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Hmm...men set the pace, women set the boundaries is an interesting way to look at it. I don't know if there's anything empirical about that but it sure as hell does sound valid. Men propose and women dispose as Stef says, and because of that it's up for men to set the pace in the flirtacious dance as mentioned above. I haven't even thought about the retraction part being my own way of setting the boundary that "yeah you can touch me, but right now it doesn't warrant that because I don't want to become close with you, at least not that kind of close." That's interesting to note because there have been instances where it was actually almost conscious that I retract when I knew I wasn't attracted to a particular woman. I would love to say that usually if I know that I am, that's when I actively initiate the touches, but that's kind of the problem I'm still running into. Being afraid to touch beyond the shoulder and go to somewhere more intimate LIKE HER KNICKERS, just kidding lol, but like a woman's hand for instance. I have talked to her about our friendship and what it means to us, and we've been pretty clear with our intentions, explicitly and implicitly. Like she will talk about awkward run ins with other guys she hangs out with who thought she was leading them on, and I notice that a part of me wants to be all like "haha suckers," but ever since I delved into self knowledge and the IFS method, I've had a more conscious part of me look at it more objectively. This more objective part of me listens to the clues she's setting about how she doesn't like being misinterpreted as flirty when she's just being friendly or vulnerable. Simply by opening up about her feelings and her life for instance is not an invitation for romantic intimacy, and I have to admit that in the past, I always mistook that kind of openness FOR romantic intimacy even though there hasn't been prior romantic build up. Knowing that difference now and picking up on that clue, I'm better now at respecting her boundary with that. Although we open up to each other about our childhoods, that's not an invitation to romance, but an invitation for serious empathy with a trusted equal who has delved into self knowledge. Likewise, I've expressed my own distastes for women who lack integrity and how they also have to be held under the same level of moral responsibility and all that good stuff. As for what she gathers from all that, I'm not sure and I can't know since that's up to her to interpret. All I know is, I'm glad to have a bestfriend who IS a female, for she understands the brevity of emotional vulnerability more than any of my guy friends who I can sometimes have conversations as deep as stuff about our relationship views and childhood revelations. As for your last paragraph, I feel like I want to agree, yet disagree and think it has to be universalized. Shouldn't the women be the same way to have their own independance? Like, shouldn't BOTH parties have bigger things to live for than each other, and that having each other is a byprodct of brimming with so much self love that they will have to want to share that love with another human being? I dunno, just my approach on the gender equality angle and each party being self actualized.
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I worked at a DEBT COLLECTING agency call center and that was hell. Coaxing people to talk to agents about their money problems, who I imagine would be dysfunctional people BECAUSE they've racked debt in the first place. Not to say that all people in debt are dysfunctional, but due to the amounts I saw on the database, it was kinda messed up to see. Anyways, yeah you don't want to keep this job. If you really need the money right now I would say try to look for a new job at the same time while keeping that one. It's a good challenge to yoru social anxiety because you ARE cold calling people, try to enjoy the challenge while you can, but know that in the long run it won't do you any good. For me, I was relieved when I was fired because I couldn't reach the daily quota of 400 calls. Or not even talking LOUD enough which is also taxing to the mind and body, especially when you're repeating the same answering machine message to people who don't pick up. And imagine what it does to your self esteem when you cold call someone, and clearly that person doesn't want to be bothered especially by a call center agent. NO ONE wants to be a telemarketer, it's one of the worst jobs out there. Ask a kid what they want to be when they grow up, 99.9% of them will never ever say they want to be someone who makes annoying unwarranted calls to people's houses during the day. Anyways for your own sake, nevermind your social anxiety and ADHD, call centers are just NOT the place to be working at. Definitely find another job and get out as soon as possible because it's gonna be very fatiguing for you to have to put up with people who will outright just yell at you for simply calling them. Granted there are times where I've had nice and peaceful chats with some debtors and maybe thats why I never reached my quota. I got so bored and lonely from negative calls that when someone was actually nice I enjoyed the small talk. But those instances were too far and between to hold onto, I preferred having an overall positive experience of interactions like when I used to do sales at retail stores. Hope this helps.
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I'm sure you guys are highly aware of Russell Peters, who does a good job at tearing down the wall of racism and prejiduce between cultures with his comedy. If you're not, have you been living under a rock? I enjoy his comedy routine as he was the first comic whose name I actually wanted to know and get more of his material. I find the stand up comic medium interesting as it is usually a one person monologue with great thoughts to express and is actually funnier IF those thoughts are anywhere near worth the mic they speak them into. Anyways, getting off topic, but for those of you who are familiar with Russell's routine, thankfully he has retired this joke because his dad died, and hopefully for moral reasons, but he used to have this act in his routine where he makes fun of how abusive his father was towards him and his brother. I won't go into detail about it here, but basically it's about how his father used to say "somebody gonna get a hurt real bad," before a beating, and when Russell learned from his friends that there are child protective services, he started using the threat to call them if his dad were to touch him. The punchline, sorry for ruining it is his dad saying "it takes 20 minutes for them to come here, so in that time somebody gonna get a hurt real bad." What I wanted to know if people can still find that kind of comedy funny despite of what we all know about the effects of child abuse now, or is it repulsive. To me I can STILL see why it's funny and how clever it is, but a part of me just turns away from it and knows how it does a huge disservice to child abusive victims and gives more power to the abusers. I ask this because yesterday I was watching a Donald Glover routine and he said how his family used to run a daycare center, so I thought he would have an innate respect for children. He didn't express any ill intent or admit to any enacting of abuse towards those children, just called them little Hitler's for being irrational angry little beings. The whole time I was thinking "but kids are only as bad as the parents who raise them." I still enjoyed the rest of his routine of course, but parts like that bothered me a little bit. Your thoughts?
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Connection is the best control so why nag?
MysterionMuffles replied to LovePrevails's topic in Peaceful Parenting
wow a very informative Stef clip that is under 3 minutes. Thanks for the clipping man! I think I should share for the parents on Facebook. -
Wesley: My goal? I don't know...just to let them know I'm starting to learn cause and effect. When my sister and I used to fight a lot, I would get hit for hitting a girl, but there would be no sit downs and conflict resolution conversations. This incident is the reason why I think I turned out to be violent...aside from the spankings with a belt I received from my father, the idea of being the one who inflicts the pain and enjoying it...well it came from this incident. I don't really know what I want to accomplish but it has been troubling me having recalled this memory. I want to guilt trip my mom for doing this, or at least a part of me does. Ironically that part of me an infection from her personality that is fixated on guilting people into better behaviour. How can I bring this up to have a positive end goal if possib;e? chiwoojo: how do you even RTR something like this? Do I just say "I feel like I was taught to enjoy inflicting pain on others?" or is that a conclusion? RTR is starting to confuse me now. It's easy to weed out dysfunctional and poison people having used RTR, but I don't even know what a proper RTR converastion is supposed to look like.
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Can An Only Child Have A Sibling in the IFS?
MysterionMuffles replied to Melesina's topic in Self Knowledge
I'm still new to IFS so I'm making wild assertions here. First of all of course I am sorry for your loss of almost having had a real sibling. That must be heartbreaking for both of you equally. I think it's quite possible that your inner-brother is what you want him to be. Creating the kind of advice contrary to your own that he would have given you, as a way to console the harsh reality of his non-existence even though he would've been younger than you, or maybe even a girl. Stephen, when you have the time, I'd like to read your rational behind having adapted a daughter part within yourself and why she exists. -
Yeah and any woman who wouldn't want to high five about mutual agreements...is not worth flirting with
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Ah I see. The Murder Porn episode from last night was great as well! Seriously, if they keep this up with the social commentary and bold writing, this might be the best season. I don't know if they improved from the previous seasons or it's just philosophy in mind while watching, but I am really digging South Park right now. For those who haven't seen it, the adults in South Park are addicted to watching crime dramas that usually involve marital murder, and the children worry about their parents being influenced to kill each other. So in turn, they try to control what their parents get to watch on TV. The kids in a way become the parents in that respect, and I just think it was a very interesting dynamic to observe. It's definitely worth the watch and I wonder if Stef has ever watched a really good South Park episode that closely resembles anarchy principles and all the other philosophical principles we learn about here. For those who HAVE seen the episode:
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Infant ear piercing (need advice ASAP)
MysterionMuffles replied to annadios's topic in Peaceful Parenting
Couldnt have put it better my self, Anna, thank you. The way I see it is that it may have been better if it was her choice as a kid from the age of 4+ to decide if she wanted her body mutilated for the sake of aesthetic enhcancements. Enhancements so menial that YES...why not get clip ons? Same crap without the bloody mess and risk of infection.- 18 replies
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Seeing Enemies in the Company of Mutual Friends
MysterionMuffles replied to MysterionMuffles's topic in Miscellaneous
To be clear it was an open invitation event via Facebook. They're not at all close as friends. She only knows him because of me when I was friends with him still. I voiced my concerns with her and she told me that she doubts he'll come since FB event attendance is usually inaccurate and its an event you have to pay for. So unless he really cares to try vegan meals for a price in the company of strangers while he's suffering a break up, I hope that doubt is validated. There's still a chance he may come regardless of those factors but I dunno. She's already putting him off from letting her be his shoulder to cry on. Is it immoral or aesthetically negative of me to hope he really learns how to suffer, be alone and in turn learn to introspect. Cause Ill tell you right now if I was still his friend, Id be the first he would confide in, but Ive stripped him of that privelage.- 6 replies
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Anti-Spanking Arguments That Seem Weak
MysterionMuffles replied to Think Free's topic in Peaceful Parenting
I'm interested in how someone will attempt to refute this without asking you about your own childhood lol. It seems like a place to start but Im up for the challenge. Maybe when I get on a computer later I'll see if I can try to understand some of your points. -
What is beauty? Can beauty be objective?
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That's a really good question. It is also harder to answer it with culture involved. Just a few decades ago, women were encouraged to include yeast in their diets to GAIN weight because, much like Marilyn Monroe's era, thick women were valued because it meant they could ensure healthy births. Nowadays though, as you know, the value is on THIN women partly because of our over abundance of food and more particularly, processed food. Less and less homemade food is being made and in its place the quick and easy stuff. But anyways on the question of beauty being objective...I don't know if it ever can be something that is objective. Beauty can also be in the eye of the beholdee if that makes sense, as Dick Solomon says in 3rd Rock From the Sun. Perhaps choosing not to define beauty, all things are beautiful in the end? For instance, Sarah Jessica Parker would be classified as a horse face by many a shallow men, but even she's beautiful to some degree wouldn't you agree? Yeah that's a long stretch...even I don't agree lol. I dunno it's a tough question to answer. Only due to my current lack of insight on the matter, I would strongly believe that physical beauty is still subjective unless you take the approach of simply not choosing standards for what constitutes beauty. -
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ribuck: I guess that's one way of going about it. My fear is just that he'll come up to talk to me and either act abrasive like has always been or super nice. I think super nice would piss me off more because I'd be wondering where was this genuine interest in me when we were friends? There was a time where he was kicked out of his house for a couple of weeks and I let him stay at mine, fed him and all that. During that time he respected me, but all of a sudden when he got back on his feet, he gradually became an asshole again. Niceness was only a value when it was beneficial to his own agenda. But yeah, again thanks...I'll just try to sit as far away as possible from him and talk with the other guests more. Cheryl: Yeah she knows. In fact him and her exboyfriend were close friends, so she used to see a lot of this friend of mine. She's always been questionable about his behaviour and character. She has stated to me that she finds him abrasive and unenlightened. Just recently, he broke up with his girlfriend, and even though he hasn't talked to my friend for almost or over a year, all of a sudden he's been opening up to her about how he feels. It puts her in a weird situation because his exgirlfriend was always jealous of her when they used to double date (back when they both had their respective partners). She wants to be there for him because it seems like she's all he has right now for someone to open up to, but she even said that she wants to put a distance on it since she has her own problems to deal with. Furthermore he has never contacted her and all of a sudden he is just for someone to be vulnerable with. I then warned her that he had always wanted to have sex with her since they first met, and I felt a little slimy about that. It's true to some degree, but I wish I didn't mention that because all of his personal disparities are enough for a self knoweldgable person like her to already KNOW to keep some distance from him. Well thanks for your advice Cheryl, I will talk to her about him being there and to seat us as far as possible if he does come. Again, my problem lies in being approached by him and resisting the urge to go up to him and unload about how much better my life is without him now lol. How CAN I act if he comes up to me? I'm having this self serving mindset where if he wants a dialogue it has to be all about how I've been and what I've been up to, and never once asking about his life because it would be the complete opposite of how our friendship was.- 6 replies
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Later this month I will be attending one of my best friend's dinner party, where she will be serving us a storm of new recipes she's been coming up with. There I will get the chance to meet her other friends and feast on delicious vegan meals. However, as much as I look forward to this being a fun and enjoyable time, an old enemy of mine might also attend. An old enemy who I used to consider my best friend. I have been dead set on going to this event since she invited me, but I'm feeling absolute ambivelance on how to deal with this former best friend being there. He was a good friend of mine for more than a decade, but we've always had some tension between us throughout our friendship. Without getting too much into detail about my history with him (which I will provide in spoilers below if you'd really like to know WHY I feel ambivelance towards him), I just want to say that he became an exploitive and psychologically daunting person to be around as the years went by--until ultimately, late last year I started avoiding contact with him, ignoring his calls and text, and then finally earlier this year I made it clear that I no longer wanted to be friends anymore. How am I supposed to go to this event, still have a good time, and possibly interact with this guy if he approaches me? I don't want to initiate any contact and act as if he's just another stranger at the party I may not get around talking to. I can feel my social anxiety coming already, remembering how he used to humiliate me around other people...I just don't want him to pull the same crap again around strangers. Not that their opinions of me matter, but out of principle that I've grown tired of his destructive ways. What can I do? Do I actively avoid all eye contact and ignore him when he tries to talk to me? Do I act all friendly and pretend to care about what he's been up to? Or, and I feel really uncomfortable about this but...do I ask my current best friend to uninvite him? I find that very manipulative, and although I may be happy with the outcome, I will be robbing her of another guest and him of a possible good time he might have. Now, as to why I hate this guy if you want my most recent history with him...
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Thank you for reply Wesley. Yes, I'm still disturbed from recalling this event. I don't know how I can even begin to bring it up to my mom or aunt. I just want to let them know that I still remember that moment and how horribly it has affected me. Also to assure them that I've recognized it for what it was and that I've been trying to process it so that I don't have to attune to such destructive behaviour.
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Infant ear piercing (need advice ASAP)
MysterionMuffles replied to annadios's topic in Peaceful Parenting
I was gonna come here and share what happened with my niece when she was about 6-10 months old, I really can't remember. Her parents wanted her to get an ear piercing early because she won't remember it...but...I dunno. The very fact that it's just an aesthetic preference for her parents' convenience gives me some pause. It's not the very same as getting innoculations is it? And isn't it the parents job to minimize the amount of pain their child will have to feel? I dunno, what do you guys think of the argument that "this way the kid won't remember it because it was done to them very early."- 18 replies
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Oh please share with me as much as you can. I want to know if you came up with your own way of doing it so I can learn of ways to have honest conversations.
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The Art of Deciphering Facial Expressions
MysterionMuffles replied to Panoptic's topic in Self Knowledge
I've noticed that in real life and in movies, subtle facial cues that say so much more than words. Really scary stuff. I want to watch this whole video sometime.- 3 replies
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Being Erica: Time Travelling Therapy
MysterionMuffles replied to MysterionMuffles's topic in Reviews & Recommendations
I am greatly enthused that so many of you have gotten into this show. It's a diamond in the rough! I finished the entire series a couple months ago and I still feel its lessons ringing true with me to this day. I think I want to turn it into an annual series to watch since it's so short, each time showing it someone who hasn't yet lol.- 16 replies
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First of all, don't feel guilty for mentioning any of this. Not that it is encouraged you open up about every dark aspect of your life or anything like that, but it is certainly welcome and we're here to help if we can. You seem very sincere in your post and don't seem very judgemental towards your daughter. That's a very good thing and I hope you can be consistent with that if you choose to talk to her about this. *sigh* I have to admit that I'm guilty of enjoying some webcam models and what they've done, but lately I've been learning to empathize with it would have to take for a woman's self esteem to derive value from simply showing off her physical assets for attentions and money... I still want to just thank you first for being brave, open and caring about this as it puts things into perspective for me. You're showing me what it's like to be on the other side of the webcam as a parent of someone who's doing this...so that's really shaking my shit up nicely and helping me to stop enabling the exploitation of these women. Anyways, it sounds like you have an otherwise good relationship with your daughter aside from her vocational habits. That list you have there is what i think you should simply talk to her about. But try not to make her feel embarassed or judged about it. Try to RTR with her (Real Time Relationship, I think you're new to the idea but I'll try to sum it up for you) and tell her how you feel. The most important things for you to mention and I think is all you need to really focus on in that list are the points you started with "I feel" and maybe the other concerns can be welcomed into the conversation if your daughter welcomes the honesty to begin with. As for what to say I don't know...the only thing I can help with is how you approach it: with humility and genuine concern. Let her know how you feel about this and that you know. Let her know that you knowing about it shouldn't have to change everything between you, but you are feeling concerned. And of course try not to tell her what to do with her life as it might be a temptation (but I dont know you too well so I don't know if you'll get that urge). Focus on your feelings about it and ask her why she thinks she does it. Become simply curious as to how she stumbled upon that gig and how she truly feels about doing it. Hell she LIVES with her boyfriend, what does he feel about it and does HE know? Is he even the one who put her up to it who knows? Just be curious and understanding and Im sorry if I'm making it sound simplistic, but I know that it's not. In theory sounds easy but once you get into the conversation, expect a lot of discomfort from both of you. But that discomfort is healthy and only temporary, and just might be what will save the both of you ongoing discomfort having that gorilla in the room. OH and the RTR summary: it's basically a form of communication where you relate in real time by expressing you emotions as they come. You tell the other person how you feel about them and their actions without making them feel responsible for making you feel that way. For instance you can say, "I feel like I failed you as a mother if you're willing to be a webcam model. I'm not saying that being one is bad and that you're bad for doing so, but this is just how I feel. I feel guilty for avoiding this issue with you for so long, but it has been on my mind a lot. I feel sad that our relationship is going downhill and I'm not saying it's your fault or mine, but I feel a huge decline if we can't be honest with each other. That you can't be honest with me with what you do for work and that I can't be honest with you enough to let you know that I know what you really do...until now." Someone else may be better than me in this matter to see if I missed anything, but I truly feel like voicing those points that start with "I'm worried that--" will cause her to want to do it more. You know how people are when confronted with resistance right? So just be open and vulnerable like the above paragraph, and hell I'm sure you'll be able to say and pull off better things that I suggest, but I think I've provided a good starting point.
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OMG I was going to make a post about this too lol. What does nsfw mean? Anyways I REALLY loved how they highlighted correlation between State and Religion. When Cartman tells the whole school that the government may be watching what they're doing, it leaves Butters feeling paranoid as if a supreme being akin to God is judging his every move. So he starts PRAYING to the government as such and even visitting the DMV as if its a church confession booth. My mind was just blown. This is a really strong start for this season, I hope the writing is this good for the rest of it. I also liked the social commentary on how social media is like an automatic thought police similar to 1984, except it's our voluntary choice to expose most of our thoughts on the world wide web. GREAT episode, worth watching even if you're not a South Park fan. If you honestly think South park is just a bunch of lame fart and dick jokes, you are dead wrong. It gets cerebral when it wants to.
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That would be a food topic especially since Tarantino said he haaaates violence during an interview with George Stromboloupolous. As if lol maybe he meant he hates real life violence so he has to exaggerate it in his films to become desensatized. Ill pull up a link for that interview later if youd like. Im pistibg with my phone which makes that impossible right now
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Yeah I have a lot of ambivelance about this game. It's philosophical merits (hang on here lol) include satire on American culture, and politics. It has a lot of anti-State undertones with its story line and some of the cartoons you can watch on the TV's laying around in the game. However of course, there is the blatant concern of sexuality especially in this version of the game where you can go to strip clubs. There's a mini game where if you want to take a stripper home to have sex with, you have to flirt with her and touch her body during a private lap dance, but you have to touch her when the bouncer isn't looking, otherwise you get thrown out of the joint. There are plenty articles on the web concerning over this, and I can see what effects it can have on impressionable young boys who will be encouraged to grope women "when no one's looking." FURTHERMORE, although the writing is actually pretty good in terms of the storyline (not great, but good for a video game's standards of being able to empathize with the 3 main criminals you get to play as) they made all the women in the game act very annoying and one dimensional. They're just cheating, feminazi psychos who exploit themselves sexually or simply there to talk crap to the men in the game. Though some other owners of this game right here at FDR have argued that you should just not take it seriously, and I agree. The entire game is built around immorality from being able to run over civilians in cars you can easily steal to the elaborate bank heists you can perform--but I just don't feel negatively affected by it. I can tell that this is just a game and there ARE things I can do in the game that I just wouldn't in real life. ie. Drive recklessly, beat up random pedestrians and take their money, and I most definitely would not be spending my time at a strip club. So okay in the game, I played the stripper mini-game about three times just to see what happens if you succeed at taking them home. Nothing happens. You just take her to her apartment, they show an outside view of the apartment while there's a time lapse animation of day turning to night without so much of sounds of two people having sex like in previous games. There is no real pay off in playing that mini-game and since I've just stayed away from the strip club. It's an empty rewardless aspect of the game that is alright I guess to have, ya know...if you like to get off pixelated boobies, but you don't realy miss out on much if you don't play it. There's plenty of more fun things to do around the vast cities. However, in real life, two men who I'm no longer friends with (for many reasons I won't get into here) once took me to a strip club and I just felt completely uncomfortable. I was not at all willing to spend any money to get a private dance, and the girls who were dancing at the stage varied in attractiveness. But despite of how hot or not they were, I just felt...really sad for them. Is there really such thing as a woman with healthy self esteem who just so happens to choose to strip? I dunno, but anyways, that night at the strip club I just felt completely out of my element. I couldn't wait to leave beacuse the entire energy of the place wreaked of sleaze, just the way the entire place was set up with the dim lighting and flashy lights. And the women who would come to our table to flirt...ah anyways My point is, I don't think there's anything wrong in indulging in video game playing as long as you know how to detach reality from fiction. I can spend hours on this game driving recklessly, running reds, breaking traffic lights, crashing into other cars and running people over--and then step outside and drive safely in my real life car, almost to textbook precision. Sorry for the long ramble, but if I can sum it up, I think the more self knowledge you have, the more naturally you can resist the possible negative influences of playing such a violent and immoral seeming game. If Stef happens to see this thread and DOES a podcast on this, I'd look forward to it. Hell he should even bring back the Let's Play series he tried out with Unreal Tournament LOL. Like he should play the game and have by the minute philosophical discussion as to how wrong the game is... But in the end. It's just a game. Some would even argue that it helps relieve stress and that it's a safe place to unleash you inner demons without hurting any real people. A lot of hard working nerds put about 5 years into developing this huge sandbox world with much to do, not to mention writing a solid script (again for video game standards) and i don't think it's particularly a bad thing to play the game as long as you're aware of how it's all just SATIRE!!! Not to be taken seriously or as any moral compass.
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I have two adverse memories from my childhood that I feel are connected, but seem to also be missing a link in between...I really hope that there was nothing else in between them that may have caused my mom to teach me how to hurt my aunt, for if there wasn't, I may just have uncovered my own trauma and what it has cost me. One afternoon when I was about 3 or 4, my aunt was carrying me in her arms and she was singing a really sad sounding song in Filipino. I don't remember much of what happened that day, but that isolated moment, I vividly remember crying into her shoulder because I felt moved by the song. I can't even surmise if it was the same day, a few days later or any longer amount of time afterwards, but I remember being mad at my aunt. I want to guess it was because she caused me to cry, and when I told my mom about it, she devised a little plan to help me exact my revenge on my aunt for having created a negative emotion in me from her blasted singing. This is where it doesn't add up...I highly doubt as a kid that I would get mad at her for making me cry from a touching song. I'm pretty sure I would have just let it pass and knew that she didn't hurt me in any way to make me cry, almost as if those tears were a good thing because it helped me understand my own emotional faculties. Either way, this is where it gets messed up. Again I WANT to guess that afternoon was the cause of this happening...I want to guess that I simply told my mom of this incident, and although I'm unsure of the details and what my initial intentions were, I'm almost certain that my mom put me up to such destructive behaviour. Basically my mom shamed my aunt for having caused me to cry and actually encouraged me to hurt her back and make HER cry for having made ME cry. We were in my aunt's room, she was laying in bed and I ran up to her and started digging my fingernails into her hands through the blanket. The blanket in which she used to cover her face with as she cried out in agony. A part of me knew that as a kid I'm pretty sure my tiny hands had no effect on her really and that deep down inside...I also knew my mom and my aunt were in on this little charade. However, I suppose it was my false self that lead me to believe that I had obtained retribution. By hurting another who simply made me cry throug means that weren't otherwise hurtful, I fear that my mom has really twisted the way I think. That being moved by a song and crying was a bad thing, that feeling my emotions were bad. And that I had to hurt someone to feel better about my self as opposed to being told that that was simply the beauty of music. I don't know...I'm just really confused. I really hope me simply telling my mom that my aunt made me cry from singing was the reason why she made me hurt her for revenge...I just remember something changing in my brain that day. That it felt good to give her pain even though I knew deep down inside they were in on the whole gag. I would have preferred if my mother...instead of towering over me and pseudo shaming my aunt for having caused me a perceivably "negative" emotion such as sadness without even direct abuse--I really wish she just got down on one knee to my eye level and explained to me: "you're a sensitive little boy. It was beautiful that you were able to cry from the song. If it upset you maybe you're aunt can apologize to you. What's that? It was okay, just weird to experience? What made you really cry? Was it really the song? Did you understand the lyrics and that's why it made you sad, was it the way it was sung, or both of them put together? Or have you been sad about something else and the song just brought those emotions out?" You know...instead of being encouraged to inflict pain on my aunt as to shame her for making me feel such a way.
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Philip, credit should be given where it's due. I won't tell you whether or not God is real if you still believe in him, but that's unimportant. YOU prevented yourself from committing suicide because a part of you valued your life. It had nothing to do with intervention by a cosmic unseen force.