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I have an interesting (and lighter) debate question...
jacbot replied to Matt H's topic in Philosophy
Yeah , the same argument was used for not paying your electricity bill, since the electrons you get from the +pole are given back to the -pole, so why pay? -
This is fucked up http://gothamist.com/2014/08/03/two_more_babies_infected_with_herpe.php It's been almost two years since the Board of Health unanimously approved a circumcision consent form that requires parents to sign a waiver before their infant can undergo the "metzitzah b’peh" ritual—the circumcision practice in which a mohel sucks the blood from a freshly snipped foreskin. Despite that, many mohels (and Orthodox Jewish families) are still refusing to comply with the law—and as a result two more babies are believed to have been infected with herpes by mohels this year, bringing the total number of babies infected since the policy went into effect to five. According to the Daily News, the city has identified the mohel in the first case, and found he did not have a consent form. The family of the baby infected in the second case refuses to cooperate with authorities. "There is an unwillingness on the community’s part to buy into the regulation," said lawyer Akiva Shapiro, who defended the policy when Orthodox groups filed a federal lawsuit claiming the law was infringement on religious practice. "The city doesn't have the resources to be at every (circumcision), so if the mohel is against the form because he objects on religious grounds, the parents aren't signing the form." Part of the problem is that Mayor de Blasio waxed and waned on whether he'd support the law when he was campaigning for mayor. To summarize his stances on it throughout the campaign: first he was in favor of the forms, except he doesn't like how Bloomberg introduced them ("I think the mayor approached this the wrong way"), and then he wanted to get rid of them and start over, but in the end, he quietly kept them in place just the same. Except members of the Orthodox community already thought he agreed with them that the forms were an unnecessary intrusion. Before the policy was enacted, there had been 11 cases of herpes infection in Jewish newborns in NYC confirmed as a result of the ritual since 2000, according to the Department of Health. Last year, Israeli doctors studying the herpes infection said they believed it may be the cause of noticeably higher number of learning disabled children in Hasidic communities. Not that that will change some people's minds: "There are much more people slipping on a banana peel," Rabbi Avrohom Cohn, 86, chairman of the American Board of Ritual Circumcision and staunch snip-n-suck advocate, told the News. "We should outlaw banana peels."
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The morality of human shields and dealing with hostile borders
jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
1) Seriously.... you posted the video on a topic geared about Hamas and Israel and your argument is who pulled the wire and NOT that this is falsely representated as Hamas? >>You made a false claim the children were not combatants, they were used as such. rectification accepted. 2)the point is that your 2nd video is not Hamas, >> There is no "point", When you raised the issue , i immediatly verified this israeli blog site owner because i like facts instead of siding with sick islamist, he has 10-12 videos on Hamas (child rape following the islamic tradition of "Aisha", public executions, what have you)... and I posted CORRECTION : "they got their terrorist groups mixed up". 3) I hear a lot of people say, 'they allowed this, they voted for them, etc'. 100% correct for assigning responsibility to voters! 4) it's like saying the jews voted for hitler and alllowed him to carry out atrocities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933 #facts,..,In the last free multiparty election on 5 march 1933, only 33% of the Germans voted for Adolf,.., this menas 67% of the germans DIDNT VOTE FOR HITLER! a majority of the germans never voted for hitler in free elections especially not the jews. Just to head you off at the pass, I know you gonna try some revisionist excuse like the as the election of 12 November 1933, But at this time Germany was a single party dictatorship! single party dictatorships are not democrazies (pun intended). 5) Hamas was not as radicalized back then. You live in some alternative universe where Hamas didnt immediatly executed and lynched the PLO right after the election victory? Whats your excuse? Hamas was suffering from "sudden jihad syndrome" and execution of PLO members never planned ?- 131 replies
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Objected to Jury Duty, but why am I terrified?
jacbot replied to hannahbanana's topic in Self Knowledge
is normal reaction. The judge has his/her finger on the button controlling all the men with guns! Any sane person would be "worried". -
NAP: Is the initiation of Force Limited to Physical Force?
jacbot replied to Tree Frog's topic in Philosophy
If i steal a chair (example) you made then i stole the time you invested in making this chair. Maybe i was cunning as to not use a weapon, but you are still agressed against as something was taken from you. same as having sex with someone who is in a coma,.. no force was used, but it is certainly not NAP -
The morality of human shields and dealing with hostile borders
jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
I posted a correction,.., as i am interested in facts instead of stupid ego games. Hamas loses popularity among Palestinians (since they receive brunt of blowback). Didnt Obama recently give 400 million to Hamas? I think it seemed fair since Israel receives 3 billion in aid. Anyway. Yep,, pain resulting from bad decisions tends to make people think! I dont think there is room for any good alternative in any election if the 2 major players in an election are PLO and HAMAS. Its like choosing between Stalin and Hitler. (paraphrasing). How you can twist this around to be Israels fault is funny... Why excuse arabs for making a stupid decision in an election and not holding them to the same standards of accountability as jews? Because they are ....non-white? You see this alot with liberals...regarding colored people as subhuman not able to be held accountable at the same moral-standards with regard to choices they make. It would be nice if the moral standard metric was the same for both cases... not seeing much of it here though. posted a video of a man shooting a mortar in front of kids, claiming it was in Gaza and that is false so you must prove that your other video is indeed in Gaza Why are you being dishonest? 1) The man didnt shoot the morter 2) the kids pulled the wire firing the granade. 3) I posted 2 videos, and posted a rebuttel for the second one as it seemed to be another terrorist group (not HAMAS). 4)the one with the girl shooting an AK47 in streetcombat must be factual since you try your best to avoid mentioning it.- 131 replies
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The morality of human shields and dealing with hostile borders
jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
I dont see how making shit up about IDL or siding with HAMAS suiciders is helpfull. The person (making the claim ONE of the vid is invalid) wich is i think total bullshit claim, is the same one making shit up on how bad IDF is because kids cant get acces to (literal quote)"toys","books", (seriously) during a warzone! I dont think the jewish libertarian site i got the links from is dishonest. So trying to move beyond "yes I am right"/"no you are wrong" statement is helpfull,..,but i guess you need to play silly attempts at shaming tactics. If you have telepathic ability about what is factual and what is not, please give me something usefull, like tomorrows oil price. Added: I got back from site owner ...,It seems they confused one muslim terrorist group with another. Can happen!- 131 replies
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The morality of human shields and dealing with hostile borders
jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
"Videos" is plural, maybe read more carefully? A claim was made that one of the 2 videos was about Serya.., the person making the claim doesnt speak Arabic but somehow she is speaking the truth? thats weird, as an extra curtisy I am having an arabic speaking person look at the video. "...Are you searching for the truth or simply trying to confirm a bias?..." wot? Complaining about palistinians having lack of toys during a war is not abnormally irrational? I dont know who is suffering from bias, but it is not me. HAMAS are good honerable people because Israeli are using heavy handed tactics...and we all know crazy religeous wackos would never do things like human shielding , using children as selfsuicide devices, and what not. riiight? I dont think CGI was employed to make these vidoes.- 131 replies
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http://www.reasonwhy.es/actualidad/audiovisual/sexo-y-violencia-en-el-spot-censurado-del-parlamento-danes-para-las-europeas Completely hilarious.
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Yeah, it was created with DARPA funding so was IC's so big deal. IC's are used for a lot of good things (als war of course). Google do a lot of great stuff too. if it werent for youtube, stefbot wouldnt have the audience he has today, so not all bad.
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/27/opinion/sunday/high-time-marijuana-legalization.html?_r=0
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The morality of human shields and dealing with hostile borders
jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
Ah good,.., it seems jihadist will only use kids when the US is funding them,,,,,.anyway,,,. i will check source as the translation purely states "kids as human shields" ... i agree "kids as combatants" would be more accurate in this case. Israel Is WAYYYYYYY over using the 'human shield' excuse wot? The video showing a 9 year old (orso) kid sent out in the street with a K47 while the adult hids behind a corner is .....mmm not a human shield? or also also not HAMAS? (embedded in the video)? More than 80% of Palestinians oppose Hamas and oppose violence resistance against Israel. 80% is double majority and HAMAS won the election so this 80% is highly unlikely, you have a link of the source? Israel has banned school supplies, books, toys, etc to enter Gaza through Israel, s Excuse me, my brain doesnt register this as even remotely rational. 1)Warzone=> first priority is food 2)existing books and toys just evaporated when the 1st bombs fell? 3)books and toys are a priority in a war?- 131 replies
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I dont know where you live but since what he did was illegal most probably you might file violence charges and get shelter help. What do women do in your country when they are abused by their husbands (example) what kind of facilities are available to them? I see you are 22, so if he lays a hand on you, thats not spanking thats assault.
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Any advice for a soon to be homeless lady?
jacbot replied to CallMeViolet's topic in General Messages
In my country there is red-cross assisted living for homeless.,..also free showers etc...its pretty good. Lot of citizen initiatives for some reason. Concentrate on finding a job that can pay some rent (room share maybe). Maybe you can find a friend you can crash or something or live in a car and go to the gym early for showers. (oh wait i see the last option was already discussed). -
still skeptical of Bitcoin
jacbot replied to Gaku's topic in Libertarianism, Anarchism and Economics
yeahh, i see this on Al-jazeera alot, discussions about forced marriages "rape" and volentary partner choice....on a biological mechanical level its all sex, this it fact. The one is based on free cooperation (volentary partner choice, choosing bitcoin) the other is based on coorcion. -
Housing Market in France in ‘Meltdown’ After Rent Caps
jacbot replied to Alan C.'s topic in Current Events
LOL, your a funny guy. What? U.K. and Germany are recovering? when did this happen , lol! -
The morality of human shields and dealing with hostile borders
jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
I didt miss anything , the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name, if you wanted to be intellectually consistant you could have said "Hamas is as much a terrorist organisation like the state of Israel" .But thats not what you said... Anyway i will leave it at that as you seem to have explained your possision in subsequent posts. mmmmmmmm my youtube seems to work, maybe you should reinstall the flash plugin.? iphone-HD-movie-selfies of 8 year olds sent in the streets to use kalashnikovs and fire mortergranades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqizsl1Vx-g- 131 replies
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A link between religion and violent parenting?
jacbot replied to mikl's topic in Atheism and Religion
Yes,.., this is accurate.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden Sweden was the first country in the world to outlaw corporal punishment of children by their parents (parents' right to spank their own children was first removed in 1966, and it was explicitly prohibited by law from July 1979).[90] Note: a religeous group sued the Swedish government in 1983 for the right to spank their kinds, this was struck down. -
Housing Market in France in ‘Meltdown’ After Rent Caps
jacbot replied to Alan C.'s topic in Current Events
French President Francois Hollande’s is an outright communist and leader of the socialist party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Hollande In the US political spectrum this means outright communist. -
The morality of human shields and dealing with hostile borders
jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
I am ancap,.., "legitamate government" means as much to me as "pink fairytale unicorn dust". "..no matter how illegitimate or legitimate both might be seen" Ukraine has nothing to do with this and is strawman to this discussion. "..Hamas is not a "terrorist organisation" as it is so often referred to as to undermine its legitimacy and its right to protect the people.." Oh wait,..., now legitamcy does matter? contradiction! Hamas being a "legitamate government" obsolve Hamas from culbability in targetting civilians? It would be nice if you apply the same rule to the US government and the shear fact of being elected gives them the right do drone civilians or use depleted uranium or cause 500k death by embargo, I am sure you will use the same moral standard and call this all "righteous self defense of the American people".- 131 replies
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jacbot replied to mreyallior's topic in General Messages
Well terrorist organisations target civillians, why would Hamas, be different then say,, NRA, VietCong,..,Al Quada, ISIS... Che Geverra. I would not make the argument palestinians = Hamas... some would, but most will not. In my old country there was a poll made by a leftist-liberal newspaper (trouw.nl) and even after the beheading youtube videos, mass executions of ISIS were posted on youtube. 73% of Dutch muslims were sympethetic to ISIS cause. These are mostly 3rd generation muslim immigrants...., To put things into perspective 100-73 = 28% of muslim immigrants was NOT supportive of ISIS,..., I think its about the same order of magnatude as the percentage of Americans (34%) thinking Iraque invasion was injust. So I will tend to support the argument that most people are just tribal cliche monkeys who will march in lockstep and take orders of whoever (and this will be human shields, or suicide bombers, or cannon fodder in general) is viewed as having moral authority.- 131 replies
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