the problems and doing something about them. Their films, though old, were pretty good. I watched Hans Westmar back when I used to think this was a good idea, and enjoyed it very much for the human drama of the guy who was raised well and risks himself for his people. While the true story isn't so noble, the principles were there and I enjoyed it.

The bad guys know how to make their ideas popular; I'm not suggesting nor doing anything new in saying how to make Rightism and K-selection popular, I just happen to know how the bad guys and old good guys did it. 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2017 by Siegfried von Walheim

[DaVinci]

2 hours ago, RamynKing said:

I'm impressed you find it so easy to come up with these ideas. I'm familiar with the things you mentioned, but when I run them through my mind for entertainment purposes, I run into my walls. I worry about it coming off as square, or pretentious, or boring, or even just way too open to leftists namecalling. I can see the reviews: "RamynKing's new christian climate-denier film is sure to delight Alt-Right White Supremacists, but for actual humans, stay far, far away from this steaming pile of trash."

 

To be fair, ideas are easy to come up with. Executing on ideas is what is hard, and the better you want your thing to turn out the more work you have to put in.

I think any right leaning film in the realm of something like Easy Rider would be incredibly difficult to pull off. That's in part because people on the right aren't very creative. Not that they aren't creative at all. Just that they aren't anywhere near as creative as people on the left typically are. That's why the "message" of a right leaning film would probably come across to audiences as pretentious, proselytizing, and just plain old boring. It's a failing of the right in general. They know how to speak truthfully, but not in a way that has style, which is appealing and draws people in. 

[Siegfried von Walheim]

Just now, DaVinci said:

To be fair, ideas are easy to come up with. Executing on ideas is what is hard, and the better you want your thing to turn out the more work you have to put in.

True; most idea die with their idealists because they often go undone and un-acted upon. That's why I put in the work every day to ensure I can publish what I'm making, and affect the culture accordingly. The tricky part isn't necessarily doing it, but rather making sure I put myself in the situation to do it. 

Just now, DaVinci said:

I think any right leaning film in the realm of something like Easy Rider would be incredibly difficult to pull off. That's in part because people on the right aren't very creative. Not that they aren't creative at all. Just that they aren't anywhere near as creative as people on the left typically are. That's why the "message" of a right leaning film would probably come across to audiences as pretentious, proselytizing, and just plain old boring. It's a failing of the right in general. They know how to speak truthfully, but not in a way that has style, which is appealing and draws people in. 

The biggest exceptions being Ayn Rand and Stefan, however the fact there are so few in recent history gives credence to your claim. I could argue it's not the weight of many actors of culture that revolutionizes culture, but rather the weight of the few that make the difference. Shakespeare is one guy and yet his works remain with us to this day, and who can say how much of modern English and culture was affected by that one man?

That's why I consider it something of an honor to be both able to affect culture and a Rightist, for I can do far more than most in our camp for this part of our struggle. I encourage all who are skilled at what they do to practice what they do for not only our cause, but for the sake of themselves and their children. Fundamentally our's is a cause for the children. Our children.  

[DaVinci]

42 minutes ago, Siegfried von Walheim said:

True; most idea die with their idealists because they often go undone and un-acted upon. That's why I put in the work every day to ensure I can publish what I'm making, and affect the culture accordingly. The tricky part isn't necessarily doing it, but rather making sure I put myself in the situation to do it. 

The biggest exceptions being Ayn Rand and Stefan, however the fact there are so few in recent history gives credence to your claim. I could argue it's not the weight of many actors of culture that revolutionizes culture, but rather the weight of the few that make the difference. Shakespeare is one guy and yet his works remain with us to this day, and who can say how much of modern English and culture was affected by that one man?

That's why I consider it something of an honor to be both able to affect culture and a Rightist, for I can do far more than most in our camp for this part of our struggle. I encourage all who are skilled at what they do to practice what they do for not only our cause, but for the sake of themselves and their children. Fundamentally our's is a cause for the children. Our children.  

I personally wouldn't consider Stefan to be an exception, though I'll admit that is just my view of it. I think Jordan Peterson is way more of an exception to the right being creative than Stef. After having watched so many of Stef's videos JBP by contrast is way more charming. Granted that's my personal view of it, but I think the growth of JBP's channel is a testament to the attractiveness of his personality. I bet he's going to catch up with Stef quick in terms of subscribers. 

[Siegfried von Walheim]

1 hour ago, DaVinci said:

I personally wouldn't consider Stefan to be an exception, though I'll admit that is just my view of it. I think Jordan Peterson is way more of an exception to the right being creative than Stef. After having watched so many of Stef's videos JBP by contrast is way more charming. Granted that's my personal view of it, but I think the growth of JBP's channel is a testament to the attractiveness of his personality. I bet he's going to catch up with Stef quick in terms of subscribers. 

I think I saw an interview of him and Jordan Peterson once, I don't remember much but I remember liking it. I'll have to give him some of my time before I can fairly judge him, but on Stefpai, I know it's all mostly subjective, but I'd have to say he's very effective considering how obscure AnCap is to the general populace and how much more strides he's making in so short a time relative to AnCap's pioneers and other Libertarian circles. 

[Wuzzums]

11 hours ago, RamynKing said:

Bill Whittle had mentioned that Easy Rider was the big turning point that signaled the shift from the Right to the Left culturally. 

Now that "conservatism is the new counterculture," I'm wondering what the Rightist Easy Rider would look like. (Easy Righter?) (Uber Driver?) (Anarchy Self-Driving Car?)

Easy Rider sold a certain set of values in a cool package. Could the same be done in the other direction? One wouldn't have recreational drug use, free love, cross-country advenure, or wild fashion to offer up as fun incentives.

 

11 hours ago, RamynKing said:

 

The right also doesn't have stereotypical boogie men like rednecks in pickup trucks and cops to get fictionally oppressed by in a movie.

 

Communists and normies.