Dylan Lawrence Moore Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 A take on dealing with sophists that I'm guessing you haven't heard before. What a sophists two primary weapons are, how they use them, and how to deal with them effectively.
barn Posted May 16, 2018 Posted May 16, 2018 To manipulation the diametrically opposing value-set is within honesty, self- integrity/assertiveness and curiosity. i.e. (a made-up example) A: I think you should do this, not for me but because I know it is good for you and I love you. B: That sounds good, it's just that I have doubts about it. Mainly it's because I'm not sure if it's universal for you too. Why didn't you apply it in your own life/allow people to act in this manner towards you? And I'm not blaming you or anything, it's just what you are saying I should do makes me uncomfortable. Can you provide objective proof? A: Oh, I understand... Um... Er... you know, with me it's different, so different that it doesn't apply. Trust me, let me explain better what you should do, again. B: Well, I don't think you are taking my ask. You don't have to but that means I should step over the doubts I have expressed. Sorry, I won't do that. I'm happy to discuss this topic when you respond to my previous questions. If you would like me to unpack my questions further, I can certainly do that too... A: I'm sorry, you are too stubborn for your own good. I tried to help you but I can't if you don't let me... B: I disagree but it is okay, we don't have to agree. Don't get me wrong, what you outlined at first sounds good, I just can't accept it without proofs and you not addressing my questions makes it at best unresolved, I'm the same doubtful still. A: Yeah, well... - parting - The best guidance I have ever got came for me in my life so far from a book called Real Time Relationships, colloquially referred to as (RTR). It's really more than a book, when you apply realisations you get while reading and take it to real life relationships, you'll see that they can be tested, evaluated truthfully. Very-very powerful stuff. You can download it free, courtesy of the author. If you think it has provided value, consider donating. I certainly do (but that's just me, you can decide it for yourselves). Have real-time relationships, always! Barnsley p.s. (I don't have manipulators in my life, sure I stumble into them occasionally. What's better and proof enough for me, is that they either give up/escalate(helping me avoiding them) or they give me a wiiide berth. Oh, and one more thing. I have learned this skill by examining my own convictions and sticking to principles such as truth above anyone/anything else for me. Well, that is if I had to further simplify what I had already simplified.)
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