How many Jihad attacks or what will it take for the West to wake up?

[Crusader1986]

Ok guys, so let's take a guess. How many terrorist attacks by Muslims will it take for the West to wake up and admit that Islam is at war with us? 100 more attacks? or 500 a year? Or maybe it's not the quantity of attacks that would make a difference but the severity of the attacks. Maybe we are so retarded that it would require a 1 megaton nuke to be smuggled into a Western city and detonated for people's alarm bells to go off and see we have a serious problem here?

[Boss]

It doesnt take Jihad attacks, it takes reason, evidence and courage. Maybe faith judging from the history of the crusades. 
 

[Dylan Lawrence Moore]

The West is waking up. It's just a question of will it happen on a large enough scale in time.

[Siegfried von Walheim]

I think it's less a matter of people being woke but rather of courage. Most western governments protect the migrants (and their American equivalent) from legal/lawful punishment and punish the natives for so much as suggesting there should be punishments for bad behavior or measures to crack down on what's causing it. 

Once western governments are either populated with a Rightist/Christian majority the Europeans/Americans will do what they must or are told in regards to the crisis.

It isn't a matter of wokeness by the populace but a sense of "permission" by the government. Therefore either the government has to redpill (which would be interesting as I doubt that'll happen anytime soon) or the people have to stop fearing the government and take the law into their own hands.

Either way the West is doomed for war unless we can convince the government they'll be re-elected if they kick out the Muslims and/or elect anti-Muslim/anti-crime politicians. 

I seriously recommend migrating to somewhere like Russia if you or anyone you know would rather ditch this mess we've inherited.

[M.2]

The Blitz lasted 8-9 months, killed less than 40 thousand people, and had hardly affected any place outside of London. Had the British govenment decided to hush the happenings of the Blitz, it would have been very easy. Quite simply because hardly anyone in Britain truly felt the Blitz. In fact, the Blitz had to be massively propagandised in order to get the British public to understand that they were at war.

My point is that unless everyone in Europe actually admits to the state of war, and starts assuming responsibility for the terrorist attacks, there will be no illumination. I live in Belgium, which is one of the many countries that ships weapons to Syria. This makes this country a player in the proxy war that is Syria. This is what people have not understood yet. In philosphy, there is no such thing as collective guilt, but in practice, there is. The Belgians, or rather, the Belgian Government has been waging undeclared war in the Middle-East for at least half a century, and the Belgian people voted them in power.

Maybe spreading such a perspective will help people understand what is going on, and why the attacks are occurring. Playing the victim and wondering what is going on is ridiculous.

[RichardY]

Collective Guilt: Yeah in philosophy can't say it accounts for collective guilt,maybe it does somewhere? I agree with C.G Jung that there is a collective unconscious. It is strange passes like echoes, can see it when I was backpacking around Europe. A lot of it related to WW2 or perhaps further back. I mean I could see vending machines for cigarettes in Germany and Austria, which is strange in a way, because they tend to be high  in conscientiousness and clean people. My theory is rather than deal with the immense pain of being firebombed and mass rape, many people chose to smoke. It maybe better to deal with the unfolding and repeating scenario currently and consciously, dismantle the state into smaller entities at least, empower the individual as Jung would say. Though who has the incentive and moral fibre to do so?

Denial: So many seem to be in denial about how things are going, which is strange because I remember members of my family being more accepting of the problems of immigration, cultural change breakdown in law and Order when it was only a fraction of what it was, given over to hedonism, but not to say not hardworking. I think the problems have become so great, they've just gone unconscious, especially considering the costs of modern life in the West. I can not say that I am exempt either.

[lorry]

They need permission, but I don't know that it has to come from the government.