My personal favorite is "John :Do you allow a small child to touch a hot burner? No. They don't know any better. You tell them NO in a stern voice to send a message that it will hurt them if they do." Because pain is bad unless it comes from daddy.
Kevins statement, "The problem with labeling any and all spanking as abuse, is that it does make it personal for those who dissagree (like it or not, the label applies to those who practice the behavior thus labeled). It changes from "What are the pros and cons of corporal punishment and other discipline techniques" to "If you choose to spank your child at all, you are an abuser, thus subject to the law" (research social services and DCF complaints).", made me sick to my stomach.
We wouldn't want parents to be afraid of being "subject to the law" which, taken to it's logical conclusion, is corporal punishment, but its nessisary for our children to fear it? gross.