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Wow! You reminded me of a similar experience I had in the past that had been erased from my consciousness: One day I met this crazy woman who claimed to be a witch in a bookstore and she was with her boyfriend. She insisted in getting my phone number and invited me to have a drink. Man... I have a hard time saying no to people and, before listening to Mr. Molyneux I also was not able to hold grudges and did not have standards for my relationships, so I went out with that woman. It was interesting to hear to all her crazy stuff, but she was complete garbage: she was a single mother of a 5 year old that she never talked about and she was always working or out, so she evidently did not give a damn about him. I think that the second or maybe third time that I saw her (I had no interest at all in her, she was always the one who invited me and stuff) she started taking the initiative and man, it was horrible, because at that time I had a really hard time saying "no" to people. She started saying I was connected to her from a past life and she needed me in order to realize her true power. She started trying to hug me and kiss me every time that there were no people around, put her hand in "inappropriate places" and just trying to arouse me saying how much of a slut she was, which actually make her look even more repulsive in my eyes. She mentioned she had a sex toy named "Alejandro" which she would use to pretend to be a man with other women in bed and stuff like that (you know, many, if not most men have this fetish of a three some or just watching two women engaging in homosexual acts). This thing went on for months, with me showing no interest what-so-ever, never starting a conversation, never asking her out, never starting a hug, kiss or whatever. Until one day she asked to be my girlfriend and that was too much for me and I told her to fade away. Not long after I had a similar experience, not with a woman claiming to be a witch, but just a very dumb and uninteresting woman that after months I finally was able to give a door slam on her as well. When I truly was a misogynist (now I am not), they came as if they were attracted to a magnet. Strangely, now that I am not like this anymore, I have trouble meeting them. If I can recall correctly, Stefan Molyneux said in one or more of his videos that if someone crazy call you crazy, either you are really crazy, or you are perfectly reasonable. Which makes total sense for me, as a crazy person cannot understand a virtuous/reasonable way of behaving, otherwise they would not be crazy. Again, most people who are labelled as crazy or mentally ill, are actually not crazy or mentally ill.
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I think they would probably look unattractive to regular people, because they would look fake and artificial by being so perfect. Being imperfect is part of what makes us human. That reminds me of the Making of Silent Hill 2, where the leader of the project said that he on purpose made the characters imperfect and got non professional dubbers and motion capture people in order for it to be more realistic and for us to be more able to relate to the characters. The guy (named Guy by the way) who dubbed the main character was a business owner for example. There is also a phenomena which I cannot remember the name (I am terrible at remembering spoken word), whereby when you make a robot with some human features, it looks "cute" and "interesting" up until a certain extent. If you put on a graph whereby going to the right the robot looks more human, it reaches a point where people find it repulsive and scary. If you continue down this trend, however, and go past this repulsive and scary part, people start "liking" the robot again. In a different tone, when we look at seriously disfigured people and/amputees, most of us get scared, even if we know the person does not present us any danger whatsoever. Reason being that it goes against of what we are used to think of as humans. We usually imagine that humans have two legs, two arms and so on and so forth.
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I have the inverse problem, not being able to remember what I heard well. There are no one size fits all approaches to that. Some people are visual learners, others hands-on learners and others audio learners. What I usually do while reading is that I highlight important parts, I write comments in the book trying to relate it to current events or personal experience. Also, if I disagree with a passage in a book I write down near it the reasons why I disagree with it... And, after I finish it, unless the book is so, so bad that I burn it (only did it twice), I write a book review of it. Depending on how relevant I think the book is, the review turns more into an essay, which can be as long as 40 pages long -- even then I do not remember 100 percent of it, but about 80 percent. So far I wrote 107 book reviews, started doing the reviews in 2011. The secret is also to read other books about the same subject, from different angles, different perspectives. You keep reinforcing your brain that this information is important. Audio books, lectures, speeches, podcasts... They are interesting, they are a good way of killing time, also good to have in the background while doing dishes, cleaning the house or whatever, but no matter how much I pay attention to them, I can only remember tiny bits of it. I have been for example to two NPI Conferences. Man... If you ask me the next day I will probably only be able to remember the very general topics that were spoken of.
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public education and how it destroys the urge to learn
Rventurelli replied to ChinKing's topic in Education
It is also important for kids to have a peer group. One that is healthy, of course. School provides ready made peer groups, which can be beneficial or harmful depending on the school district and other factors. Lacking a peer group while growing up can lead to serious issues as adults, as being unable to bond well with others or working in groups. Children of military personal, FBI agents and others that have to move a lot and therefore are always losing or never form a peer group show all sorts of psychological issues[1]. That is just anecdotal and I have no scientific backing for it, however, I noticed this trend that the people who were home-schooled until high school (I admit I only know two families, six people home-schooled in total), have this tendency of having really poor grammar. I wonder why that would be. I mean, I learned English by myself, playing video-games, and still I correct grammar errors by them in text messages and others all the time. It is mostly words written incorrectly but the sentence structure is correct. They also seem to be very slow in reading, to the point they always prefer dubbed movies because they can barely read the subtitles in time. They can effectively communicate in the spoken word without issues, the only problem I notice is writting many words incorrectly. (Perhaps they are dislexic?) [1] The Nurture Assumption - Judith Harris -
It was not about what she wrote. It was about the podcast. The audio part. I would guesstimate that around 30 percent of the audio she was going off on big tangents. Have you heard it? The written part did not have this issue.
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public education and how it destroys the urge to learn
Rventurelli replied to ChinKing's topic in Education
I think that everything has to do with the way that the topics are presented and by how diluted they are. For example, they present those disciplines as complete trivia and make no effort to make it interesting as they mostly cannot be fired. I went to a private and expensive Catholic school. The teachers were mostly Marxist and extremely anti-catholic. They did, however, make their best to show things in an engaging way: historical movies, images, maps, laboratories where you actively tested stuff... There are subjects that no matter how much you try to teach me, I will not want to learn because it seems so useless and uninteresting, or so I thought. Even in more theoretical math when I went to college I had a very enthusiastic professor that would go off on tangents and make jokes while teaching, approaching things in a more philosophic way -- I have never before been so good in math. In the Catholic school they co-opted me into Marxism-Leninism for a while, but man, the geography teacher made us give our opinions, analyse arguments, encourage us to read books about the subjects, always had maps, images and was very passionate about it. The history one would always make references to Age of Empires, Call of Duty, show us historical movies, bring metal bands with songs that the lyrics were about the historical subject we were studying... Man, the secret is to make things funny and make a lot of popular culture references. The teachers that did not do that usually got fired within a year in that school. Things were so engaging that way and interesting that I remember crying when my philosophy teacher, who was Argentinian, was leaving the school to go back to Argentina because classes with him was like being around Plato's fictional character Socrates or in a call in show with Mr. Molyneux. Also had the commies that were the history and geography teachers coming to my birthday because they enjoyed so much talking to me after classes about their subjects. Later, in another private school, the history teacher was actually very right-wing and owned many guns, some of the historical ones that were used in the wars he was teaching about and he showed me his collection, explained how it worked, how it changed war -- it made history become alive for me. I was fortunate enough in some respects, to go to a private school. Bullying was extremely bad and vicious, but man, having a teacher that is passionate enough about what they are teaching that they can engage in your curiosity, in a system that it is okay for them to fail their students in mass if needed and easy for them to be fired is the best thing. -
In my opinion you have to read! Read a lot of non-fiction and the most subjects the better! Usually the gateway is history, because you can picture things, you can what a historical movie, play a historical video-game and in a sense "relieve history". Start with topics that really interest you and expand like a knowledge tree. For example, if you are interested in philosophy, it is extremely important to fully comprehend it to read about history, economics, biology, religion, politics... Those are all connected and the biggest your amplitude of knowledge, the deeper as a person and intellectual you are. If you focus on only two or three disciplines you are going to be the stereotypical American that only knows about two or three different topics a great deal and is totally ignorant and not curious about anything else. I have been living in America for over two years and a half and yes, it is much, much better than where I come from, but this lack of curiosity, extreme pragmatism and specialization is by far the most annoying characteristic of the country, as you usually will have only one shared interest with the person and therefore can only talk about one topic, because if you switch to another one they know nothing about it and will either stop the conversation, come back to the original topic or just look at you saying "yes", "interesting". As an example, I am kind of a gun nut and you have no idea how frustrating it is to see people with no amplitude of knowledge in their own field: I go to a gun shop and pick up a M1 Garand, a Mauser 1898 or Sturmgewehr 44 and the guy behind the counter knows everything about the mechanisms and so on and so forth. If I start talking to him about how those changed the nature of war, military tactics, engagement philosophy and whatever, they look at me as if I am a ghost and remain silent or say that they know nothing about it. Because of this damn specialization thing of focusing on two or three topics and caring about nothing else (for example guns, video-games and football). Or the continuity of art! Someone is a movie fan and after a while you switch the topic to music and they know nothing about it or vice-versa. Argh!!!
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You and I are opposites in this regard -- when I get nervous or stressed out I cannot eat or I feel like I am going to vomit. When I had my separation I lost 60 pounds, was looking like a walking dead. Now I recovered, but am still close to being underweight. Do you live in Vancouver proper? I have a cousin that lives there. If you have a car, I would suggest perhaps moving to a nearby suburb and you will probably be saving hugely in rent/mortgage. You can do things to try to hide features you dislike or to highlight ones that you do like about yourself. I started losing my hair with 17 and now at 23 I have a big hole in the top of my head. What I usually do is to keep the hair I do have short so it does not stand out too much, keep a somewhat long sideburns and always wear hats. Not hipster hats, good ones, like Fedoras, imported stuff from Australia and so on and so forth. Also, I always wear button down shirts and mostly non-jeans pants. Man, you have no idea how many times people (usually 40+ women) stop me daily to say they like my hat and that it looks very manly. It quickly becomes your signature mark and makes you feel more confident about yourself. Try to look at religion with a cynical perspective instead of a literal one, my friend. Imagine trying to explain how the world worked, why being moral is preferable to people over two thousand years ago. Kind of impossible to do so rationally for the great masses of the populous, isn't it? Come on! Many rabbis are atheists themselves! My ex-wife was a self-hating Jew and her mother belonged to an Orthodox Synagogue and the rabbi said he did not believe in God!!! See the bible or whatever religious book as a book of fairy tales designed to keep lower intelligent people moral by inspiration and/or fear. You do not tell that to your friends and lovers, but that is their tool to aid them in a moral life so let them be. Will give you a practical example of how religion can help people: we all have sometimes nasty thoughts. For example, you are driving and there is horrible traffic, you think or even say "how I wish I could have a monster truck and ran over all those people". Paranoid people cannot simply understand that this is nothing more than a stress relieving thought; they start thinking "oh my God, I am a horrible person, I am thinking about running over people." This person goes to church and tells the priest he is having murderous thoughts. The priest tells him to pray 20 Holy Marries and forget about it. The priest might not know that, but what he is doing is correct, as Nietzsche said, nothing is truly erased that is not substituted. The paranoid will replace those thoughts with the prayers whenever he has nasty but harmless thoughts. I know that you do not look for casual sex. That is not the purpose of this forum. What I am telling you is that it might aid you in feeling better with yourself and more secure if you have one or two casual encounters. It will at least be better than the way I started and which left me less instead of more secure. Where I come from, it is a tradition for boys reaching 14 to have their fathers, uncles or older cousins to pay him a prostitute, so the "boy becomes a man". That might be okay and enjoyable for the rabble, for more moral boys that want bonding, "K"s instead of "r"s, this is absurd, meaningless and even boring. If you get to have the casual sex-dating one or two times by your own merit, without paying, you get the sense of "I did that in my own merit", so it is a little more than totally meaningless, just do not allow yourself to fall in this dark hole.
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What if your aggressive wife has a .357 magnum? While it does not hurt when they slap you, throw things at you (most of the times) or try to strangle you, last time I checked, men are not bullet proof. Things were escalating pretty quickly on her side when I left my ex-wife, but if I had stayed enough, she might have ended up shooting me, as she said she wanted to kill me many times, often while attacking me.
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I can only think of one woman that I was dating or in a relationship that called me crazy -- and she was incredibly crazy. Insane asylum type of crazy.
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Because if there is no one interested I will not waste my time. Since you asked, tarot itself contain many symbols that appeal to our subconscious and help us remember about situations in our past or that are happening to us right now. The cards have been used for hundreds of years, so the art in it and the use of symbolism have been improved. No, I do not believe it has any mystical power. What I do believe is that our unconscious mind can be incredibly powerful when you think about how much more things our mind does without us thinking about it, like breathing, circulating blood, constantly renewing our cells and so on and so forth. As far as seeing the future or things like that, what I believe happens is that if you see the cards before you shuffle, you know the meaning of the cards and you pay enough attention to what you are doing, your mind and not spirits or anything else, arrange the cards in a way that is useful to you. No, I do not think they predict the future, my belief is that your unconscious mind is trying to point you directions of what it believes it might happen and warn you of potential dangers due to what it perceives and we might not consciously know or remember. In a sense, I believe it is very similar to dreaming -- those images that go through your head must have a meaning, otherwise evolution would have probably got rid of it.
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Certainly looking forward to be able to purchase it in physical format. I live in a small town in Pennsylvania, so no chance I can see this in the silver screen.
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The strangest part is that she looks so much like a preacher doing all this gestures and everything.
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Step mother boundaries and honesty with children
Rventurelli replied to FelixandFenna's topic in Peaceful Parenting
In my humble opinion you did the correct thing in letting the boy reach his own conclusion (Santa is not real) and then explain to him what the correct meaning of Christmas is, so he does not resent the date as just non-sense. You could have even go a step further and say that Santa is a figure that represents the "Christmas spirit", as theoretically he would give presents to well-behaved kids, therefore encouraging kindness and good behaviour. You could do that while at the same time using an indirect language without absolutes like "I believe Santa might just be a figure", that way you let him with food for thought instead of "ruining" the kids imagination. You should not have apologized! Especially for something you did not do wrong. This puts you in the defensive and is a sign of weakness, which instinctively attracts aggressiveness, as it is the best time to attack a prey. Be a "rat", whenever backed into a corner, you stand up and attack! Just as an example of personal experience: it was my former mother-in-law birthday, she is overall a good woman and I have nothing but respect for her, she is, however, a gossiper type. She made a very mild criticism of the mother of a friend of two of her children (she had my ex-wife the oldest, a son and a younger daughter, all of them over 25 at the time). They yelled at her, at her birthday, with the family there in a restaurant! She apologized and apologized and apologized. The more she did it, the more vicious, loud and irrational both of them reacted, and those were her peaceful offspring, not my ex-wife that was extremely aggressive. That was embarrassing and I could not take it. I had an ACE score of 7 growing up and it annoys me immensely when I see people taking for granted having caring, responsible and virtuous loving parents and treating them like crap -- I texted her saying "Stop apologizing or they will keep escalating, defend yourself and they will stop!!!" all caps and poked her saying she got a text message. She looked at it and stopped apologizing. In a matter of seconds they stopped acting viciously. Instead of trying to be friendly with the ex of your man, ignore her as much as possible. She demonstrated that she is not a logical person and that she is the type that guilt trips people. If that was not enough, she sees you as an imminent threat of "stealing" her son. Nothing productive can come of this relationship -- door slam is the best solution. Only communicate with her via E-mail or text if absolutely necessary. The way she behaved about your miscarriage is absolutely reprehensible and evil. Which makes me wonder... What did your fiancee saw in her to begin with? Have you ever had this conversation with him? It is my understanding that this is an essential conversation to have. -
Spanking As A Method For Teaching Responsibility
Rventurelli replied to IsaacGage860's topic in Peaceful Parenting
Actually, for most of the world's history, even in Western society, people saw children as a consequence of life more than anything else, and after the baby became a toddler did not care much for them, leaving bigger siblings to take care of them. The popular theory as recently as the first half of the XX Century was that giving too much attention and demonstrating too much love to your children would harm them, making the transition to adulthood more difficult[1]. [1] The Nurture Assumption - Judith Harris. -
In my personal experience (have no scientific data on this) it is absolutely the opposite. Children of chaotic families tend to want more than anyone else to want to have kids and be good parents. They want to have the functional family that they did not have growing up. My childhood and teenage years was terrible my score in the ACE test is seven. All friends and lovers I had that ever opened up to me (with two exceptions only) and told me about their traumatic experiences with family, always said that when it was their time to be parents they would wish to do x, y and z different. From a genetic standpoint the man that has twenty children by twenty different women is an extremely successful individual who will assure he keeps on living throughout the next generation. It is an "r" strategy that he has reason to feel pride of. Remember, it is not because all or almost all of us in this forum are "K"s that the population as a whole values being "K" as well.
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Just finished listening to the podcast in its entirety. It is interesting and I would suggest to try to remain more focused in the next one so you spend your time more wisely. One thing that I could not help but to notice, is that much of the symbolism that you talked about can be seen in Tarot. Like death being the end of a cycle, the beginning of a new chapter in life and so on and so forth. Making clear that there is no evidence for, nor do I believe that Tarot has any magical/mystical power per se, still, like keeping a journal, it can aid in the journey of self-knowledge in my humble opinion, and I do have a rational explanation of how and why if anyone is interested.
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To be fairly honest with you my friend, our generation (you mentioned being 29 if I understood it correctly), Millennials (those born between 1984 and 1999), is relatively "inexperienced" sexually. The orgies of the Baby Boomers and early Generation Xers are over, and actually Millennials are twice as likely to be virgins than Generation Xers (those born between 1965-1983) when they were the same age, also 15 percent of Millennials claimed to be virgins until 25 vs 6 percent of Generation Xers[1]. While I do not fall in this category, I did have very few sexual partners for a man my age compared to previous generations (three so far). I can relate a lot to you. I suffered myself an immense amount of bullying and also had acne problems, not the obesity though. This is kind of an important question though, please answer it truthfully: why were your acne problems not treated as a teenager? While physical appearance for men does not have the same impact it has for women, it is still one of the four factors that attract women to men (money, physical beauty, intelligence, popularity and to untie is height.) By this question I mean, did your family did not care about your woes? If they did not, your life was even harder than you just described as you lacked a supportive family. There are many effective acne treatments, I used roacutane and after slightly over one year I had zero acne. It seems to me that you do not have much to worry about, as you seem to be very intelligent and to have a good paying job, which already means you score high in at least two of the most important things that women look for in men. How attractive would you rate yourself in a scale of 0 to 10? How popular are you? What is your height? As long as you are at least average in your appearance, you are already a very good match for serious women. You did not make any mistake whatsoever in focusing in your career instead of dating in the first 30 years of your life. In this regard, men and women have opposite lives: women have 30 years of their prime beauty to try to attract a reliable man to settle down with and it goes down-hill from there. The first part of a woman's life is the easy part: beauty is a genetic thing mostly and the socio-economical aspect a distant second although still important (dentists, skin care, clothes, etc). If a woman just goes sleeping around and does not secure a reliable man and/or does not invest in a career, this pretty much spells doom for her in the rest of her life. Men are totally the opposite, our first 30 years are the harder ones: when we have to secure a career, get our own house, car and reputation straight. While beauty is mostly innate, women being born already valuable, men must fight for those things mentioned to have value. So, a man's life gets easier after 30, women actually start chasing men of value and not the other way around. Now your numbered questions, in Roman characters: I- Be totally honest if it comes down to them asking, just do not go out volunteering the information if they do not seen to care much about it. Let me give you the profiles of the two types of women you should look for, those are coming from logic, reading and personal experience: A- Inexperienced younger women. While it is normal for men to marry younger women, it is my opinion that the age difference can become a huge problem when it reaches certain gaps, as the age groups will have different dispositions, desires, life experiences and goals. My recommendation would be for you to put an age limit of eight years, and even that is already stretching perhaps too much, but assuming you are 29, put a cut off age of 21, do not look at anything younger than that and if possible narrow it to 23 and up. If you date a 21-24 year old who is virgin or had at most one sexual partner that was in a long-term relationship, they will probably be religious and/or Conservative, which means that they do not value sex too much, at least for now. Especially if they are virgin, they will probably be relieved to know or suspect that you have no sexual experience yourself. They are probably worried it might hurt, might want to wait until engagement/or marriage or if they had sex with only one partner before, in some ways it might be better for you. Aim for those for marriage. Allow me to explain. When I was 16 I had a 19 year old virgin girlfriend. I had sex once before and it was not a good experience at 14, that I regretted, so I was pretty much virgin too. When I was 18 and she was 21 we had sex the first time. The relationship was great while it lasted and I have no reason to believe that she cheated on me or anything, nevertheless, after the break up, she started sleeping around like crazy. Long story short about her: she was somewhat Conservative and her family was very Conservative and wanted her to marry virgin. We had sex before marriage, her parents found out and made her brake up with me, however, the "damage" was done, she was no longer scared of that and then showed up her true face. People show their true nature when they are allowed to freely express themselves, she had a slut tendency that was kept in check and when the check was not strong enough she showed her true self. For example, if you have a woman that has the tendency for cheating, but she was born in Saudi Arabia, the threat of being stoned to death for adultery may be strong enough to keep her from cheating -- if you move this same exact woman to Canada, she will probably cheat, because there is no more threat to her life as a consequence. So if you find a young woman in the age group 21-24, so in the prime of her beauty, that had one sexual partner before and still maintain sexual restraint, I would say that she has proven to be truly moral and is not going to cheat on you or complain about your performance. Reason being that she is not scared anymore that it might hurt or that God or her parents will punish her for not marrying virgin -- in other words, she is that way because she is that way, not because she is scared into being that way. B- Experienced older woman. If you just want to get yourself some experience without getting too much attached for now, it would probably be your best bet, just please, please, for the love of God, do not get romantically involved. Assuming again your age to be 29, in this category I would put women from 30-40. There is a positive and negative side here, so proceed with caution. Some older women like the idea of "initiating" a younger man. Especially if they are childless, it is in a somewhat sick form their way of behaving as mothers: they are teaching you something. Since they are over 30, they are lowering their standards, and believe it or not, many men in their late 30s and early 40s already start having problems with getting their penises erect and women hate that, preferring younger and more energetic men to have fun. Just be careful, as you are inexperienced, to not go home with a Lola (hopefully you will get the reference). While they are easy and will have some patience with you, their patience will disappear fast. They are getting desperate to have children or at the very least to find a bread winner, they know their clock is ticking and after just a little bit of sex-dating they will want to get serious with you and stop having patience with your inexperience, so again, please brother, do not fall in love with them and run after two or three nights of sleep with them. Some background here, I was a young lad at 19 years of age, almost 20, had had sex with only two women in my life, met this 29 almost 30 years old woman and she was not virtuous at all, made herself sexually available literally day one and I was the one who delayed it. I was a fool with an enormous white knight complex, we got engaged, we had sex and it was exactly as I said, patient and amused, acting as a "mom" at first. Patience ran out extremely soon, week one of being married and she was already very resentful and wanting me to find a good job immediately and get her pregnant soon. She was 30, I was 20. Got a job and treated it very seriously, but it was not good enough for her. The marriage was absolutely miserable with her lack of patience and extreme anger issues, divorced at 22 and her at 32. II- You do not need to tell the religious and/or Conservative women that you find their beliefs to be infantile, irrational or anything like that. If you show respect for their faith while stating that yourself is not religious, most of them will be fine with that. Will give you again a personal example: I believe in God, but I am not religious. What I usually say is that I am culturally Catholic as I was born in a majority Catholic country and went to a Catholic school. I say (honestly) that I did not receive any religious education from my family, pretty much never been to a church and feel that this is kind of a hole in my personality. This makes the religious one try to give you counseling and get their hopes up that they might make you a believer. Just please do not say those things if you are not at least open to the idea of one day going to church with them. Women tend not to be very ideological, that being the case with the Alternative Right or New Left. Problem with the Alternative Right is that women that show up are already committed and, if they are not, they have every single men in the room hitting on them. That gives more than ever all the power to them. Got two dates with this incredible woman I met in an Alternative Right conference and she shows no interest what so ever in contacting me again, probably some other guy she met in the conference showed up to be better than me. Am I mad? Not at all! She is young, she is beautiful, she is intelligent and virtuous, she can have better looking men, richer men, more popular men and I am only average height, so I cannot complain that she probably wants better for herself. My suggestion is to keep living your life and going to events that you enjoy, not caring about the odds, love will find you, you seem to have very good prospects in this regard. III- Older experienced women are easy to get, will be open to you and will build your confidence up. Just please, do not get romantically involved and run away from single mothers. Watch out for "Lolas" as you are probably very naive and not good in spotting those things as you lack experience. Best of luck and keep us informed! [1] http://time.com/4435058/millennials-virgins-sex/
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Want to be my new best friend? Jokes aside, have you played Hearts of Iron III? If yes, what do you think about it. Victoria II is probably my favourite Grand Strategy Game of all time, I just put some Stefan Molyneux or Millennial Woes video in the background and play it. 590 hours so far, almost 25 days straight, Steam says.
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How do you get someone interested in SK?
Rventurelli replied to Thus_Spake_the_Nightspirit's topic in Self Knowledge
Well, in my opinion there is a big elephant in the room that nobody seems to be thinking about, much less talking about. You said your husband is already 50 years old. Most people do not seen to realize that, but even though men can get a woman pregnant pretty much until they are six feet under (Mick Jagger became a father again past year), their sperms do deteriorate and that increases the chances of giving birth to children with all sorts of mental problems. Around 80 percent of the gene mutations that we have around our lives that is passed down to our children come from the father and not from the mother[1]. Even if that was not the case, he definitively will not have the energy to raise children that he would have, let us say, 20 years ago. And he obviously knows it and that is probably the reason why he complains that you delaying having children was/is ruining the marriage. From what you describe about your husband, and by his age, I think it is pretty much impossible that you will get him to want to pursue self-knowledge. Reasons being not only that the older you are the more difficult it is to change, but also that he probably lacks respect for you: you are much younger than him (12 years!), and you are denying him something that might as well be his ultimate goal in life (having kids.) Most people, especially accomplished ones (you mentioned he has a good paying job that can sustain you and kids) have a really hard time taking into consideration what younger people have to say. They look down on you and ask, even if only mentally, "what the hell have you accomplished?", "You have not seen half of what I have seen in life!", "Didn't your mamma told you that when older people talk you should listen?" And I really cannot condemn that attitude, I am 23 years old, if some 11 year old child came to try to offer me life advice I would probably tell him to fade away. The 11 year old did not have to work, to drive, to deal with love relationships, knows nothing about the stress of everyday life and so own and so forth. At the same time, again, he is 50 years old, my life dream is to have a loving and functional family, and it might be his as well, have you ever though about it? Again, I am 23 years old and sometimes I get extremely sad and hopeless thinking that it will be impossible for me to have a family, imagine a 50 year old man who is married! Please try to see things by his perspective and, if possible talk to him about it in an indirect way, then slowly and gently getting to the core issue. Ask him what are his biggest goals, what does he really want in life and so on and so forth. You will see that he will probably open up if he sees genuine curiosity on your part. P.S: I was in a similar situation to you, I was 20 married with a 30 year old woman and whenever I would try to talk about self-knowledge with her she would get very angry, usually screen at me and sometimes slap and/or strangle me. [1] https://www.amren.com/features/2015/10/new-prospects-for-eugenics/ -
I- As Nietzsche would say: what does not kill me makes me stronger. Pain, conflict, adversity and challenges are what make us change, move forward evolve as human beings instead of just being content with how things are and therefore stagnant. II- The debate can aid two people who are honestly looking for the truth to find it, but of course, there is no guarantee that this will actually happen. III- Agreed 102 percent with a two percent margin of error.
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I would say that good is what is virtuous. For me the most important virtues are honesty, courage and the devotion to the truth (which one could say is just following those two previously mentioned.)