john cena Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 "Levoy Finicum was Shot and murdered in Cold blood today in Burns Oregon today by the FBI and State Law enforcement. He had his hands up and was shot 3 Times."Bundy FB sayshttps://www.facebook.com/bundyranch [LIVE] Breaking Burns Oregon: Reports of Shots Fired - Casualties and Hospital Lockdown 2
regevdl Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 all lives matter. let's see those other protestors who complain about police brutality stand up against this cold blood murder. I saw this on the Yahoo homepage and literally gasped and had a sick sinking feeling. 2
Jaeger Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 I'm really shaken up by this. Challice, One of the daughters of LaVoy, is friends with my wife. We attend church together so this has hit a little to close to home for me. When I get a chance to learn more directly from the family, I will let you all know. This is what I have gleamed so far which isn't much. - LaVoy had his hands up. - The family is not surprised he got out of the car. They believe his intentions was to work things out rationally. I really wished I had more. I will when I can.
utopian Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Ya know as I watch the video, I can't help but think how different things would be if Levoy was a black man. I can't imagine white people grouping up and screaming to burn this bitch down over this. Someone should get in touch with #blacklivesmatter and show them the video. They should make it a point that its not just white cops that murder people, its cops period.
TheAuger Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 There are a few things that seem quite strange to me about the video. 1. The vehicle swerved to miss the road block/spike strips; just before the vehicle comes to a stop, one of the law enforcement officers jumps out in front of the vehicle...(?!) 2. Finnicum is out of the vehicle literally a second and a half after the vehicle comes to a stop. He was reportedly the driver. 3. Finnicum does advance towards the LEOs, with arms nearly level with his shoulders -- he doesn't charge, but neither were his hands "up". 4. He does reach towards his pockets; allegedly he had a pistol on his person. 5. Take a look at his right hand at 9:30-31 -- he spins back towards the vehicle -- has he drawn this pistol?
Jaeger Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 There are a few things that seem quite strange to me about the video. 1. The vehicle swerved to miss the road block/spike strips; just before the vehicle comes to a stop, one of the law enforcement officers jumps out in front of the vehicle...(?!) I saw that too. Did that officer get buried? 2. Finnicum is out of the vehicle literally a second and a half after the vehicle comes to a stop. He was reportedly the driver. 3. Finnicum does advance towards the LEOs, with arms nearly level with his shoulders -- he doesn't charge, but neither were his hands "up". 4. He does reach towards his pockets; allegedly he had a pistol on his person. 5. Take a look at his right hand at 9:30-31 -- he spins back towards the vehicle -- has he drawn this pistol? I agree LeVoy had his hand down when he was shot. I couldn't really see what he was grabbing for. It is safe to assume that he was armed. They did start shooting at the vehicle at about 9:53 lasting until around 10:47, I counted about 9 shots but was hard to see with the helicopter circling behind the trees. I couldn't see any provocation from the vehicle to justify that shooting. This is just a very sad situation and I wished cooler heads could have prevailed.
shirgall Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Image stabilized version (obvious content warning): https://gfycat.com/SourFaroffArawana
TheAuger Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Good find, Shirgall. It almost looks like he draws his 9 mil and then tries to put it back into his pocket as he spins back around towards the vehicle. All speculative, of course. I admire the Bundys' courage, the victory at their ranch, but Malheur is a giant fucking mistake; all gains from the Bundy Ranch showdown have now been eclipsed. When you have occupiers complaining on camera about dildos and giant vats of lube that had been sent to Malheur, or when you have 400 pound men in sumo diapers challenging Chris Christie to a wrestling match, you know your movement has been infiltrated to make the gun culture look bad and further justify executive action on guns. I was in radio host Pete Sarelli's youtube livestream this morning. If you're not already familiar, he was one of the arrested 8, though I don't believe he was in the vehicle at the time of the incident. He had been broadcasting his show from Malheur for a few weeks. There is some evidence that he's some sort of FBI informant. If you've never heard his show before, his schtick is literally just bashing his rivals in the movement and accusing everyone else of "being Feds". Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter accusations. That's it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. The followers in his chatroom are all literally 75 IQ -- they think this occupation couldn't have gone any better and they're just days away from a violent revolution that will overthrow the Federal government of the US...LaVoy is an innocent martyr in their eyes, even though LaVoy had made some statements about going out in a blaze of glory and had written an entire book on the theme. Can we really call it a tragedy if LaVoy got what he wanted?
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