waywed Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 The conflation of leftism and atheism is probably a reasonable one these days, however the implication seems to be that if I want to be a 'true rightist' then I have to give my atheism and become a Christian. Sorry, but the Plato example Stefan gave applies here. Adopting a mythology for some greater good is something I would never do. I will happily remain an atheist rightist!
shirgall Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 My answer has been that people do find a way to replace one big lie with another one and the real solution is not to indoctrinate them in one in the first place.
Jsbrads Posted September 1, 2017 Posted September 1, 2017 The rightist is a person who doesn't believe everything he is told. To not believe in God is one of the modern beliefs which contradict millennia of critical (non-scientific) thinking. discarding what was without testing new theories is the definition of Leftism. Dont adopt a mythology. Think about the world around yourself critically and decide which is right (despite what people tell you).
Tyler H Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 13 hours ago, Jsbrads said: The rightist is a person who doesn't believe everything he is told. Could you define rightist for me, please?
Boss Posted September 2, 2017 Posted September 2, 2017 " the implication seems to be that if I want to be a 'true rightist' then I have to give my atheism and become a Christian" could you tell me why you feel this implication? I believe Stefan is an anarcho capitalist athiest, so I can never see him implying that. What the facts says however, is atheist tend to be on the left. This is clear from seeing polls on athiest and of course you can look at the brutal history of communism. So the facts may be "implying" that. However, this is vanished from the realization that correlation doesnt equal causation. I also believe Stefan has his peaceful parenting series that he argues to be the solution.
Gnostic Bishop Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 On 01/09/2017 at 6:52 AM, Jsbrads said: To not believe in God is one of the modern beliefs which contradict millennia of critical (non-scientific) thinking. This link and scholar seem to belie what you put. http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2 No? If thinking critically, a supernatural view will be the last thing a mind would ever turn to. That is intellectual dissonance. Regards DL
Jsbrads Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Rightist opposite of Leftist, vague definition. I don't think everyone should drop atheism, merely challenge it intellectually. So many people accept atheism dogmatically. Strive for the truth with an open mind, don't listen to authority. By definition, the creation of our universe is supernatural. If there is a Creator, that is God. The only question we are debating is whether the universe was created by accident or on purpose.
Gnostic Bishop Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 On 27/09/2017 at 3:08 AM, Jsbrads said: Rightist opposite of Leftist, vague definition. I don't think everyone should drop atheism, merely challenge it intellectually. So many people accept atheism dogmatically. Strive for the truth with an open mind, don't listen to authority. By definition, the creation of our universe is supernatural. If there is a Creator, that is God. The only question we are debating is whether the universe was created by accident or on purpose. That debate was been done and both science and religions now both have God of the Gaps. Regards D L
Jsbrads Posted October 1, 2017 Posted October 1, 2017 I don't. God has always been the Creator, to many others too.
Gnostic Bishop Posted October 1, 2017 Posted October 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Jsbrads said: I don't. God has always been the Creator, to many others too. The delusional or those who use faith instead of logic and reason, yes. Not to Gnostic Christians. Please have a look at two quick links and you might end in agreeing. First, before people started believing in supernatural nonsense. http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2 Second, how we created Gods.
Jsbrads Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 As I said on another topic: The difference couldn't be more stark. we both believe in cause and effect atheists just believe the cause is accidental and lucky for us and theists believe it was intentional and not dumb luck
Gnostic Bishop Posted October 3, 2017 Posted October 3, 2017 Yes, while priests, preachers and imams all say that God is unknowable and unfathomable, just before starting to ream off all that they say they know and fathom of God. Priests, preachers and imams are all paid liars. Regards DL
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