Mole Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 The world needs more freedom. We know that. How do we get there? Spread knowledge. How do we spread knowledge? Learn the knowledge and learn how to spread it. How? Well, what are we giving to people? Some give knowledge about economics, some philosophy, some ethics, some freedom of speech, some politics, some current affairs, some immigration, some documentaries, ect. There's a lot of components to it. It requires specialisation. Stefan has encouraged a few times for young people to become entrepreneurs for freedom. It seems like a fuzzy buzz word that makes you think of motivation and getting things done but I don't see how to translates into practice. I can understand financial entrepreneurship, starting businesses ect, but what does if have to do with philosophy? What does it mean and how is that different (if it is) than going to university? Maybe education is really going to the dump in America but in Australia, I haven't seen this degradation of education. Maybe it's not about specialisation. Is it a matter of moral courage? Just spreading the 'word'? Maybe it's a matter of spreading UPB and the idea of the false self? The words have already been spoken on this show. I don't think there's much to be courageous about at the moment other than private life matters. I can understand telling friends and family about UPB and about my insecurities but I don't think that's entrepreneurship. I know some stuff sure, but there are other people doing way better than me so I don't understand why an amateur opinion has weight in the free market of ideas. To be an entrepreneur you have to give something of value. That's why I want to go to university and become a psychologist. Perhaps I'll find myself teaching parents about child abuse. Perhaps I'll do something Jordan Peterson style. Perhaps I'll write a book about morality and psychology. Perhaps I'll find out I hate psychology and quit. Perhaps I'll start a YouTube channel. One day I might start a YouTube channel but that's definitely not something I should bet my all time on. I'm still gaining the knowledge for that and I don't know what I don't know. Therefore, I don't know how much efforts that's going to take. That's why you explore. That's why I want to learn about the mind and meet other students and network. Starting a YouTube channel is something you do when it calls to you when you've gained the knowledge required. That's how Stefan started FDR. Debt for university? Sure but why should I worry so much about money? It's the 21st century. I'll be able to afford what I need for a comfortable life. Why put all your eggs in one basket? Money isn't the eggs. Time is the eggs. If you were made out to be a YouTuber why don't both go to university and try starting a channel? Figure out what works and what doesn't. If going to university was the best thing ever you'll be happy you didn't put it off and did it while you were young and could afford to take potentially useless courses. If it was useless going to university what difference does it make? Some money which you didn't really need. Time? No. It doesn't take concentrated effort/time to figure out what makes the world go around. It takes experience and trying different things which there's plenty of time for in university. Once you've figured that out that's the point where you decide whether to stay in university or not. As for spreading knowledge? All the big voices are held up by the pillars of writers, psychologists, economists, etc. If someone is more eccentric than I am, it makes more sense to be their support than to be another voice. People have different personalities. Is everyone cut out to be an entrepreneur? I don't know. And again, there's no issue with both going to university and having a voice. In fact, I'd say it's preferable even if it's a COMPLETELY useless degree. I'm looking forward to joining freedom clubs and debating clubs and making friends with intelligent and like-minded people To summarise, TL;DR: What I'm not understanding is what does Stefan means by entrepreneur. It's ambiguous to me. Is getting a formal education not being an entrepreneur? If you are rational and willing to find what drives you, the only real loss I see in formal education in Australia is money spent that you don't need anyway. If I didn't go to university I'd probably be making a living wage and reading Atlas Shrugged for the rest of the day. I don't know what else I'd possibly want to do. Conversations on this show about being an entrepreneur and breaking the matrix and escapaing the false-self has provoked a black and white thinking inside me and sometimes I believe I must be inferior but perhaps this belief is false.
RichardY Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 Going to University. 1) Papers please. 2)Access to High tech equipment. Entrepreneurship. Say's Law, Supply Creates Demand, where does supply come from, the creativity of the unconscious. Businessman. Consciously using existing and established methods for profit. Freedom. Willingness to embrace suffering and sublimate the Ego to ethics or eliminate it entirely. Slavery. The state of most people consciously or unconsciously.
Dylan Lawrence Moore Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 At this point, going to university can literally make you dumber, put you in debt (practically) forever, and limit your ability to be self-sufficient, financially (I need a job from someone else) and psychologically ("I don't know how to do anything else."). Becoming dumber = less knowledge = less freedom (need knowledge to have more choices available). Increasing debt = less freedom (need to do this thing and not that thing in order to pay off my debt. Less choice) Not self-sufficient = less freedom (always dependent on someone else to pay your bills, unable to figure out a different way to do it) Becoming an entrepreneur makes you more knowledgeable, gives you the opportunity to be in charge of your income, and provides the opportunity to be self-sufficient, financially and psychologically ("Whatever happens, I can figure it out!") More knowledge = more freedom (because more choice available) Control over debt/income = more freedom ("I can leverage debt to make money!") Self-sufficiency = more freedom (develop systems to create passive income, creating more income simply becomes a problem to solve) As an entrepreneur, you are more difficult to manage. You can gauge yourself more appropriately against economic and political turmoil. You're not just a leaf in the wind.
Mole Posted July 15, 2017 Author Posted July 15, 2017 2 hours ago, RichardY said: Going to University. 1) Papers please. 2)Access to High tech equipment. I don't see why we should see university like that. Why can't we see it as a way to be educated? To acquire skills.
Mole Posted July 15, 2017 Author Posted July 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, Dylan Lawrence Moore said: At this point, going to university can literally make you dumber, put you in debt (practically) forever, and limit your ability to be self-sufficient, financially (I need a job from someone else) and psychologically ("I don't know how to do anything else."). Becoming dumber = less knowledge = less freedom (need knowledge to have more choices available). Increasing debt = less freedom (need to do this thing and not that thing in order to pay off my debt. Less choice) Not self-sufficient = less freedom (always dependent on someone else to pay your bills, unable to figure out a different way to do it) Becoming an entrepreneur makes you more knowledgeable, gives you the opportunity to be in charge of your income, and provides the opportunity to be self-sufficient, financially and psychologically ("Whatever happens, I can figure it out!") More knowledge = more freedom (because more choice available) Control over debt/income = more freedom ("I can leverage debt to make money!") Self-sufficiency = more freedom (develop systems to create passive income, creating more income simply becomes a problem to solve) As an entrepreneur, you are more difficult to manage. You can gauge yourself more appropriately against economic and political turmoil. You're not just a leaf in the wind. I think you misinterpreted the title. I do not mean becoming an entrepreneur in order to have more freedom. I mean to become an entrepreneur for the cause of freedom or liberty. I have edited the title.
Dylan Lawrence Moore Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mole said: I think you misinterpreted the title. I do not mean becoming an entrepreneur in order to have more freedom. I mean to become an entrepreneur for the cause of freedom or liberty. I have edited the title. I'm saying they're one in the same.
RichardY Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 29 minutes ago, Mole said: I don't see why we should see university like that. Why can't we see it as a way to be educated? To acquire skills. Up to you, see it as a honeypot if you wish. But they have a monopoly on accreditation. You live in Australia right? why not start a salon(Not the cosmetic kind) somewhere near a university or do event organisation, provide supplementary education a nice relaxed environment (perhaps opportunities to bang hot girls). Learn psychology through people and not as much through books. "Who dare Wins" kind of motto. If you are going to lecture on being an entrepreneur and liberty why not live it?
meetjoeblack Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Dylan Lawrence Moore said: At this point, going to university can literally make you dumber, put you in debt (practically) forever, and limit your ability to be self-sufficient, financially (I need a job from someone else) and psychologically ("I don't know how to do anything else."). Becoming dumber = less knowledge = less freedom (need knowledge to have more choices available). Increasing debt = less freedom (need to do this thing and not that thing in order to pay off my debt. Less choice) Not self-sufficient = less freedom (always dependent on someone else to pay your bills, unable to figure out a different way to do it) Becoming an entrepreneur makes you more knowledgeable, gives you the opportunity to be in charge of your income, and provides the opportunity to be self-sufficient, financially and psychologically ("Whatever happens, I can figure it out!") More knowledge = more freedom (because more choice available) Control over debt/income = more freedom ("I can leverage debt to make money!") Self-sufficiency = more freedom (develop systems to create passive income, creating more income simply becomes a problem to solve) As an entrepreneur, you are more difficult to manage. You can gauge yourself more appropriately against economic and political turmoil. You're not just a leaf in the wind. I totally agree. I spent several years in school and it is a one way flow of SJWs, feminists, and stupidity. It took me a long time to realize that I do have a entrepreneurial mindset but, it was not encouraged. If anything, it was discouraged to do anything but follow the beaten path. I notice it in the workplace as well whereby, if you are not married, wife, and 2.2 children, you are not someone that can be controlled. Management does not approve. You can be seen as a maverick. I have a friend that is a entrepreneur. He was pointing out to me how ineffective it is to pay hourly. I have watched in several companies where workers literally wait out the clock and drive down efficiency because of their hourly wages. Instead, if you were paid for a specific task for a job, people would finish it as effectively and efficiently otherwise, they wouldn't get that work again. Education is drowning. I think there are more value in weekend workshops and alternative programs beyond government education. Unfortunately, the government regulates many professions so, if you want to be a accountant, lawyer, tradesman, doctor, surgeon, etc. you must practice under the beaten path. If there is any alternative ways outside education, I highly recommend it. What pisses me off in my mid 20s, I have met tons of women who are pissing away their lives chasing some career because other women will look down on them. Its similar with sexual conquests and poor decision making. I know a co worker who has her daughter going to a highly prestigious state university for music. She has been warned several times that there is little to no jobs in the field she is pursuing. The parents are spending 10k plus the cost of books and housing as well as food. Its unreal.
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