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I kinda let myself go on this youtube comment, tell me what you think about it: youtube.com/watch?v=8KuFU0rWFfk&lc=z22zwnqblpntzn0he04t1aokgwqkcs01m3esy0pff1mbrk0h00410.1523981343809403

 

 

 

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libertarian frank turner desperately wants to distinguish himself from the alt right. a open border libertarian is completely dogmatic though.

This is the story of America:
>high IQ liberty minded people come together and form a classical liberal nationstate and constitution

>they don't protect the integrity of their nationstate and let dumb/socialist minded people in/don't take the oath of allegiance seriously

>country becomes just another socialist shithole

 

And than we have those who are open border because muh non aggression principle, they are the worse, letting socialists in your country because you would otherwise coerce them is like not fighting back against someone who shoots at you until the bullet has hit the molecules of your skin. So many libertarians seem to be lost and confused in their abstractions, they just can't handle it.

Besides, democracy is not the killer nor the savior, you constantly hear libertarians bashing democracy. Before democracy any shift in political power happened through revolutions: party x demonstrates a threat to ruling political party, either the political party in power gave in immediately or fought it out. So yes, there were times where the political party with a monopoly on coercion did not represent the ideas & values of the majority to some extent (like in feudalism, as the minority upper class had more physical power). But as civilization kept evolving every single individual became more powerful to a point where any single individual can kill hundreds of people if he really wanted to (Timothy McVeigh), so conforming to equalizing everybody's power to 1 and polling it out (instead of fighting it out) is a natural adaption. So libertarians should shut up about their meritocracy and monarchy and should stop complaining about "muh tyranny of the majority"(there will always be a tyranny of the majority even without democracy) and "once there is a state it will keep on expanding" (it wont, peasants would always revolt against taxation in the past). Stop thinking you can trick a non libertarian public to live in a libertarian nation state. The way to liberty hasn't changed because of democracy, the way to liberty is still this: all libertarians from around the world politically migrate & cluster to one territory, and perhaps vote in a libertarian political party, and this time, we'll sustain it by not having open borders, liberty has to be enforced. This is also why the concept of "installing a western democracy in the middle east" is so retarded, only the people of the middle east should decide if they want a western democracy, if they would truly be ready for a western democracy, if the public would truly want it, they would overthrow any tyrant within a second.

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