RyanBaxter Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Hey, I'm new to Freedomain Radio's forums, but I've been watching Molyneux for the past 6-8 months and really like how educated on the economy and distrustful of the government he is. I can't say that I'm an anarcho-capitalist, or even a minarchist- paleolibertarian or libertarian conservative are probably the best titles to fit with my views. Anyway, my question is who would you select in the 2016 election? Even though I'm not from America, I have a vested interest in the election, and Rand Paul is definitely my first choice. His 13 hour speech against the PATRIOT Act removed any doubts I had about him and I know a lot of libertarians don't think he's as good as Ron, because of things like gay marriage (which I think is a lose-lose debate), changing from decreases to increases in the military budget, changing his opinion on whether to give foreign aid to Israel and all the other reasons that Adam Kokesh has talked about, but I think it's extremely hard to be 100% right on every issue, and that speedy decisions have to be made and conformist decisions ultimately have to be made if you want to align yourself with the Republican Party. I agree with him on most things and he is easily the best candidate in my eyes. If Gary Johnson or Jesse Ventura decides to run for the Libertarian Party- I might consider it, but I usually prefer Republicans to the Libertarian Party because I'm heavily pro-life and believe abortion should always be the last resort to any pregnancy (thus, I loved how Molyneux cleared up in the 'Planned Parenthood' video that he was vehemently against abortion whilst maintaining all the other libertarian things like foreign aid, welfare state, imperialism etc. which I agree with, whilst Johnson and even John Stossel who I watch and like a lot, are pro-death). Ben Carson and Marco Rubio are probably my second and third preferences, whilst my least favorite is a tie between Shillary Clinton and socialist Bernie Sanders. On the one hand, I think Hillary is a neocon in disguise, whilst in the meantime having a NARAL Pro-Choice score of 100% and a National Right to Life score of 0% like Sanders (which I think is nothing short of disgraceful) and supporting things like things like the PATRIOT Act and the Iraq War, but at least she's semi-socialist, semi-capitalist. On the other hand, Sanders stand against all of America's values and wants a statist government that takes from the rich and gives to the welfare state. He has more in common with the Soviet Union, then the United States of America. However, he is against the PATRIOT Act and Iraq War, so it's a 50-50 amount of hate. Anyway, I'd be interested to hear what everyone else thinks. Ryan
shirgall Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 For most folks here it's generally a cast of the least of 26 evils, and "none of the above" is a frontrunner. These days I go to the polls to vote on initiatives, if at all.
McBeer Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 I would be curious to see what a Rand Paul presidency would look like. He will most likely be out of the race before he makes it to the Michigan primary, so voting for him won't be an option for me. When I ask around, the average person hasn't even heard of Rand Paul.
DCLugi Posted October 2, 2015 Posted October 2, 2015 I've voted many times for humanity to end this whole leader dependency crisis. 1
John Sambrook Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 Not voting - not giving my sanction to a system with which I disagree.
Susana Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 The republican and democratic candidates are all friends, they send their children to the same small schools, live in the same neighborhoods and even party and vacation together. Vote for the puppet on the right? or the left? O wait, the same guy is holding both puppets!!!! - George Carlin The last president was like an abusive relationship.... now that thats over, cant we get a break and be single as a country?! Why do we have to jump into a new relationship? -Kat Williams Politrickery, Why bother voting in machines that don't count when you can be a peaceful parent and figure out your own life instead!? 2
Carl Green Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 How long did it take you to write all that for nothing? (j/k, vote for nobody)
LancierDombre Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 My faith in the political process died with the Ron Paul presidential campaign. I might rouse myself to cast of vote for something or other if there is something interesting or relevant going on at the state or local level. I live in Massachussetts, which is too late in the primary season to make much of a difference and is guaranteed to go blue in the general election. There's usually a ballot inititive or two that are of interest but for the most part it's an exercise in futility.
J-William Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Never voted. Never will. We all want to vote for you!!! I actually voted for a libertarian candidate back in 2004, it made no difference :-)
shirgall Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 I actually voted for a libertarian candidate back in 2004, it made no difference :-) I ran for office as a libertarian in 1998, got 15% of the vote, and it made no difference :-)
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