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This subject could have been started by me, I also believe that the only functional economy is the one based on natural resources with inhabitants using very simple technology and living in small villages. The arguments to destroy the natural system are always the same and they seem to be copied on the colonialist discourse based on ignorance and fear. Many indigenous tribes refuse modernity, that is in their view, nothing else than disguised slavery. We see here that modern man cannot see the natural world as it really is, he compares it with his modern man self centered education unfit for the analyze. He always bring back every argument to his narrow point of view. One of them the duration of life where length is used assuming it ends at death, so a life of suffering is better than no life at all. This way of calculating is like saying a big bag of candies is better than a fresh fruit, where quantity is preferred to quality, economy to ecology. Talking about suffering of wild animals is usually done in the colonized human perspective, by a fearful and weak creature. As indigenous men and animals who don’t fear death, there is no suffering where there is acceptance. Even if he will fight for his life, when he knows it is lost he lets go and the suffering has nothing to feed on. Wild life is connected with global life there is no difference between the predator and the prey. As the Indian warrior said before going to war against the white skin invaders: This is a good day to die. It’s a completely different way of understanding life. Lao Tze said in very short sentence the difference between cultural and fundamental knowledge as he stated intelligence is not erudition and erudition is not intelligence. In the same vein, oriental philosophy has another basic phrase to explain how performance has nothing to do with efficiency, it say’s as large the face as large the back. This is to say that our performance based modern societies are proportionally inefficient as the over development and over consumption consequences clearly shows.

Maybee good and bad is simply what qualifies joyfulness and suffering. The evil is a personification of what makes you suffer while the opposite is god (good) Then the apparition of God and Evil is the result of the evolution of abstraction in humanity where long term consequences related to certain actions would lead to a predictable destiny. Think of how you explain to a child not to do this or that and you’ll understand religion was for the mass of uneducated population. There where abuse and everybody knows about it. I think the philosophies using god and evil should not be seen as literally but in an abstract manner where what is represented as hell or paradise is an abstraction the ordinary person cannot see without strong images of what he can touch in his everyday life. From my point of view, hell and paradise is a recuperation of the oriental point of view of reincarnation and karma. Like others I think heredity is from Karma.

I've seen a few films on the subject the one about Ann Franck is questionning. I believe in reincarnation and I think it can be adressed in a scientific manner in a universe where nothing is created and nothing is lost. In that case actions are seen as expression of energy, cause versus effects that are the consequences of those. If the energy is directed to cause suffering it will eventually comme back to the source in a reversed manner.

Yes it is possible to predict our own decisions to be able to do it would imply to see our subconscious conditioning and the knowledge of it could ultimately be included in a software that could predict our choices in specific situations. In a more simple way, introspection used along with remembering of childhood conditions and influences can open our conscious to unconscieus patterns in our behavior

The debate should be on the ecological imprint of meat eating instead of the moral issue. In our world where ressources are reducing it seem's unsustainable to go on with certain way's.

Just today I witnessed this very reasonable guy becoming a perfect idiot when in presence of the girl he is secretly in love with. It is clearly, on a small scale, what happens to the mass when in the presence of their conditioned hopes where they seem to be fulfill able. As we see these days, the job opportunities and the pretensions it can offer advancement will occult any righteous values with a heavy tarp while wrong actions will be advocated as OK. This because ordinary people have fallen in the debt pattern and feel they can loose everything if they put their long time values ahead. Fear and anguish are very strong motors our governments use for mass control.

I agree that emotions are disturbing actions to the point they become inefficient. It is, I believe, the way our politicians and their financiers feed on the people of a nation as a wolf on a sheep herd.

I wouldn’t say the preference for symetry is for biological reasons, as we see in nature animals can show non symmetrical features such as long members to reach or eat their food. Same with humans that lived in a given environment adapt their morphology to the prevalent conditions. Big nose or narrow eyes, the protuberance on the back of amerindians , the canoe bump, is an example of this true biological adaptation. I think the exception is the symmetrical.

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Beauty standards are presently disconnected from the basic fundamentals on which they should be . This is a reflection of the era where all is exteriorized, where the superficial rules over the essential. This is why we are deceived by the fabricated modern beauty where a sick and infect individual looks like a healthy person.

When you think at a woman is Hotty does it have any sexual connotation ? Or maybe its her appearance ? Ether ways it seems your reducing her to some object of your desires and that can be sensed intuitively by the woman that will reject you . I would suggest a change in your attitude and it’s the object of my intervention, trying to expand the feminine aspect to a global planetary loving goddess that will respond accordingly to your true implication. This means to be respectful to the entire person, not only the outside shell. If you stay in the lower dimension of your selfish desires you will attract a lower feminine aspect, a kind of vampire seeking to feed on your energy. The feminine principle is all that nurtures and take care of life. There are no separations as man have traced to separate kinds and species, life is one. Rejoin the essence, from there you’ll embrace love.

You might have heard about the environmental origin of patriarchy ? Its in the desertic middle patriarchy was born and it is a reflection of the fact the feminin aspect is hiden in those enviroments , nature and humidity has to be veiled otherwise it dries and life cannot exist in an exulting manner. The cultures of the desert evolved around those conditions and the veiled and restricted woman is in relation with the scarcity of resources that cannot sustain big families. Those cultures cannot be transplanted in different environments where cultures evolved differently. You can see how in the tropical forest sexual promiscuity is liberal and matriarchy present compared to the restrictive patriarch islamic desert born culture.

Love can exist without sex and sex without love. You’r free to do what you want as long you accept the consequences otherwise it might enslave you. This is not morals its physics. Just this morning I had a talk with two wonan and it came to the point one of them told me that she was aware intuition (woman, right brain) and reason ( man, left brain) are usually in conflict because they dont speak the same language even if they try to say the same thing. Therefore to communicate with a woman a man has to use the heart language of emotions while a woman communicating with a man should use the down to earth more Cartesian type. This is a general rules a nd some exceptions exist where man are more feminine and woman more masculine. If we come back to the basics of this yin and yang philosophy, where you might remember yin is female and yang is male. .Yin is also the earth, humidity, cold, and many other characters. When you look at those characteristics you can see what c an please a woman, be some appreciated help for her. Usually the get balanced by what opposes what they are, humidity by dryness, cold by heat. Be cautious not to overdue. Seek balance. If you look at fast recognition for what your doing forget this science. The follower of those principles find their satisfaction in the action, not the profit it can bring. If ever there is retribution they enjoy it but they wont wait for it. Working in the essential is the retribution in the way it comforts your conscience. This is not giving what she wants but what she needs in the perspective some things she wants are superfluities and you should work with the essentials. Why work with the essentials ? Because they last while the superfluities are ephemeral. How do we fight back against Feminism? by surrendering ...

It seems abstract because its so down to earth that we, disconnected creatures, can no more understand simplicity. Be humble and respectful with women, treat them like you do for your own mother or the mother you wish you’d had. Nature and women are the same , they carry and nurture life. If you treat well nature you respect women. If you treat them well, they will reward you with love. Dont mix love and sex. Dont try to argue, speak with your heart.

When I say women are out powered it is by looking to wild nature and how humans have move around her limitations to submit her. Nature and women are the same. The stay at home dad is possible in an artificial world where mother can be without milking breast, where cows are thought to be as good milk providers than women. That belief is wrong, human milk cannot be replaced without negative consequences. In this context power is speed seen as exaggerated compared to human natural abilities. When I use technology to accelerate or amplify any of my natural senses or abilities I am exceeding the normal speed I should use and by doing so I provoke a disequilibrium. Nature and by extension relations with women are distorted when in the amplified mode. I’m conscious we are far from nature in the modern world and that I ‘m myself over speeding and over amplifying. I still think the source of the problem is the use of technology to supposedly ameliorate our lives. The fact is it made it worst than ever. In my case I’ve considerably reduced my speed. Its not all humans that adopted the illusion of power the technoscience offered them and those wont be as affected when the punzy pyramid of modern civilizations will fall to the ground. Hi Kevin You’r right, this apparent privileged man is an illusion that was concocted by merchants to become rich using the male pride and his need to showoff. Who, first, fell in the trap ? Man. Men became blinded of their abusing behavior because of the speed technology have attained in all domains. I use the comparison of the driver in a car going fast, his perception of the details along the road is partial because his attention is focused on the road not the surroundings. The same happened for his relation with nature and women. Increasing speed narrows perception. Male as female are, in techno developed countries, both in the same speedy mode that obliterates perception of their true nature. Relations are therefore conflicting. One example is high technology applied to communications look at with a non partisan regard. We can communicate fast with many all around the world, but we realize that the message is proportionally diluted to a point of nonsense. Its not because we can do something we will do it right. What I’m trying to say by resuming the problem with the yin( passivity) and yang ( mobility), is that the problem is one of excessive energy and even if man is yang in essence, it doesn’t mean he is the only one perpetuating the problem. As women started investing the male traditional domain by using the artificial power offered by technology (Transport, communication, work tools etc ) they became more yang adding to the unbalance. There is and will be a point of no return where all this will collapse to the opposite extreme . The over consumption of resources by the rich countries has significantly affected most of the earth ecosystems to a point they are collapsing without any hope of a fast recovery. The debts of our countries reflect the individual debt towards nature resources. The cosmetic solutions used presently to retard the effect of that collapse are losing their efficiency. This situation is related to the man woman conflict over equality as everything is interconnected. No durable solutions are possible in the extreme environment in which we are living in the rich and developed countries of the world. To reestablish the balance between man and woman we’ll have to reduce our speed to the natural capacity of nature to provide our basic needs. As times go by, less is left to return to middle land. Then and only there can the balance be even.

This feminist debate is as most of them deviated from the beginning. There are no doubts our planet is under a partriarcal domination, the acceleration of movement in any domains is clearly a male trait. The Chinese summarize this as yang equals movement and yin immobility. This particular debate is therefore truncated because it is in male perspective of that accelerated movement which in this case is the artificial manmade environment of money and work. We shall realize that the true nature of woman is the natural unmodified world and since she was forced out of it by a male overpassing the limits of equilibrium by his quest for exaggerated renown and power, she is out powered and in a servile condition. The answer to the question how we fight against feminism is answered by the comprehension of this yang amplification and needed reduction as a way to reestablish peace that is equilibrium. A fight can only bring more fights. One has to accept a loss for the cessation of war.

Saying this could be seen as non politically correct, because it seems to many that those who say it are in favor of some kind of control over the people. As we know liberty is a very strong value of our modern world and men want to be free. Or at least think they are The overpopulation problem is not one of birth control its one of available resources to produce more humans. This is where I think modern technology failed. It produced more food on one side without any thought about the long term side effects that unfolds presently. Consciousness is to see in the future the result of our present actions based on the experience of our past ones and those of our parents and ancestors. There is no use to reinvent the wheel. We can suspect that this wisdom of experience was forgotten when profit and renown blinded some of us.

This is a very ancient knowledge where the microcosmos, the individual, has to be in harmony so the macrocosmos, the society and environment, can also be harmonious. It implies there are more relations between the two aspects than we usually think there is. The disharmonious individual is therefore a pathogen for his midle. The parent child crisis is due to the disconnection of man and nature. The adult abusing the children is our reaction of disharmony resulting from our disconnection.

I’m retired, so I use all my working time to this cause. I’m talking of basic needs such as a natural territory where those wild species can live and find food.. The manmade animal reserves are not enough. Those survivor shows underlines the fact the modern man is ignorant of what is fundamental knowledge. By relying on others to look after what he should be able to do by himself, he becomes ignorant and dramatically dependant. (Slave by consent) The flu took its greatest toll in the cities, that artificial middle is unfit for the expression of a sane life. Saying that you are good as new after taking drugs to avoid looking at the source of the problem is diverting the problem in a garage lane. Soon or later it will come back stronger. We all know drug abuse is a big problem. I think that our exaggerated consummation of natural resources is the main cause of increasing poverty. This whole economy based on money is a mirage that many misinterpret as a measure of wealth. We’ll see in the coming years the collapse of this money economy and many will realize that the natural economy never disappeared and is still the most efficient and sustainable form of exchange between living beings. The illusion of abundance is artificially maintained by the increasing of the national debt in most of the developed countries. We shouldn’t look at our grandparents for comparing our standard of life without considering the state of their natural resources.

False flags everywhere.... The many false flags in the middle east brings some of us to look at this use of it as a symptom of our way of convincing others to buy our opinions or products. Does this leads to that ? My mother used to tell me : be careful my boy, if the wind turns while your grimacing, it might stay that way forever..

The problem is not only towards others but also for yourself, having to insure or look after the things you ow. As the wealth of american society increased, also did the restrictive laws and exigencies that translate in taxes and time consuming actions to protect all your belongings. We can see that to insure the upper class minority level of life the government has to impose to nature, low laboring classes and foreign countries an unsustainable low level of existence bearing terrorist and criminal actions. The main discussion in this topic is around the right to ow more than others which is not a right but an evidence. This happens at birth without, most of the time, any control over the genetics we inherit from our ancestors. Are we, from the birth, meant to be poor ? Its not being rich or poor, but what is done with the opportunities you have, being altruistic or egoistic. I think we should work at the source do everything there so all children would arrive healthy in a loving and sane middle. A sane environment , in my opinion, is a natural one where other living creatures are respected in their needs. We will then realize that wherever we are we can benefit from the pure flowing water. The biggest problem is the lack of opportunities in this artificial manmade world and the illusion is to think we can individually be wealthy while ignoring the increasing poverty of the mass, not only humans. Life should be seen as a global reality instead of an anthropomorphic scenery. We are at the edge of a change, where some will continue in the same direction while others will modify their orientation considerably. This change is to be more inclusive after being exclusive, to understand and apply the knowledge all is related and inter dependant.

Private property is a reflection, in my opinion, of the ownewrship of my own body and as the body property can be challenged by microbes and parasites also can be the house or the land. IN the animal kingdom land ownership is seen by the defense of the territory and I think it is the same for humans. I think the most fit, healthiest, shall as the animals, ow the land to sustain his family or tribe but not more, otherwise it becomes theft.

I can see your judging my point of view from a different position that doesn’t allow a good interpretation. There is no romance or sentiment in my view, only realism. I dont separate man from nature we as humans have done it by creating an artificial environment Im only reading the distance we’ve reached since our journey away from nature started. If you’re asking me questions about predators it could lead to very disturbing answers for you. There is some demagogy in the depiction of the world you say we’.ve built to ameliorate the natural world, saying its a more secure environment because we, supposedly, mostly conquered the affects of nature. We are far from the mostly conquered nature, as you say. It sounds like the merchant saying his product is the best by saying half truths, using emotional phrases to touch the buyer sensitivity. You should consider the scientific facts saying that the neolithic man was more healthy than the modern man and spent less time than him at work . I am far from mistrusting human kind’ I’m saying that many of us are no more humans, that we have mutated to a form unfit for our nature. Like a once heirloom plant seed that became, after many manipulations, an hybrid needing special treatments to grow and bear fruits. And before you write about Hitler and the perfect race that lead to the gazing of many, I’ll tell you I’m not in eugenics and won’t promote actions to reduce the human population. Mother earth will take care of the infection by herself. I’m trying, if you read some of the texts I’ve posted, to bring consistent philosophical principles to the argument I bring about the mutant man we became, with solutions to reconnect with our true self.

I dont argue for rights other than those nature gave the living creatures in the natural world.Those rights arent some as we understand them with a conditioned mind. They are the expression of efficiency when a living creature acts accordingly to the flow and unsustainability when going against. Like I said, man made morals are a degenerated form of what naturally exists, perfected by millions of year adpating to what is available with no use of forcing anything..

Its strange to see people get awake when the irreversible happens instead of listening to the symptoms when they knock on the door to warn us we are acting wrong. The same happens with our scientists, the whistle blowers, warning humankind it should decelerate to avoid catastrophic consequences. Why is it so ?