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I am in London

Labour Unions are a product of the state, and they follow a Marxist economic model. Unions are socialist organizations that support violence, and take money (taxes = union dues) from people just like governments. They do the same thing with Union pension funds and Union taxes as a government do with income taxes etc...

Essentially the USSR is now Russia. Russia is still a huge state. BTW its communist doctrine to eliminate the top 20% (top academics, businesses and their owners, artists etc.) of a population in order to bring in communism. Reading Quigley is fine and dandy but its a waste is time. Look at the communist defectors and the statements they made to Western media after they got away. Essentially the country/states i.e. tax farms, are Marxist. They say whatever they want to the media (mainstream media gobbles it up) and then turn around and enact communist laws....constantly. Really great grand post Dylan...but you're wasting people's time. All the stuff you quoted above is old news. The question was essentially did USSR really disappear? The answer is no.

The comparison to the Nazi war trials after WW II doesn't really apply to the USSR. There was no war that brought down the USSR. Complete and total state domination brought down the USSR. China almost went the same way. The Chinese communist Government saved their bacon with rapid, sweeping economic reforms. Stefan described it better than I ever could; "Communism is Socialism with a gun, these are just 2 different ways of achieving the same goal. Communism forces socialism, Socialism is a long bureaucratic process perpetrated (in the west) by puppets/stage actors posing as supposed political leaders. These stage actors tell people their virtues and morality and pass laws imposing the complete opposite". In the end the goal is the same complete and total control of everything for less than .0001% of the population(s). Communism/socialism is a newer way for Kings and Queens to rein over their kingdoms. The goal hasn't changed in 1000's of years. Humanity has grown up in many ways with education and technology. The ones that want to rule everything need a more grown up way to implement their rein. Socialism (and its more violent implementation method Communism) are statist ideals compared to the monarchies that ruled Europe for a few millennia. Nothing has changed and its a notable mention; The European monarchs of Ancient Europe are still there, still stinking rich, still major property owners, major share holders of huge corporations and yes they still influence policy. The states have grown as has the world population. In turn statist rulers have grown in numbers. The ancient monarchs aren't the only rulers anymore but they're still rulers. Zeitgeist is bullshit statist propaganda even if its creators are unaware of this fact. Trying to generate support for utopia they lost sight and/or were completely unaware. What they're proposing is exactly what's destroying cultures and countries around the world...as they themselves have made a point of in every single propaganda movie they've released. Same shit different pile, same message different media outlet, selling same ideas with a different salesman.

Actually the socialist economic model crushed the USSR...they ran out of money!

Actually no the Soviet Union did not collapse. The Marxist economic model collapsed. They changed the name of the country to Russia after the long awaited economic failure. They took massive handouts from western countries and are in the same economic situation as China (on a much smaller scale). The communist economies are partly free (Russia China etc.). They can't survive any other way because of the total failure of centrally controlled economies. The political power never changed hands. The ideals never changed either. The economic ideals are all that changed. In a Nutshell: The communists loosened the economic freedoms within the 2 countries (China and Russia - Late 80's early 90's even China was on the brink) The west tightened up economic freedoms (hence where we are now) Eastern communist countries and western countries are now meeting somewhere in the middle This is planned and propagated by the cooperation of dozens of Western Socialist organizations; Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Affairs, Bilderberg Group etc (lets not forget how well funded and politically powerful these socialist organization are) Without western financial support to prop up China and Russia's economies in the early 90's they would've collapsed yes. However as we see now within our own countries bail outs are a socialist mechanism to save failed systems. They were to big to fail!

Stefan recently interviewed G. Edward Griffin (August 20th 2013). Great interview and in doing a little more digging (mind you I had come across G. Edward Griffin before in documentaries & lectures) I found he did some great work back in the 1980's. He is an author and lecturer, The most famous book he wrote and published in 1994 was "The Creature from Jekyll Island" about the Federal Reserve and how it was created. You must watch this interview G Edward Griffin did with an EX KGB defector in 1983, "Yuri Bezmenov": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4 There was a another lecture with Yuri in 1983 called "Subversion": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY This information was way a head of its time. Unfortunately they never had the internet 30 years ago. All of what is happening around us with the state controllers tightening their grip was outlined by Yuri 3 decades ago; Politics, Media, Economics, are all flowing a doctrine in state control methodology. Save a little more of your time here is a Wiki page on Yuri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov Kindest Regards, OX