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I disagree that all music is intellectual/rational especially in terms of the choice of lyrics. I don't know of any musical writers that have been able to achieve the art of combining rationality, emotions, and passion in the realm of music in the same way that Ayn Rand conceived of in her books and Stefan Molyneux has made into a science in his books and podcast. But I'll definitely be on the look out for the next brilliant artist who is able to accomplish such a feat. I did like the musical Spring Awakening, which maybe the closest I've heard.

Hans Zimmer's music is amazing. Time is a particular composition that I can't stop listening to, the slow increase in intensity and the dynamic use of instruments to create a truly moving and emotional piece. The music video below does a great job in showing the dynamic nature of the effects of our emotions. Truly amazing. I will check out the other musicians you listed as well.

If you truly care about your kids then accept that you chose to have children with an abusive man and take full and complete responsibility for being a single mother.

In my experience, it has been helpful to validate all of my feelings. Every emotion that you feel was at a time created to help protect you from the world. For me, the best thing to do was to try to relax and notice which feelings were occurring before acting on the feelings. Self-knowledge is helpful in deciphering the causes but not in changing the emotions, for that you need to act based upon the knowledge learned. This was really tough for me. Self-attack can help prevent direct attacks from an abuser and help a child feel more secure for the duration of the abuse when leaving is not an option. The survival adaptation to abuse, self-attack, can help the child conform to the desires of the abuser which usually greatly diminishes the external harm, providing temporary relief and protection. Self-attack only helps the abuser and hurts the child when the child can separate from the abuser without physical harm but chooses not to and continues to conform to the wishes of the abuser. Self-attacks usually occur around actions or feelings that the abuser wouldn’t want you to feel, like anger, agitation, frustration, and upset. A way I found to diminish the occurrence of self-attacks was to remove myself from all abusive environments and relax. Breathing exercises and meditation were really helpful.

Understandable. Do you know the best way to deal with paranoia and fear? And understanding whether that fear is rational or irrational? It is very hard for me to discern.

What particularly is making you feel disappointed and upset? I too have a similar feeling but more so of sadness and anger at the entire situation.

No one who's mind needs to be changed will believe you. This is a distraction. Warn people that civilian disarmament will cause a civil war. Sandy Hook is a fucking distraction. It only matters to people who already believe that gun rights are important. People who already know that governments are capable of doing this already agree that the 2nd amendment is important. MANY people will not be capable of changing their mind based upon facts let alone conjecture like this conspiracy even if it makes a little sense. Don't focus on this. Focus on gun rights and stopping the civil war. Stay on provable facts: The naivete of the nature of evil will destroy all that is good left in this country. Criminals can be elected. Governments are corruptible. The 2nd amendment is important. PS. I know this is cure not prevention. But I think keeping things peaceful is important for our movement. Argue based upon facts. Government and violence are bad!

Please re-read my statements again.

You are saying that your approach (more research is necessary before promoting a primary way to reduce violence) is correct, and our approach (current evidence is sufficient to start promoting a loving, nurturing childhood without verbal or physical abuse as the primary way to reduce violence in the world) is incorrect. So why are you prematurely promoting your strategy that more research is necessary when we feel our evidence is sufficient? We feel that our approach has sufficient evidence to start promoting it. We are always open to more evidence and more research especially if it contradicts our current view. We want to know that we are on the right course of action and not supporting incorrect theories that may lead to more pain and suffering. Thank you for helping us out by fully investing your time in researching this essential issue. Let us know what you find out.

STer, well one strategy that is clearly not the best is arguing with individuals who are trying to make the world a better place that their view is incorrect without providing evidence. Because if you are wrong, then you are doing a huge disservice to the world. You would be adding to the evil of the world. You would be fighting good people instead of bad people. We are trying to find the best strategy. So if you would kindly explain to us a better strategy then we can discuss this further. But what you are currently achieving is tying up our efforts; you are not "remaining agnostic." By arguing with us you have made your choice on which side's time you would like to tie up.

I come from a similar background as you. I was a supporter of Ron Paul and some other minarchists (and kind of still feel really happy listening to them). I am now an Athiest, an Austrian economist, and an anarcho-capitalist. I sympathize. It’s a hard slog through to the truth about violence and evil. The hardest thing to me is trying to figure out the best course of action. I've also had doubts about totally giving up on the idea of using the political system to affect change in the world because it seems so easy to just show people how evil war is and tell them to vote those politicians who support it out of office. But it’s actually harder than you think. It’s very helpful if you try it out by arguing with others around you. Also, you place a lot of power in other people's beliefs if they control whether you are free or happy. But most of the enslavement comes from the people around you not the government. There is one podcast I would recommend which is 753 & the first part of 772 about Ron Paul who I still have sympathies for but consistency has never been tried before in our movement so I say let’s give it a go. Evidence wise, libertarians have never been able to maintain a small government, and we have never been able to get rid of war and military through political action. Remember, the United States went from the smallest government to the largest. Our constitution, the minarchist's utopia, did not constrain our government. Even if we were able to reduce the size of government, it would just grow again maybe larger. Though political solutions are not possible, I do, however, believe the civilian disarmament debate has been very useful in educating people about self-defense and individualism. I think we can prepare ourselves for the eventual collapse of the government by becoming self-sufficient while continuing to point out the evils of state actions against its citizens. The next step is to pair the evil abstractions of the state with the evil that is closer to our control. Because people can't control the state, they can only control themselves and who they associate with in their daily lives. Noticing and acknowledging abuse whether physical or verbal by your friends becomes essential. Also promoting non-violent and loving parenting to those who you are close to helps reduce pain and suffering in the world visibly and directly. Lastly, self-knowledge is the most critical element of bringing goodness and happiness to the world and to yourself because your own past can really illuminate a lot of ideas and will help you communicate the emotions alongside the rational arguments so you can have a larger effect on reducing the hate and sadness caused by violence. Very amateur opinion: The labels help define how we arrive at anarchy. Anarcho-communism - the ends of anarchy justify the means (revolutions). Anarcho-capitalism - the means are the ends (non-violence).

Agreed not scientific or objective at all.

Clarify, what do you mean by everything? And how do you define conspiracy? I agree that many plans are thought out before being implemented by sometimes more than one person.

Alex didn't fall for it. Sympathies for the victims of the tragedy. Say this over and over again. Thank goodness!!!

The anger against evil is why I know Alex Jones is a supporter of freedom. He's had Stef on before. Watch here & I bet he could get on again.

"obvious on purpose" to conspiracy theorists who take any little thing and make a big deal out of it. Like Alex Jones. But on this one he needs to keep his fucking mouth closed. Excuse my french...

Just curious what the reference to "obvious on purpose" means. Who are "they"? As far as facts go, every fact that has been reported, contradicts most of the statements made by the survivors, which contradict each other, with a final story emerging from the media which seems to be an impressionistic agenda more than a report on facts. What is going to happen next year? Again. Think about this as if you were evil and wanted to kill everyone and control the world. Think about the power alex jones and the liberty movement has right now. Why would Piers Morgan humiliate himself on TV over and over again? Do not distribute this video. Tell your friends in FDR only about this duel false flag. No one else will understand. Reply to the youtube vidoes now. We need surgeons not philosophers pronto. Cure this now. No time for prevention at this moment.

It doesn't matter whether its actually fake or real. Some people will believe its fake. Some people will believe it is real. Don't joke around about this. Look at the youtube comments. If you want to stop a civil war. Don't use distribute this video wait. These people are trying to divide and conquer. We are winning the information war. Look at the youtube comments now. Sign on and reply to people who think its fake with my statement below: Do not use this information to argue against civilian disarmament proponents. They will call you conspiracy theorists, and they will use your beliefs against you. Again this is itself a false flag. They will use your argument that the events at Sandy Hook aren't real against you. Please if you care about Gun Rights. Stay on facts that can be proven. Please Please Please. These people are evil and dangerous. They made this obvious on purpose. Please wait stay on facts.

This is the false flag that can create the civil war. People who watch Youtube vs people who watch mainstream news. They will never ever air this on mainstream news. Remember some people won't change their minds and only respond to emotional arguments. They will demonize you with this video. Thank you for posting this here. Everyone on FDR needs to know this. Email Stef too. I am now.

David!!! Thank you so much for posting this here though. Call into Stefs show next Sunday. Call into Alex Jones show Monday. Tell him not to use this information. Please. I am taking off work to call in. I will try to be the first caller. These people are using a duel false flag.

Do not use this information to argue against civilian disarmament proponents. They will call you conspiracy theorists, and they will use your beliefs against you. Again this is itself a false flag. They will use your argument that the events at Sandy Hook aren't real against you. Please if you care about Gun Rights. Stay on facts that can be proven. Please Please Please. These people are evil and dangerous. They made this obvious on purpose. Please wait stay on facts. Do not distribute this video. Wait until next year. Please Please Please. Give these statements to everyone.

Oh, I forgot the youtube video,

I posted this on my Facebook page. Please comment and circulate if its a good synopsis of our philosophy and a good argument. AmidstheNoise asks (see comment for youtube video), why no one [in the government] has taken credit for the 49% decline in murder rates and 49% of violent crime rate in the United States? What happens if this trend continues over the next 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 years? What happens when women start being taught by their husbands how to protect themselves with a gun from violent criminals? What happens when civilian thieves, rapist, and murders no longer steal, rape, and murder because now everyone is carrying a concealed weapon? You think men who murder, rape, and steal are fearless and aren’t scared. Men who steal, rape, and murder are broken boys who were beaten or neglected instead of being loved and nurtured as children, their dreams ripped away or slowly fading through years of shame and guilt of being “bad”. What happens if crime rates approach near 0 over the next 100 years in this country? What happens when industrialization and technological improvements bring more and more countries out of poverty? What happens when the problem of the poor has been solved by capitalism? What happens when education is provided for free on the internet or very cheaply by virtual teachers and homeschooling? What happens to the justification for government? Why do you think socialist, authoritarians, fascists, and statists are praying for guns to be taken by the government? They have to hurry to take away the solution before the problem of crime has been solved. However, this time they won’t make it. And the liberty movement will not let them; we can promise you that.

Stef, do you think that the media achieved their goal to discredit the liberty movement?

jb_bak, I'm guessing you may already know why Stef isn't up there. Most people don't want a rational debate and don't want to watch the Larry Pratt interviews. They are lying to themselves about wanting a calm rational debate, or Stef would be on stage debating as he is the philosopher of our time, and people would want to watch the Larry Pratt interviews (explains xelent's idea that more people will watch Alex Jones than Larry Pratt). Alex Jones makes them uncomfortable because these people have repressed their anger as children. They have an emotional attachment to being helpless in order to forgive their parents. So they lash out how irrational he is because he is emotional and passionate about these life and death issues. It is amazing how much courage and vulnerability that takes. To be watched by millions of people knowing that you will be attacked by the media and painted as crazy, which could be why it isn't good for the liberty movement. But if people have emotional attachments, why not break them down? Wouldn't it help people to make them anxious and uncomfortable so they will change their view? Larry Pratt Interview with Piers Morgan on CNN 1/9/13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inuYGQJ5djI Crime Stats: (which you guys already know)