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Ark: Survival Evolved is another good one I've been playing (probably too much). It's still early access so there's still performance issues, but the dev team is extremely dedicated and pushes out updates at least 2-4 times per week
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Only because you don't see, or are refusing to see, that it's all the same argument. If you want to argue that the initiation of the use of force is not immoral go for it, if not then everything else we're talking about is pretty simple.
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yeah that's part of it, and there are things you can do to change your environment. Try and figure out the times or situations you get into where you feel the need arising then avoid those situations. Find something else to distract you, go for a walk or something (unless you're masturbating in public, then you might have other problems ). Limit yourself, set a goal to only do it once a week (or I guess once a day depending..) then get really excited when you meet those goals and improve. Don't get down on yourself when you don't meet those goals, this kind of goes back to what AccuTron was talking about guilt and relapse, realize it's likely going to happen and use it as incentive to do better next time. You could even go as far as putting website blocks up with a little reminder that you have a goal you're trying to stick to. As always therapy could help as well. I wouldn't focus on the potential negative effects as those have been shown again and again to just encourage the behavior (think surgeon general's warning on cigarettes). Just some initial thoughts off the top of my head.
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You should have no rulers so vote for me to be your ruler. The initiation of the use of force is immoral and I'll enforce it by initiating the use of force. If you have rulers I'll put you in jail. I'm going to enforce property rights by stealing your money (oh wait that one already happens.. ) Lack of peaceful parenting is where all of the "stupid" voters come from. If children were not raised with the belief that might makes right, knowing that the initiation of force is immoral, and knowing how to be rational and critical thinkers we wouldn't have these issues to begin with. I, along with many others on this board, also believe that there would also be no state at all as a natural progression. It all begins with peaceful parenting (i.e. the initiation of the use of force is immoral) and ends with anarchy.
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Honestly, and I have no research to back this up, but if you're really worried it will effect your sex life later on then you will stop. If it is not causing you issues in that area then you're probably ok. My assumption is a lot of the issues come from a lack of interest in their spouse either they're not as in love with their spouse as they're willing to or they have way to high of expectations for their love lives. Find someone you're enamored with in every way and I can't imagine you'd have any issues. For some insight into the addiction aspect I highly recommend "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts" by Dr. Gabor Mate. It really is a fantastic and truly insightful book whether you're personally dealing with addiction or not.
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Are you saying we should promote anarchy by running for office? Promote immorality of the initiation of the use force through a system entirely based on the initiation of the use of force? Might be a little contradiction there.....
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Should we be forced to vote for someone whose morals don't line up with our own (i.e. someone who believes the initiation of force is moral)? If someone we don't agree with should we be forced to participate (pay for) in the things that person proposes? if the answer is yes to either than that is what we live in now (democracy). If the answer is no to either than that is where we are hoping to get through peaceful parenting, among other things (anarchy). The fundamental issue is whether or not there is the initiation of the use of force. Once people understand the immorality of that then you can propose/try whatever system you'd like.
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Why does god need to be outside of time?
Koroviev replied to Magnetic Synthesizer's topic in Atheism and Religion
Are you arguing that because a left-winged propagandist said some left-wing propaganda religion is rational? Also, isn't that the guy who just canonized a mass murderer? I guess that does go along with the "the initiation of the use of force is moral" argument... -
Welcome! Glad to have you!
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I was looking into debate techniques today and one skill competitive debaters are required to use is a switch-side debate. The idea is that it's really easy to argue for something you know a lot about and are really passionate about, but not so much the opposite. Not really practical in the real world I realize but one of the things they mentioned that stuck with me was it helped people be more empathic since the debater had argued similar points in the past and it helped them to better see where the other person was coming from. Another benefit I could see is it would help you to find and/or close up holes in your argument.
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What person D is persuading you with could be different for each person. Specifically to your question I'd say that money gives you the ability to do more things in the future. Looking at it from a persuasion perspective it could be you're broke and can't afford the other things, you don't really like the other people, it could be a good career move for you if you show you're willing to stay late to help your boss out, maybe you want some time off later in the month so it's a good opportunity for you to use it as a favor. Could be lots of things.
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Why does god need to be outside of time?
Koroviev replied to Magnetic Synthesizer's topic in Atheism and Religion
False, Christianity is the opposite of reason at it's very core. This has already been shown again and again above. The question is why do feel that you need someone telling you what to do, especially someone threatening with guns bigger than the state's and who is the very embodyment of everything you know to be anti-rational and immoral. -
Why does god need to be outside of time?
Koroviev replied to Magnetic Synthesizer's topic in Atheism and Religion
I kind of lost interest i this conversation a while ago but I just had a thought that was relevant that I don't think had been covered yet. Couldn't you use the same "reasoning" that has been used in this conversation as to why god exists to argue that unicorns exist (the magical ones not just horses with horns on their heads)? Unicorns could exist outside of time/reality/our dimension too, and dragons, and fairies, and flying spaghetti monsters for that matter but how could we know. We have the same amount of "evidence," books and TV shows are written about them, people congregate to talk about them, so how can we say that these imaginary creatures who fit the same descriptions as a god would definitely do not exist but a god could exist? -
I came across this this morning and thought it was worth a share: FallaciesPoster16x24.pdf https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
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Bug consciousness and the Turing Test
Koroviev replied to Donnadogsoth's topic in Science & Technology
I think the other question is do we consider something that looks and acts like a bug to have "bug consciousness?" You can create a program that acts and reacts in certain ways based on certain circumstances, but at the end of the day it is still following a script that a person wrote. Along the same lines there is the rock, paper, scissors robot made in Tokyo that has a 100% win rate. It works by using a high speed camera to see what shape your hand will take then chooses the winning shape seemingly instantaneously. Does that make the robot really good at rock, paper, scissors or is it simply cheating? If I was allowed to choose based on my opponent's choice I'd be really good at rock, paper, scissors too http://www.k2.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/fusion/Janken/index-e.html -
Great point, and thanks for bringing it up. The first thing that comes to my mind is is that not what the dictionary is for? We can converse just fine using prior knowledge and context clues but once our "meaning" of a word becomes contradictory we need an objective (or at least generally accepted) third-party understanding. This doesn't mean the dictionary is law and in the context of the conversation there can be an understanding of a "new" meaning, but in order to effectively communicate that idea with others you either have to return to the commonly accepted (dictionary) meaning or redefine it up front. I'm not sure if that's way off base or even makes sense, definitely have to do more research into information theory myself.
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your stance is really confusing. You claim that reason is the only way to make the world a better place but are insistent that beating your kids is the only way to get them to listen to reason. How do you not see the obvious contradiction??? If you'd taught your kids NOT to escalate to violence, maybe put their needs before your own, maybe taught them to use reason as opposed to violence they would not resort to violence and you would not feel as if you had to hit people half your size just to get them to listen to you!!!!!!!!! Your voters don't listen to reason would you bend them over your knee to get them to listen to reason? NO because that's ridiculous, but I guess it makes sense the voters can vote your children are just kids. You don't have "alpha" kids you just have taught your kids that when something doesn't go their way (i.e. you don't want them to eat in front of the TV because they might get a little milk on the floor which would you take 5 seconds to clean up) instead of finding a win win situation you always revert to violence. The research simply does not support your claims. Violence harms children and we cannot have rational thinkers until people stop teaching their children that violence solves controversy. You did not just end up with alpha children you created them, be accountable for you own children before you try to start preaching accountability for everyone else. I'm sorry to get so angry but until people realize this is truly evil it will never change. Don't take my word for it do some research. Fortunately it's not far away: http://www.nospank.net/ http://stopspanking.org/ http://www.neverhitachild.org/ http://drgabormate.com/book/in-the-realm-of-hungry-ghosts/ http://psychohistory.com/ https://board.freedomainradio.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=524
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Does it not worry you that your son might be as terrified of you as I'm sure you were of your father? I know personally growing up even though my parents were against spanking or anything like that there were lots of times where I was certain my dad was going to literally kill me. The only people in the entire world who are supposed to care for you and nurture you, you are deathly afraid of. It was awful. Isn't that simply ingraining into his psyche that might makes right, that you can do whatever you want as long as you don't wake the sleeping dragon who will pin you against the wall and scream into your face? Would it not be better to plan ahead and work in conjunction with your child to make sure both of your needs are met? As opposed to waiting until he does something that you don't like then imposing your will on him through force? Like you I "turned out all right," but I'm 1/4 and I can tell you for certain the other 3 did not. Even if that was a valid argument is "all right" really the kind of person you want to raise. Now keep in mind that there is a huge difference between peaceful parenting and what i'd assume your friends are trying which absolutely leads to hellions because they have no concept of others' needs since their parents give them no boundaries whatsoever. Parenting is a lot of work and yes if you don't put the time and effort into it it does get to the point where you feel as though you've run out of options, but that is all the more reason to put the time and effort in before hand. Show me one parent who has put in the time and effort into peaceful parenting and ended up with a hell raiser and I'll change my opinion, but it's just not possible. People only speak Chinese if they are taught Chinese. People only act violently if they are taught violence. I truly am sorry but isn't it time we did everything we possibly can to stop the cycle of violence? Anyone who hasn't read it I cannot recommend "The Origins of War in Child Abuse" enough
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Are you saying Apple can only run their business because the government has an agreement with another government allowing companies to trade with each other, because governments give permission to gather resources, and governments (sometimes) protect them (and me) from other governments attacking us? What if we just removed the governments?
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Therein lies the beauty of Anarchy. As long as your system is moral you are free to propose whatever system you want and then it's up to the market to decide which works best. It is only because of the state that we believe we need the state. If you are claiming "politicians" full accountability for their actions and a system that is not able to force people to pay for things then we are proposing the same thing. How can you get big projects done in an anarchic society? Well, how does Apple sell millions of cell phones per year? No one is forcing anyone to pay for them. Apple makes a product that people want and people pay for it. If people want a road, if people want a dam, if people want protection, then they will pay for it. If taxes don't exist then they have more money to pay for the things they want and the things they need. The only thing the government does is steal money from some people and give it to other people. In a sense they are a middle man who removes all freedom of choice from the people they "work with." The people being stolen from have no choice in who that money goes to and the people who receive the money have no incentive to give the best value or even to meet the needs of the people. All I'm proposing is removing the immoral middle man. are you saying some children are like dogs who need to be beaten to obey you?
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Doing things my own way does not mean on my own. I'd obviously still hire other people to help and since I do not have to get a majority vote to get the projects I want to get done I am not limited by the factors that limit government projects. Why is it that you think without some government/god/overlord telling people what to do everything will descend into violence and gang warfare? Even if it did would that not open up a HUGE market niche for protection services (obviously with these protection services I'd want reassurance that they would not try to gain power over me and would be extremely skeptical until I could know for sure)? Especially if we focus on good/peaceful parenting, why do you think people never raised around violence would resort to violence (and the popular conception of anarchy) simply because the threat of the state is gone? Not to mention in an anarchist society (true anarchist not popular anarchist) people would be held even more accountable for their actions because the few "evil" people would not have the guns of the state to go hide behind.
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I definitely agree with your intentions, however it's clear to me that this cannot be achieved through government. If there was a "democracy" where all of the citizens are not forced at the end of a gun to pay into, that I am free to choose not to participate in, and that allows me to be free to come up with better ways of doing the things that "government" is attempting to do, and held those in power accountable for their actions. Well first I'd argue that that's not a "government", but second I'd be all for it. That is a free market, that is anarchy.
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Why does popular culture celebrate violence against men?
Koroviev replied to laowai's topic in Current Events
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Do what's best for you. If you're in a good place stay, if not, or you think you could do better elsewhere then leave. Either way be confident in your decision and don't look back. Also, don't be concerned about being labeled as one or the other, if you're bringing something good to the table and they turn you down that's their loss.
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I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Are you saying there are no "enlightened" decisions in a free market? Without government to tell us what to buy people revert to cavemen? As soon as government is gone everyone reverts to lower than the third-world? Have you ever heard of ebay? Etsy? When freedom is allowed things trend toward more innovative not less innovative. Also, even if everything you are claiming had any semblance of reality I'd take freedom any day over choosing between slave owners. Finally aren't you kind of saying that if people don't have someone telling them what to do and how to behave they'll automatically revert to cheating and violence? I won't, and am not, will you? That seems like a very religious train of thought. Give people some credit, we're smarter than a lot of people think.
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