AudreyM

Wonderful to hear from you! Congrats on getting your masters! It would be great to meetup, I'll message you to set up a time and place.

Hi! I live in the Pittsburgh area. I'd love to meet some other fellow FDR listeners who live in the area. Let me know if you're out there!

Oh cool!

Welcome to the boards, Rooster! -Audrey from Upstate NY

Wow! Thank you for sharing!!!

Im wondering if anyone has any ideas or advice on what to do when you see someone hitting a child (or verbal abuse) in public? Or are there already threads like this? I just saw a woman hitting her child twice actually and I didnt do anything when I saw it which Im regretting even though I still dont know what would have been good to do. Scooping up the child and bringing her home with me would be bad, right? I did a fair amount of sobbing and shrieking when I was driving home just thinking about the little girl and being enraged at the mother. Now I just feel sickened at the apathy and cruelty of some humans and am wondering if anyone has any advice for me. Thanks

the wisdom of guinan

Woooow! So flippin cool!! Those people are crazy! Or are they brilliant... or both. Thank you so much for the resources! Perhaps if their is not a finite amount of courage within me I will add intense and incredible rock climbing to my to do list right along with conveying the brilliance of peaceful parenting to people and fostering my own self knowledge. All terrifying but potentially immensely rewarding

Thats awesome! My friend who got me into climbing is actually afraid of heights, I really admire her bravery. I dont think Ive been to any of those places, but maybe someday ill get to climb them. Im grateful to live in such a beatiful place as upstate new york, even with the winters

Im from Rochester. So far Ive only done indoor climbing, and yes it is definitely a workout! Im surprised at how sore my muscles are afterward, definitely in a good way though. Outdoor climbing is intriguing, but I cant believe some people do it in the winter, brrr! As far as I know Rochester only has one indoor rock climbing place, called rock ventures. Have you done any outdoor clilmbing?

Hi Al, Im from upstate new york as well. I had a similar journey of coming to accept the morality of anarchy after partaking in the 2008 presidential election. I also recently started rock climbing, its so much fun! Nice to meet you

Id love to join in the skype call but unfortunately I will be working. Maybe if theres a next time

When people keep sniffling even though they have access to a tissue, knuckle cracking, preferring the rolling stones to the beatles, any woman under the age of 50 calling me sweety, honey etc. Also bad parents.

I totally sympathize with your regret, dsayers. Just yesterday I was talking with some coworkers about the legalization of pot, chose to throw out a few remarks about self ownership and the non-aggression principle, caught myself wishing later on that I had gone the route of comparing alcohol to marijuana, and then felt guilty for thinking about handling the issue as anything but a moral one. Minor sleep deprivation may have been a contributing factor. It is tough though, I automatically assume people consider morality to be subjective (therefore pointless), and am tempted to contribute facts instead of philosophy to a conversation for the sake of productivity. Maybe if the goal is just to get the other person to agree with you on a particular issue, and not to introduce them to reason and virtue, then it makes sense to argue from effect. But I dont think I want my end goal to be that shallow. Hmm... Haha, do you think they'll be blue and gold?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doTpYKG8sU I admire Mr. Goss for bringing so many peoples attention to this and attempting to spark meaningful conversation. Some of the comments I read were a bit horrifying, but its at least refreshing to see such a magnitude of discourse about corporal punishment.

Theres a meetup happening in Rochester if anyones interested. http://www.meetup.com/Freedomain-Radio/Rochester-NY/1085432/

I have used the word creep before, both in jest and in seriousness, but haven't given it consideration till now. When I used it seriously it was in response to someones behavior that I saw as inappropriate, and calling them a creep was more of an attempt to push them away rather than put them down. However I regret using it and in the future will instead openly express my feelings of discomfort and request that the person no longer interact with me. Also I have heard this term be applied to women as well as men, though definitely not as frequently.

But why do people tend to take the easy way out? Whats the origin of this? I don't think that it is human nature. Would people still despise work if they received unconditional love and inspiration from their parents when they were little instead of neglect, abuse and edicts that they must "contribute to society"? If people are happy and have self esteem perhaps they would see the obstacles life presents as exciting challenges to be conquered instead of overwhelming burdens to be avoided. If people are not in possession of these pivotal things (happiness and self esteem via mom n' pop) than it makes sense that it would take violence and fear mongering like that of the Spartan government to result in a willingness to do chores around the house. Is it human nature or is it humanity reacting to awful parenting that causes these problems? Thank you for posting. I like yer name .

I've really enjoyed listening to the variety of music here, thanks to all those who've posted! Funkadelic - If You Don't Like The Effects, Don't Produce The Cause Music : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkA7ok5MySk&list=PLFD3B69A3B35E6725 Lyrics : http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/f/funkadelic/if_you_dont_like_the_effects_dont_produce_the_cause_lyrics.html A fun song with some standout philosophical leanings. I'd recommend the rest of the album, "America Eats It's Young", although I wouldn't classify it as libertarian. Crass - Mother Love Music : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SzjEJsIixo Lyrics : http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/crass/mother+love_20264908.html What Crass lacks in melody they make up for in spades with some seriously spectacular lyrics. A ton of their songs are about anarchy, but I think this one ties in really well with self knowledge and defooing in particular. I like punk, but Crass can sometimes be too abrasive for me, so occasionally I will just read their lyrics. Marvin Gaye - Where Are We Going? Music : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFa0NHrF1M4 Lyrics : http://www.metrolyrics.com/where-are-we-going-lyrics-marvin-gaye.html I LOVE THIS SONG! Its got the beautiful voice of the great Marvin, is a wonderful advocacy of critical thinking (or is it, hmm..), and is void of religion to boot, unlike a lot of his other songs. Also, I have always suspected that "Apeman" by The Kinks would make a wonderful theme song for those on the paleo diet, minus the vegetarian bit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-5I3gbmvlM

I think it would make sense to say that someone who experiences sonder is universally empathetic. However, I don't think it is necessary to sonder in order to feel empathy. Referencing the video, one could easily feel empathy for their surrounding cast without feeling empathy for passers by or the billions of people we know exist but will most likely never come into contact with. I think the ability to empathize is a fantastic skill to have, but I wouldn't want to be a persistent sonderer (lol, is that a word?), I imagine that would be pretty darn exhausting. Then again wouldn't it be possible to hold such an awareness without thinking constantly about the feelings and lives of other people? There's probably a healthy middle path. Interesting topic, thanks for posting!