No, I don't mind, because I don't prefer divisive approaches at the best of times. I think you have to find equal footing with people to change their minds in the first place most of the time. So I actually think it's often a good thing. I am not against Christians or people with any faith or any people without faith, I can even find common cause with the left on foreign policy and civil liberties and I find if I have a starting point of talking about how government makes things worse for the poor and free markets make things better for the poor I can begin to shift their position to something closer to mine. However, I can't really get around Stef's original arguments about indoctrinating children though.