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Sorta two topics ish in one. Anyways. First. I have been dealing with this word democracy used a great deal lately, and over the last several months my understanding of the nature of it has really led me to be much more trepidatious. In a sense, I am not claiming that all people who use the word are by default insisting on tyranny, as that is simply not a nuanced enough observation. What it boils down to, is that most people who use the word democracy, and in fact de facto, the usage of it, imply that they want liberty, specifically with the implication that they will not be subject to rule by elite authoritarian aspects. Now this is of course where it gets tricky, because of course if you go to lefty outlets like salon and truthdig you are going to hear democracy thrown around with the underlying implication of 'social democracy'. OK, so I am not disputing that. But at the same time people who use the word, and who read those outlets, take it to mean freedom from being ruled by a tyrant. Like for instance in any of the puppet dictator states created and maintained by American foreign policy and British Policy post WWI, it is clear that they were intentionally undemocratic. It is clear that most of the interference with countries in South America were to set up dictatorships, and prevent real progress. That is practically Chomsky's favorite subject. On the other hand, Molyneux will often point out that they were primed and ready for Communism, because they were more primitive cultures. So they had Communistic dictatorships. But one way or another they were not democratic, free, or of the liberatory sense. I still think Chomsky covers that region the best. Which sorta segues into the next topic, which is really about how Corporate Fascism, is in fact Fascism, and is in fact purposefully to interfere with agricultural economics and local and regional sovereignty. This is the origin of the 'Banana Republic' pejorative. That is to say, the real aim of Capitalist and Communist intervention in the Asian, South American, and African governments, was to create market penetration for massive capital investments into massive corporate or state subsidized outfits. And the problems still exist today, with the profound neo-feudalistic aspects of land ownership in those countries. So, it will be a combination of two things, intense government interference and red tape, with immense outside corporate ownership of massive tracks of land. People will often say, well I do not want to be ruled by a corporate plutocracy, so give me democracy. Well, we clearly understand that is not the solution to the rule by a state corporate nexus. Democracy sucks. But because of the intense obfuscation and political shallowness by righties and lefties, it is almost impossible to convince a liberal that democracy isn't in their favor, whereas Permaculture most definitely is. And that is what it boils down to, Democracy is an obfuscation of its real meaning. [On a side note, I will once again iterate that Dan Carlin's 5 part series on Rome best explains to anyone why Republics and Democracies are evil]. At this point I have a shit list of words that derive no true meaning, because of obfuscation and propaganda for centuries. Capitalism Socialism Marxism Democracy Fair Liberty Now, for some pertinent news. A new amendment, amendment 1 in the State of Michigan for The Right to Farm Act is being pushed through. People claim that it is to protect farmers from outfits like PETA. Supporters of the bill even say that it is worthwhile because PETA spent money lobbying against it. This if of course a distraction. PETA is irrelevant and totally inconsequential in relation to the real issue. Right wing people will try to say that it is all purely because PETA is lobbying for government power to infringe on property rights of farmers. This is once again another distraction and propaganda tactic. If you look at it with a fine tooth comb, you'll realize that the Amendment is an attempt by State subsidized Fascistic Agricultural Conglomerates, (the same ones that are set up in South America), to limit the property rights and freedoms of normal farmers. It's just pure economic fascism. And this is what is coming down the pipe. That is why people holler democracy like headless chickens. They want the government to save them from the government giving fascistic privilege to an oligarchic industrial cartel that wants to increasingly limit more and more rights. When you agree to count three out of your five slaves for the purpose of taxation and representation, it is not hard to see that a state republic is evil. Kevin Carson will quickly point out that in a corporate state nexus, the more capital and property you have the more rights you have. Little need to wonder, why that either needs a state or leads to a state to protect so much hegemony, when its gotten by force. Republics and Democracies just look good on paper, but always boil down to just plain good ole plutocracy. Strongly, strongly, strongly reccommend listening to Jamin and Brett talk about Permaculture at schoolsucksproject http://schoolsucksproject.com/category/podcast/autonomy-through-agorism/ Wouldn't hurt to listen to the history of Progressivism and Renegade US History Series on there as well, since it goes into the history of Agriculture and Progressivism and The New Deal.
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Let me stress this point, people must be aware of how the bills being written will affect their liberties. I.e. secretive trade agreements, obamacare, etc. As for the other part of the argument. I am an entirely libertarian person, in that I take it to the conclusion of not just attacking government oppression, but class, race, gender, collective prejudices, religion. Or fully to the extent of 'spiritual' or 'behavioral' liberatory goals. There is a divide among libertarians, with some favoring natural hierarchy, and others wanting extreme liberalism in everything, markets included. The problem with natural hierarchy, is who gets to decide what is natural. Culture? Class? Race? Religion? The Government more so? A bill writer? A lobbyist? I am not someone who believes in a lack of natural elitism, just someone who doesn't believe it counts towards as much as people insist it does. And in any case, most all social and legal structures are an outgrowth of culture. A large part of libertarianism should be criticizing culture and class from a historical, philosophical, psychological, sociological, and often evolutionary biological stance. There is a long history of economics argued from culture, where culture is argued from morality and psuedo-science, frenology, and eugenics. Biology (like Robert Sapolsky's work) is a way to protect people with rational empiricism from backwards cultures that try to argue economics on natural hierarchy.
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Your honest criticisms please? http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents/thomas-jefferson/letters-of-thomas-jefferson/jefl246.php
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The annuaki and lizard people remains a popular trend. I knew a VERY smart person who seriously believed the lizard people. My opinion is that, its worth listening to, not because lizard people are real, but because people seem to be very keen on David Icke. And there isn't exactly proof against Atlantis, at least not as a civilization in general, albeit maybe not death rays. Randall Carlson's ideas are cool. I've listened to Mark Passio, who is another off the fringe sort of guy, and its honestly got some strong logical points. They say that after a while Icke cooled down and stopped talking about the lizard people. And it isn't lacking in its interest. I really like Star-gate and the Alien series and Acharya S's perspective. Still waiting for a Prometheus number two. I can't remember whether it was Michio Kaku, or Graham Hancock, or someone along those lines on a podcast was talking about how science fiction is the only school of thinking that still asks spiritually and philosophically relevant questions. Here's a link to even weirder stuff. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/archive/index.php/t-1630.html
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In some ways there are parts of the bible that do preach a natural order to things, and many of the verses are very laden with nature oriented description. The agricultural societies would have had a natural respect for nature, as our earlier version of America also did. And in some ways still does, given the size of our national parks and the amount of agencies we have dedicated to managing land. However, the fundamentalist components of these religions have sought out a purist version of the old testament semetic way of life that focuses very strongly on the literal tribal understanding of man's role as a chosen people. So I don't see a huge coincidence when I see pro-industrial interests strongly lobbying and buying votes from evangelicals. This is also partly because these people are dependent on blue-collar industry for jobs on a historical basis. And further ironically, many religious 'folks' are actually very keen on the populist movements of sustainable agriculture and protection of natural resources. There are still conflicts between industry and land owners, fracking, eminent domain, etc. I've been associating with the people and ideas of agricultural activism and land activism for a long time, and a good portion are of the evangelical faith. I believe this plays into their hatred of 'unnatural' or 'ungodly' approaches of the industry, i.e. the pharmaceuticals and confined feeding operations. For instance, Muslim and Jews only eat Halal and Kosher. Most important land conservation book I've ever read Aldo Leopold's Sand County Almanac is also a fairly strong religious undertone underneath it, which at times resembles the bible, John Muir, environmental religiousness, and a heavily Deist approach somewhat like Jefferson and Locke. I'd also add, that I have a background at a popular Forestry school, and I would garner most there were Protestant, being not totally conservative, certainly not far-right, but more traditionally economically conservative, though definitely in favor of some democratic concepts, after all it is a research center for government agencies. It is interesting, because Stefan has said that Protestantism and environmentalism come from the same vein.
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Yes, and we have squandered massive amounts of pristine prairie top soil that Europe long ago lost in the 1300-1600's from overpopulation, so the soil is so poorly managed it takes more and more inputs to get less and less... I for one, think hemp is a better source for just about everything. Hemp grows easier than corn without a doubt, it is a weed after all. So I am all for the hemp revolution. Though as far as alternative fuel sources go its only a part of the puzzle. I actually think microbiological growth tanks converted into hydrogen fuel cells with input from solar fuel cells might be the future, plus there is a lot of talk about algae growth.
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http://prn.fm/gary-null-show-070114/ THE GARY NULL SHOW – 07/01/14 Posted on: July 1st, 2014 by Archivist Categories: Gary Null Show 2 The heretical origins of the American Republic and its challenge to the ideology of a Christian-based nation Dr. Matthew Stewart is an American philosopher, who characterizes himself as a “philosopher of the people” – attempting to rescue the discipline of philosophic and rational inquiry from the glass city of the academies. Matthew graduated from Princeton University in political philosophy and later received his doctorate at Oxford University through Princeton’s Sach’s scholarship. After a brief career in consulting and multinational banking, he went on to publish a series of philosophical and historical books and thrillers. His most recent book – “Nature’s God: The Heretical Origins of the American Republic” — is perhaps the most thorough researched publication to date about the rational founding of the American Republic tracing its philosophical origins to the ideas of the ancient Greeks and Romans and the Enlightenment contrary to the belief that the US was founded upon Christian theology. His website is MWStewart.com
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http://duncantrussell.com/forum/discussion/13952/expanding-mind-consciousness-hacking-072014#Item_1 http://prn.fm/expanding-mind-consciousness-hacking-072014/ Spiritual technologies, DIY neuroscience, and the renaissance of engineered mindstates: a talk with Mikey Siegel, Bay Area entrepreneur and consciousness hacker impresario. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nG_chQK9iGc Pay attention to this guy's response to the podcast This is a very difficult podcast and response, because I am not sure how I fall on the argument. Do I think there is an inherent flaw in believing you can use technotricks to bypass the wisdom of a Taoist monk? I mean certainly. I think there are a lot of really overly ungrounded people running around in silicon valley right now. I have certainly listened to some talk to Rogan. I'd have to say that is the main reason I listen to Rogan, is that he always has people on who are willing to talk about the aspects of consciousness and the mind, but it is generally from a fighter's perspective, or from someone who's 'made it'. Or it is better thought that some things only make sense with mastery, which is why I have been yearning to read the Book of Five Rings, and Robert Green's books about power. And many of my conflicts with Western Science and Philosophy revolve around the concept of 'reductionism' and 'scientism', or the insistence of western thinkers arguing moral and 'spiritual' issues from an objectivist absolute point, or a relativist point in post-modern terms. And truly, I do hate most of the psychology movement in Western science, for applying butchery to the whole concept of brain functions, acting as though it was as simple as legos. (It's interesting to note that the artist Alex Grey, is actually associated with 'meta-modernism'.) But this is not an easy subject. I personally suffered an accident three years ago that took away a lot of my 'mastery' so to say that the brain is not a material thing is truly false. It is not an easy subject.
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Also, there is a lot of emphasize on these subjects in Bill McKibbens books. But especially, Deep Ecology The Wealth of Communities., which is about agriculture.
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http://www.shareable.net/blog/growing-the-open-food-revolution
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What this makes me consider are the coming implications of Ethereum, and p2p loan systems. I already know what its like to be a part of a food coop, as well, in terms of brick and mortar and not crypto-finance. This is also sort of in line with the ways in which small artist would go about promoting their work over p2p systems. And I suppose countless other implications.
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Muckraking journalism. Show them journalism about lobbyist, donor contribution, war, pharmaceuticals killing people, children especially, farmers being harassed by feds, drug busts by swat team and feds on marijuana, Israel/Palestine, Zuckerburg's selling people out to private security contractors and the fed, corrupt tsars, corrupt board directors, revolving door, corrupt higher education, corrupt deans, corrupt think tanks, corrupt research grant programs, corruption in licensure with state boards, corruption and statistical fraud in patents and peer-reviewed papers, corrupt court citations, corrupt financial interest with supreme court justices, listen to Max Keiser talk about corrupt bankers. Basically get people solid real world examples of authoritarianism, croynism, classism, and clear cases of the misuse of taxes, the counterfeiting of currency, the type of wielding and dealing of power where those who run it don't have to answer to it. This will make people primed and ready to solid philosophical explanations. Real example + philosophical theory = Oh holy shit let's get the hell out of this system.
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Ecology operates on what is known as succession, of which the gestalt is -there are phases of continuous growth and renewal and death of different tiers of symbiotic relationships within a given ecosystem which create a total cycle. This is predominantly how things like fire ecology work. Certain species wont grow without fires. Everything in nature is as interconnected as could possibly be, co-adapted, co-evolved. Different species function as niche's or archetypes that keep networks of symbiosis going. Ecosystems can handle species lost, but only if they have symbiosis to replace it with in comparable means. Habitat degradation on a whole almost always comes as a result of massive diversity loss that doesn't recover. For instance, when a lake was drained and the soil was 'disturbed' and hauled out nothing natural could begin to grow. There were specific soil ecosystems that once destroyed, were not readily replaced except over time. This is part of the concern for interference with succession. It is actually a fact that non-climax growth young forests, as opposed to old growth forests have a greater diversity because of less canopy coverage choking out sunlight. However, the issue is the nature of the soil, the hydrology of an ecosystem, and the larger species and affect on distance ecosystems are in fact all controlled by the fully matured old growth forest. These full natural cycles from prairie to old growth tropical, coniferous, or hardwood forest are what maintain the Earth. To be more abrasive. If we decided to kill everyone over the age of 40 as policy, how would the human race fair in the long run? Humans are not anthropomorphically dominant in the ecosystem. Its not a choice of free will, but rather an elaborate niche in symbiosis. Doesn't mean we have to go back to spear throwing and living in jungles, or that we cannot engage in industry and agriculture and certain kinds of husbandry and animal consumption, but simply that we need our agriculture and our diets and OUR habitat to reflect natural biological relationships and symbiosis more so. This is typically considered permaculture, forestry, sustainable agriculture, environmental management, and wildlife management. When we lose species diversity we die too. It's a Judeo-Abrahamic belief, and a fear of mortality in human cultures in general, that wards us away from understanding our biological nature which is actually empirical and more liberating than restrictive culture.
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'Know thine Enemy' -> Know and understand what the slave master has going on in his sick head. I take it as a clear realism, and existential necessity to know what they are doing so I can plan accordingly. I certainly have no desire to enable them or perpetuate them or vote on them. Definitely not what I got from the video. This moderating or compromising behavior of false anarchism or state apologist is in fact warned against in the video in how she describes 'ra ra' or 'conservatarians', as well as 'liberaltarians'. Rather the video warns that the amount of infighting among libertarians and lack of cohesiveness on universal issues that are of more importance impedes a consistency of principals, strategy, and action of goals. You definitely learn a lot about stopping abolition by studying the involvement of the government, the transportation of slaves, the whole business, to muckrake it, not the theory, but the actual crimes and especially motives. The documentation of crimes is utterly necessary for consistent application of principals in order to correctly make a case for people who do not understand anarchism and need real clear journalism over political crime to see and understand why anarchist principals consistently expose patterns of abuse. People cannot just learn in abstract theory, it drags them away from understanding how motives play out and why those motives lack principles and arise from consistent patterns of government corruption.
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http://c4ss.org/content/29179 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B0hJnYViuE0 I got more than a few chuckles out of the picture narration on this. Great video, great explanation. Take home message: Follow politicians, bills, acts, and what congress is doing so you have hard dirt on what it is that is impeding normal markets. I've always been a fan of lobbyist hating myself. Nothing funner than bitching about Vioxx, Farm Bill, and GMO's.
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The terror management theory suggests that people's behavior is dependent upon fear; thus, support for the theory can be seen by examining people's reactions to death and their fear of death. Research not only shows people's reactions to the fear of death, but to suffering as well. Death was welcomed in some cases, by patients and hospicevolunteers, if it meant an end to suffering.[11] The reasons behind people's decisions regarding their own health can be explored through a terror management health model, which has three implications. First, consciousness of death leads people to try to remove all thoughts of death. Secondly, unconscious death thoughts can result in actions taken upon self-esteem as opposed to bodily health. Thirdly, preoccupation with one's physical body can hinder decision-making abilities regarding healthful behavioral choices.[12] Evolutionary backdrop[edit]Terror Management theorists consider TMT to be compatible with the theory of evolution:[13] Specific fears of things that threaten a human's continued existence have an adaptive function and helped facilitate the survival of ancestors’ genes. However generalized existential anxiety resulting from the clash between a desire for life and awareness of the inevitability of death is neither adaptive nor selected for. TMT views existential anxiety as an unfortunate byproduct of these two highly adaptive human proclivities rather than as an adaptation that evolution selected for its advantages. Just like bipedalism presents problems together with benefits, this anxiety occurs with the existence of human higher mental faculties. Anxiety in response to the inevitability of death threatened to undermine adaptive functioning and therefore needed amelioration. TMT posits that humankind used the same intellectual capacities that gave rise to this problem to fashion cultural beliefs and values that provided protection against this potential anxiety. TMT considers these cultural beliefs and values adaptive—even the unpleasant and frightening ones – only in that they manage potential death anxiety in a way that promotes beliefs and behaviors that facilitated the functioning and survival of the collective. Originally, the emergence of morality evolved to facilitate co-existence within groups, which together with language, served more pragmatic functions. However, the struggle to deny the finality of death, co-opted and changed these primitive functions. Neanderthals might have begun burying their dead as a means of avoiding unpleasant odors, disease-infested parasites, or dangerous scavengers. However, during the Upper Paleolithic era, these pragmatic burial practices appear to have become superimposed with layers of ritual and supernatural beliefs, suggested by the elaborate decoration of bodies with thousands of beads or other markers and including food and other necessities for an afterlife within the burial chamber. Hunter-gatherers began using their emerging cognitive abilities to understand their world and facilitate solving practical problems to help meet basic needs for nutrition, mates, and other resources before their cognitive abilities had evolved to the point where explicit death awareness arose. But once this awareness materialized, the potential for terror that it created put pressure on emerging conceptions of reality so that any formation that was to be widely accepted by the masses needed to provide a means of managing this terror. Evolutionary history also indicates that evolutionarily "the costs of ignoring threats have outweighed the costs of ignoring opportunities for self-development."[14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory
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Some important questions. Why are the history of Buddhism and Hinduism and Eastern Philosophy on a whole, regarding pre 20th century Indian subcontinent cultures and south east Asia (and not China, which does have a violent history of civil war for millennial) have a consistently more spiritual, pacifistic, peaceful, innocent history compared to Judeo-Arbrahamic Religions and Indo-European linguistic historical cultural origins? And Papua New Guinea and parts of Africa where violence still persists in primitive ways? Remember Lloyd Demause's statements? Cultures don't evolve unless economics, parenting, and technology evolve. I believe culture, evolutionary biology, evolutionary psychology, social psychology, philosophy, and neuroscience are all intertwined on the material biological level. Cultures are a form of free will chosen selectively over time that shapes evolutionary behavior, so this will always be affected by geography, environment, etc Vitamin D probably plays a large part, since it affects 1/10th of the human genome. It is difficult to say why Germans invented the nuclear bomb, and Indians developed stable highly spiritual peaceful societies but never rational industrial means. There were many alchemists and pre-scientific process aspects to Indian society, however, and the Indians as a group now have more upper class professionals than any other country in the world. It should be noted that Middle Easterners weren't always totally given to undeveloped societies driven on Shariah Law. There were large parts of the Middle East affected by plague, cooling periods, and Genghis Khan during the end of the 13th century, and these effects endured towards the 14th century with Islam moving towards a conservative repressive Luddite paradigm. The Khan was heavily suggested as a cause for this, in that he utterly committed democide to entire Islamic civilizations. Some of the original basis for Western science, mathematics, and medicine actually comes from the alchemy of the 11th and 12th century golden periods of Islamic empires. Biological develop during gestation and childhood play a large part as well. Americans during the colonial period were taller, healthier, and smarter due to diet alone compared to mainland European peasants. And northern societies as a whole are wealthier, with a culturally ingrained puritanical work ethic. Access to more calories, more varied nutrition, and nutrition density play a huge part in development. Its also been strongly argued that agriculture actually reduced the quality of health of societies compared to nomadic groups based on fossil records. The free time and social and cultural changes in a large unnomadic society would have led to a development in intellectual rigor and organization however in order to drive a more complex large population. There is even a possibility that different herbal medicines and entheogenic substances played a role in developing entire cultures before the rise of alcohol bases agricultural societies. It seems strongly indicated that Hinduism and eastern metaphysics and philosophy had a strong root in entheogenic substances as well.
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It's all about how culture programs people's brains. Culture =/= Truth. The ideas behind Zionism and Shariah Law are both quite deadly, as you would expect when people aggrandize their objects and symbols to such absolute truth rooted in total historically constructed subjectivism.- 131 replies
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Nitrigin fixers, crop rotations, intercropping, and crop cover are key parts of land management and permaculture. --^ Raj Patel's books are detailed accounts of this subject, in terms of Farm Policy history. Vadanna Shiva talks about it in her books. Gary Null on prn.fm talks about it on almost every show. A very good well rated Environmental Soil Science textbook and Wildlife Ecology and Management text book wouldn't be a bad addition. There is a book by Kenneth Bockman about the four childhood allergies. It is essentially a book about Autism. Which is heavily intertwined with this subject, so there is some history and perspective in that book.
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schoolsucksproject.com Podcast radio program that talks about concerns of education and self education, should certainly help you in your decision making.
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Two wrongs do not make a right. This is why I am an athiest who hates chimp DNA style tribalism (which when I hear the word tribalism I don't think of cool Maori tattoos, but rather Pentecostal sermons that aren't over until Jezebel repents to save Israel, and the snakes go back in the bag). Every apparent evil of moral superiority, absolutism, ethnic, cultural, religious, classist, racial, hegemony can be seen in this conflict. It is an example or a microcosm of what is wrong with the human race. The wells and water treatment centers in that country should be filled with San Pedro brew, those people need some serious inner knowledge.- 131 replies
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