Aaron727

Is there a way to put time stamps for the different callers on the call in show like on youtube?

I don't know a single religious person somehow I forget that problem hasn't been solved :s I would have to pick statists their disease seems more rampant.

I would suggest talking to a therapist about your insecurity with your sexuality. It sounds like this is a really intense thing your dealing with.

You were right when you said this wasn't productive.

I have been talking about the ownership of the fetus the whole time if your read my previous posts. A fetus has the potential to be a self aware human, an std is never going to be self aware. Do you think that is an important distinction? I don't understand how you can compare the two. The women has sole voice over her body until she chose to have sex and get pregnant, now there is another life involved. If the women has serious risk of dying during the pregnancy that is a whole different matter and I agree she should abort. You say men should pick better partners so this doesn't happen. agreed. Shit happens people make mistakes(including women). Why does the woman get to kill a human life because she made a mistake? You keep saying men should pick better partners but How about women? Women get to fuck all the men they want and then kill the future child because she made a mistake and the child is inconvenient to the woman. For the sake of argument If a woman wanted to murder my future child I would hope society would ostracize her. I'm not saying strap the women down and make them give birth but there needs to be some consequences. "You don't get to say that forcing people to do something is wrong, except when it bails you out of a mistake that you made" This is exactly want a woman is doing when she aborts without the fathers consent. The mother is killing a human or potential human life because she made a mistake. Is that not crazy fucked up to you?

Alright sorry. I don't understand the distinction. We both agree we own the effects of our actions. I don't understand why a man has no ownership over the fetus. If I understand the position, you're saying the woman has strain over her body because of the fetus and that means the man has no ownership. I don't understand how that follows. Why does the strain of pregnancy counter the ownership of the mans actions?

If we own the effects of our actions the fetus is the fathers as well, that's why he has a say in whats happening in her body(only matters involving the fetus). If you truly believe a woman has a positive obligation to the child the moment she chose to engage in a behavior that has the expected outcome of creating that child, she must have the obligation not to abort the fetus without the fathers consent because it is their future child.

Regardless of the fact that the baby is growing in the women the fetus is half the fathers. She does not solely "own" the fetus. You're saying the woman has 100% say in decisions involving the fetus but the man has 50% responsibility after the child is born. You don't understand that's illogical? If the woman has 50% say in decisions involving the fetus then the man is 50% responsible for the child after birth . If the woman has 100% say in decisions involving the fetus then the man has no responsibility to the child after birth. That is what it means to be consistent. "He created a positive obligation to the child the moment he chose to engage in a behavior that has the expected outcome of creating that child." This is another example of a double standard. To be consistent you must apply this to women as well. If you do apply your quote to women it is a great argument for why a woman should not be able to abort without the fathers consent. I Also want to add that I agree vetting your co-parent before risking co-parenting is crucial. Prevention is much better than dealing with it after the fact. Still my alarm bells go off when you start making excuses for women and then apply different standards to the genders. It takes two people to get pregnant. Its possible the woman should of thought of having to carry a child for 9 months before she had unprotected sex.

My point was that its a double standard if Its 50 50 then the women should not be able to take action and abort without the fathers consent . If the woman has 100% say then fine but he shouldn't be held responsible. "He created a positive obligation to the child the moment he chose to engage in a behavior that has the expected outcome of creating that child." We must apply that to women as well so surely she cant abort without the fathers consent "This is a very serious topic and people need to approach it as such no matter how inconvenient of frustrating in the moment it might be." I totally agree

I agree a responsible man should not have sex with a woman who would have an abortion if he is against abortion. The woman and the man or both 50% responsible for the pregnancy so if two Irresponsible people get pregnant I don't understand how the woman can take action and kill the baby without the fathers consent. I get that the woman is the one who had to carry the child and its her body but if the child is 50% his why does she get to take action? On the flip side say a father wants the child aborted but the woman says no i want the baby now that father has to pay for the child for the rest of his life. If the decision to keep or not keep the baby is 100% the woman's then why is the father held responsible for the child?

yes I understand the analogy. I agree its bullshit

I have some questions, why on earth do you care if your picture is taken with red headed Muslims from Yemen? What do they represent to you? Do you live in some country where you will be assassinated if your caught posing with Muslims? How do red headed Muslims affect your life? Is your distaste for posing with redheaded Muslims based on anything objective? ​I think you can insert any racist scenario and answer those questions and you will understand if your racism is rational.

In regards to question 1 an egg or sperm cell by itself will never become self aware. It is only when the egg is fertilized by the sperm that human life is possible. Does that make sense? I agree in a free society abortion wouldn't be as big of a problem. If kids have a stable upbringing they most likely wont go around making huge life mistakes like an unwanted pregnancy. Prevention is the best medicine. in regards to question 2 The idea of forcing a woman to keep a baby makes me feel really uncomfortable as well. Although I do think the father should have 50% say if his baby(or future baby) is killed. All that being said having an abortion because someone made a "mistake" is appalling and irresponsible when there are many willing people that would adopt that child. Not sure I have anything to add about the rape scenario.

I agree. I don't like the idea of robbing someone of a potential life. Obliviously its morally wrong to kill a newborn baby even though they aren't really self aware because they have the potential to be self aware, I view abortion in the same way. Any line that someone would draw seems arbitrary, Its ok to abort at x number of months but not at y number of months doesn't make sense to me. I don't know if abortion is immoral but it seems like a pretty selfish thing to do.

Some great info http://youtu.be/Jk7EpAWQiF4?t=11m42s

Sikth Is the most underrated progressive metal bands in the world. Their lyrics focus a lot on self knowledge. Awesome guitar as well.

I think your point about mtv is a great one. Tons of kids were watching and those dysfunctional songs were popular with other people for a reason. I never watched music videos when I was a kid but I would listen to the radio a lot, which is probably why I like 70's music so much. I think your right about it being a trend in the 90's,I'm just wondering If it had been a trend in music for a very long time. I could be totally wrong as I only listen to a few bands from the 90's and maybe the trend was bigger during that time. I have no clue about the bands from the 80's but here is a small list of some songs from my library that were made in the 70's mother-pink floyd the logical song- supertamp hide in your shell-supertramp I Don't Wanna Be A Soldier Mama-lennon Repetition- David bowie Cat's In The Cradle - Harry Chapin House of the rising sun- the animals The Sounds of Silence-Simon and Garfunkel(I always thought of my family when I hear this song but im not sure if thats how it was meant) PS. From the moment I could talk I was ordered to listen! Cat stevens was so cool back then

For as long humans have been around they have been abusing their kids. Almost all the music I listen to is from the 60's and 70's and themes like anger towards parents and family dysfunction are very prevalent. A simple answer could be that It wasn't that those themes were so popular in the 90's but they were popular to you because of your history. You could of been been drawn to the dysfunctional music that just happened to becoming out at the time you were young. I know this sounds obvious but I just thought I would point it out. David Bowie - Big Brother/Chant of the ever circling skeletal family was favorite song when I was 16. He is talking about the state but it applies to the family as well. Don't talk of dust and roses Or should we powder our noses?Don't live for last year's capers Give me steel, give me steel, give me pulsars unreal He'll build a glass asylum With just a hint of mayhem He'll build a better whirlpool We'll be living from sin, then we can really begin Please saviour, saviour, show us Hear me, I'm graphically yours [CHORUS] Someone to claim us, someone to follow Someone to shame us, some brave Apollo Someone to fool us, someone like you We want you Big Brother, Big Brother I know you think you're awful square But you made everyone and you've been every where Lord, I'd take an overdose if you knew what's going down [CHORUS (3 times)] We want you Big Brother Something kind of hit me todayI looked at you and wondered if you saw things my way People will hold us to blame It hit me today, it hit me today We're taking it hard all the time Why don't we pass it by? Just reply, you've changed your mind We're fighting with the eyes of the blind Taking it hard, taking it hard Yet now We feel that we are papers, choking on you nightly They tell me "Son, we want you, be elusive, but don't walk far" For we're breaking in the new boys, deceive your next of kin For you're dancing where the dogs decay, defecating ecstasy You're just an ally of the leecher Locator for the virgin King, but I love you in your fuck-me pumps And your nimble dress that trails Oh, dress yourself, my urchin one, for I hear them on the rails Because of all we've seen, because of all we've said We are the dead One thing kind of touched me today I looked at you and counted all the times we had laid Pressing our love through the night Knowing it's right, knowing it's right Now I'm hoping some one will care Living on the breath of a hope to be shared Trusting on the sons of our love That someone will care, someone will care But now We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell And the streets are full of press men Bent on getting hung and buried And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt Who sucks you while you're sleeping It's the theater of financiers Count them, fifty 'round a table White and dressed to kill Oh caress yourself, my juicy For my hands have all but withered Oh dress yourself my urchin one, for I hear them on the stairs Because of all we've seen, because of all we've said We are the dead We are the dead We are the dead

corny video but great lyrics

This was very powerful. A tear came to my eye when I saw it. Really great work!

His son grew up to make this.

I have had two teachers tell me this "Aaron, only two things in life are certain death and taxes"

Fat girls make great friends. June 9th 2014 edit: I'm sorry for being insensitive.

I'm not sure If i'm doing a really bad job explaining myself or people are just ignoring what I'm writing. When I say addicts i'm talking about people who are not interested in stopping their drug use. I don't think using any drugs in everyday life is a healthy choice. I just want to say thanks to Wesley for his input on the topic. Your insight is appreciated. I hope at least a few people have seen this topic from another perspective.