Lou-W

Explain to them that they could actually get laid if they didn't self erase and subjugate themselves to manipulative, political power hungry dominatrices consciously transferring their unresolved personal issues on half of humanity.

The most efficient method to manipulate a person, a group even a society is to build your arguments on false premises that are presented in a "well of course we know _____ to be true so....". This is why you here the line "our democracy" as you know America is not a democracy its supposed to be a constitutional republic, but we aren't even that in practice, we are ruled over by mafia/lawyers skilled in every kind of manipulation and the population that they trained like circus animals in the govt school system. Democracy isn't even mob rule anymore, its the plastic steering wheel on the shopping cart for your child to have something to play with and when you say to your child "OK lets go there so turn the wheel this way, very good" that's the voting process, and the lollipop you gave your child for going along is the Pavlovian reward called welfare, funding, favorable laws/regulation, the lobbying system, and everything else the govt gives "poor little you, you poor little victim" (wink nod) Knowing and ignoring the damage to others because "you" benefited from govt favoritism, the most selfish and destructive force on the planet.

Holes in the fram make the structure chassis more riged and add stiffness. (and also more lighter because of drilled out matterial) Lighter yes, more rigid no. Its actually the opposite you get more flexibility with less material and more stiffness with more material. If they didn't want the frames to rot out then they would make little drain holes on the bottom at low points, they didn't. Pull up an 80's or 90's era SUV frame with only a few holes across the entire frame. Not enough holes to affect it either way, no rubber grommets to keep water out, no drain holes, think about it.

I'm 47 and I'm into antiques and I have worked a little in manufacturing, in fiber optic communication systems so I have some experience in making things for different purposes. In electronics their are different classes, one of these are things where if the device fails, people die like in aeronautics, medical, aerospace, weaponry etc... These things are tested and the manufacturers state how long they can be trusted and MUST be replaced. I remember hearing older people complaining how cheap things are made "now a days" and they were and are right. Its not worth making something that lasts 30 years when it will be obsolete in less than 3 years, It could be because of price range, I had an old paper shredder (70's) that I got at a flea market, it weighed about 60 lbs and was about the size of a small file cabinet, it looked like it could shred a small log and it was probably expensive like 100 bucks which was alot of money back then. Now I have a little wastepaper basket type under my comp desk and it will shred almost as much, take less space, quieter and I doubt it will last 5 or 6 years, but there will be better, cheaper and maybe a completely different way of document destruction like some high tech laser thing that turns paper into water vapor. If you ever worked on cars, you KNOW that some vehicles were made with holes in the frame so water would get trapped and rot out.