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implodewithmaiayan

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  1. Why do you assault your child?
  2. Andrew! You are so on spot! You read me like a book. How do you know this? Have you experience it yourself? Are you in isolation now? Wanna talk more? I'd love to.
  3. Hey. I'm going through a period of complete suffering due to social isolation. There is nobody... The suffering is immense
  4. Would anyone be willing to help me out while I look for work? I've recently cut ties with "my" entire "family". My parents have been the only source of income I've had so far in my life. This economic relationship is absolutely toxic and needs to come to an end. I would greatly appreciate some help until things have come together for me. If you're interested, then: My Bitcoin address: 1NCtqaArm8PgxTNPSAhZkJ8Lte2V8HyUh6
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  5. Hi! I'm in a quite tough place in life which at times feels like pure torture. The thing I appreciate the most are philosophical and productive conversations with people who want to help, or are on a similar path because of their past, or because of the discovery of self-knowledge. Would anyone like to have coversations together? Just write here, and we'll set something up on Skype or through text. Thanks! - Gus
  6. Hi! Would some people be willing to get on Skype and help me with some stuff that is really heavy on my soul that I really need someone to help with? Text is a nice way to spread information and knowledge, but I could use some good and helpful conversations. The main thing I'm dealing with is maintaining my true self in public. There are instances where I'm very "myself", but most often it's extremely hard to keep my real personality at all times wherever I am. I can go outside, lose my "true self" and thus, act in a manner that I would not if I'm myself, go home, recover, and then be really disappointed with the way I unsuccesfully stayed "myself" that day in public. This is very painful. I'm aware it's very important not to self-criticise, which I have successfully worked a lot on, which helps, so I can often go home after a not-so-good experience outside, be myself, and not feel bad about it, since I know that this is a LONG process for everybody, especially for me, considering the hell I come from. I feel it's EXTREMELY unconscious and psychological the way this so too often happens to me. It's almost as if I'm observing myself in the moment and confirming when I "lose my true self". "Ouch, it happened again. Oh well...". As if it's so beaten in to me that my body does this by default. So, I see myself when I cant, am aware of what's going on and what I do, let it happen when it happens, and am unable to sort of "snap out of it". Indeed very painful. I'd really like some help with this. Thanks!
  7. One very almost hilarious, but scary, "point" he makes is when he defines using something that was built or bought using tax/stolen money (which he doesn't think is theft) is itself theft. That is to skip the initial theft, which is the only theft in the equation, ignore it, put focus on the things or services "provided" as a result of the theft and call the act of using those things theft. I mean, how do you even explain this? I've never been so taken off guard by a statist in my life! The feeling I had was so weird. I was mentally gaping. I think I should've laid down at that point and just blocked him. So, he thinks by opening your door and going outside and taking a walk on the pavement, or taking the car for a ride is theft. This is some mind-bobbling stuff, to say at least, and I feel at this very moment that that part of my brain is starting to feel healthy and open again after this guy treading on it with his alien magic fallacies.
  8. Thanks, guys. Thanks for clearing up the details. Yes, I get it. The problem I was having was rather how this guy caught me off guard of being a statist with enough fallacies to make your head spin a bit. I actually felt as if I was having an aneurism talking to him, and I just wanted to be shed some clarity to recover from the "conversation". It was not possible to convince this guy, and his dominant, completely assholery way of "debating" created a polarizing, "defeated" feeling in me temporarily. While it would have felt better to more actively having tried to defeat him using deeper and more clear arguments, I didn't want to since I didn't feel I was in the right mind, nor could explain it at that point as eloquently and clearly as I would have liked to, so I withdrew. Not a negative thing to do, I think, but uncomfortable given the circumstances and how he treated me. Exactly, Daniel. That's what I had in mind as well. Patrick: Yes, of course. He's an idiot for saying that. I blocked this asshole statist's ass away. We're not friends or anything like that. I had him on my friendlist for advice on something specific. No way I would ever continue communication with an asshole as big as that. Thanks.
  9. Hi, guys! I had an interesting conversation/debate with a statist today. I'm not an experienced debater and didn't feel that I handled him the way I would have liked to do it. Later in the conversation, I asked him why government has a monopoly on roads to which he replied that they don't have a monopoly there, since toll roads exist. I'm not educated about this. Does the government have a monopoly on roads, or does the existence of toll roads mean it's not a monopoly? Please help me with this. I'm very confused after the immensly unfomfortable conversation with the statist. This is the main point I need help with, but I'd also like you to look through the conversation and see if you find any additional errors or mistakes on my part. It's just a small conversation and nothing special, but it was uncomfortable and I didn't have control and would like your help reobtaining that control and get some clarity. I'd like to post the entire conversation here and I'd like you to let me know what you think of it. I'm the blue text, and he's the grey: I'm interested in knowing what you thought was retarded about the post Well, first of all it's from a group stating tax is robbery...which means they have literally no understanding of economics or how government works. So that makes me first of all think the person running the page is dumb as rocks. Would you mind explaining what taxation is to me! ?* Please. Secondly, the statement "there is no such thing as a good cop" states a blanket idea, which is always plain stupid. It's like saying, "all black people are thieves" and should be approached with the same level of descent as that comment. Also stating that laws have been passed through unjustly or immorally is also stupid. Just because you think it is doesn't mean it is, it's a subjective point of view. Now, on to tax. Do you know why taxation was first started? All blacks are not subject to a framework of laws that have to be enforced if you're black, unlike what applies to police officers That's less important. Would you mind answering my initial question about what taxation is? I'd like to understand what you think it is and how it works Well, I'm an accountant, I deal with tax for a living. Right So, do you know why tax was first brought into use? Please, if you don't mind. Just answer the question Why something was done is less relevant when talking about what something is Explaining modern tax law and tax is very complicated, but going through it's means when it was simpler is the best way to teach it to a lay person. Ok then let me put it this way: do you have choice in whether you pay or don't pay taxes? Yes you do. Ok, tell me how Remove yourself from the infrastructure built on tax legislation and remove yourself from the monetary system paid for by taxation. Go live on the land effectively. Grow your own food, don't use public utilities, live without needing the tax paid parts of life. Do you believe you can do that? People did it for thousands of years, why not? You can not do that You will be put in prison for not paying taxes You could, but it would be stupid. Living in a taxed, stable, utilized environment is much better. After receiving letters or complains and extended fees and fines That's because it's effectively stealing. You are using public utilities and services and not paying for them. It's theft, of course you will go to jail. Are you saying that if someone coerces someone to give them money (which is robbery by definition), uses that money to build or buy something, and if the person who was stolen from uses the thing that was paid for or built with by stolen money, he is the wrong-doer? Of course not, that is a business contract, that happens all the time as a mutually beneficial arrangement. It is not a business contract since it's not mutual It is coercion Do you like having running water? What you proposed is not possible The government does not allow such activities You should research this fully Yes they do, it's very clear. I have, I do it for a living. You have no idea what you are on about man. I'm sorry, it's really dumb. People have something against taxes because they are greedy, they don't like that they are having money taken away from them and they can't grasp the reasoning around it. Taxation is coercion No it's not... I just told you how you can avoid it. Which was not possible But you want to live off of tax paid for utilities. So you don't want to do it. It is, stop and think about it. Ok, tell me why you can't do it? You're not allowed to own untaxed land I'm not saying you own the land. I'm saying you go into unowned land, which there is HEAPS of and go live off the land. You just don't want to do it, because it's too hard. Modern civilisation was built on taxation, it's what caused the creation of cities. Without taxation our civilisation is unmaintainable. As I said man, I do this for a living. I know about this shit. It is sad that you think that civilization is unmaintainable without the use of force No it's unmaintainable without the use of cooperation. Coercion is not cooperation IT'S NOT COERCION! It is the initiation of the use of force Stop saying it, it's dumb. Dude, you really need to do some proper learning on this... I'm a bit polarized by you at this point Ok now Because I know what I'm talking about and you keep saying outlandish things. You're saying the government builds and maintains infrastructure and utilities Did you ask for that? You work for the government, Joel. No, but I definitely want it. Otherwise if I thought the cons out weighed the pros I would leave. I work for a private firm actually. And how do they achieved this monopoly? If someone hasn't even asked for it and supported them by wanting and buying their product? By giving people a much better option in life than wiping their ass with a branch. lol No that's not what I'm asking How does the government achieve this monopoly in society since it's not the will of the people since you don't ask for it but it exists anyway? Yes it is, we have option A, stay in taxed civilisation and have a way of life maintained by it, or B, move away from it and live off the land. People did ask for it, that's how taxation started. This is what I was trying to explain to you to begin with. Taxation started as a village fund for paying for mutually beneficial development. Everyone would put money in voluntarily. It would pay for walls to stop attackers or pay for a well for water, etc. Of course people were then born into the arrangement, is it fair for them to say I don't want to pay but I want to keep taking advantage of all the stuff everyone else paid for. NO. So they could leave, or pay and stay. If a firm creates a product that people want and need, people ask for more of it by paying for it, IE, they're voting for more of the product with their money. How would you do that with roads? "Of course people were then born into the arrangement, is it fair for them to say I don't want to pay but I want to keep taking advantage of all the stuff everyone else paid for. NO. So they could leave, or pay and stay." You say some interesting things here Well, my first question would be: how come government has a monopoly on roads? They don't. :| Toll roads man, privately owned. But you have to pay a fee every time you use them. It's them taxing you for use of what they paid for, just like the government. If you can find a logical argument against it, I would like to hear it. But so far it's been wild accusation on uninformed opinion. Yes. Not just like the government Against what! Actually it is. taxation. You haven't given 1 logical point yet. So far it's been coercion, which it isn't and that's about it. Where as I have shown the origin of taxation showing the peoples demand for it. I have explained the establishment of infrastructure and maintenance of it. I've shown the options outside of taxation. You're argument has been, "no". Ok, so you're saying there's a demand for it. But you just stated you don't want to pay taxes You don't have a demand for it I do want to pay taxes, what are you on about? I never said I didn't. :| Tax is paying for half my education, tax is paying for the road I drive on, tax is paying for police so I don't get robbed every night. Oh man... *facepalm* Are you just trolling? I feel like people can't actually be this blind. I'm sorry you have this much trouble with this I'm sorry you can't comprehend reason and logic. Dude, you need to go and read something. This is horribly stupid. You haven't given a logical point or a logical retort this entire conversation. This debate can't continue because you think you can choose not to pay taxes I guess this is why I deal with tax for a living and you don't. You don't understand it. You're argument against it was that you can't do it...but you can. :| Okay I told you how. You haven't said why it can't be done. Can you provide some evidence for your claim? Yep Do so My ex girlfriend grew up in a non taxed commune. I'll bring up the info on them. Actually found a nice little video of an off the grid community. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hvVMQu43Y This is the sort of places people have created improve their life with the side effect of avoiding taxation. Tiny House Eco-Village / Mortgage Free, Self Sufficient, Off Grid Community!!! www.youtube.com Here is an article on another one. Utopia rising - theage.com.au www.theage.com.au There is a Wiki on them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecovillage Ecovillage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org Also, do you know what squatters law is? If not here you go. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting Squatting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org Now you have all the tools you need to leave civilisation and finally avoid that tax you so hate. hahaha Thanks for the pages Big tip, make sure you are able to produce something or are able to work in a way that is barterable for premium goods. Otherwise it will be difficult to secure the technical items required to not have a really shit life. Or now you have found out how to do it, you're not going to? :| And that's it. I'm not going to "do it", by the way, in case anyone's wondering about that. At the point where I said roads are a government monopoly and he responded that it's not, I basically didn't wanna continue anymore since I felt I would be reaching for whatever I could find to prove a point when it's practically a fact that it's completely meaningless to try to convince him anyway. But like I posted above, please fill me in about toll roads and whether the roads are a government monopoly. I undestand that you need to go through government regulation to build a private road and that you get taxed and that roads still are a government monopoly, but please provide me the arguments for this, since my brain is a bit fried at the moment by his extreme statist personality, so excuse my ignorance, but that's why I'm posting here! Thanks! - Gen
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