richardbaxter Posted March 30, 2018 Posted March 30, 2018 1. Systems that require suppression of free speech are unstable. 2. The suppression of free speech is the hallmark of incompetence. 3. The only people who suppress speech have something to hide. 4. People who are not mature enough to listen to contrary opinions are not mature enough to participate in a democracy. "Hate speech" is quite possibly the lowest GI concept ever invented. If someone's conclusion from 20th century totalitarianism is that they have to suppress speech, then they have missed the point entirely. If a person has a problem with something said then they should say something about it. This natural correction mechanism only becomes ineffective when one's ability to speak out is suppressed. We have seen this occur too many times in history.
Marshall B Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 On 3/30/2018 at 2:52 PM, richardbaxter said: 1. Systems that require suppression of free speech are unstable. 2. The suppression of free speech is the hallmark of incompetence. 3. The only people who suppress speech have something to hide. 4. People who are not mature enough to listen to contrary opinions are not mature enough to participate in a democracy. "Hate speech" is quite possibly the lowest GI concept ever invented. If someone's conclusion from 20th century totalitarianism is that they have to suppress speech, then they have missed the point entirely. If a person has a problem with something said then they should say something about it. This natural correction mechanism only becomes ineffective when one's ability to speak out is suppressed. We have seen this occur too many times in history. Preach on brotha!
ancapper Posted April 18, 2018 Posted April 18, 2018 On 3/30/2018 at 12:52 PM, richardbaxter said: 1. Systems that require suppression of free speech are unstable. 2. The suppression of free speech is the hallmark of incompetence. 3. The only people who suppress speech have something to hide. 4. People who are not mature enough to listen to contrary opinions are not mature enough to participate in a democracy. "Hate speech" is quite possibly the lowest GI concept ever invented. If someone's conclusion from 20th century totalitarianism is that they have to suppress speech, then they have missed the point entirely. If a person has a problem with something said then they should say something about it. This natural correction mechanism only becomes ineffective when one's ability to speak out is suppressed. We have seen this occur too many times in history. 1. is true. 2. Is false, something something philosophy words logic etc, therefore 3 and 4 are also invalid. The fact is that suppression of speech can be a useful tool, but it is a blunt tool and there are often much efficient (i.e. violates NAP less, locally and globally). We all know that putting people who speak the truth in jail to be insane. But we also need to be aware that there are real fear mongers out there (fear mongers are people who convince other people that their fears are larger than they actually are), and currently putting youtubers in jail is the best solution that the ruling class currently have provided to the people. But the people has a better solution or knows that there's a better solution out there so they will look for it or make noise. One very local solution, of course, is to move to a place that doesn't have those oppressive laws.
fluxrazza Posted April 20, 2018 Posted April 20, 2018 Just finished an article on exactly this. If we fail to realise the value of free speech we are no better than kangaroos: https://steemit.com/philosophy/@fluxrazza/the-case-for-free-speech
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